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I freely accept that the 80/20 split is in of itself not a bad thing (for a western atomised society), what's bad is the traits currently being selected for by women. Men, like all humans, respond to incentives, and what women are incentivising men to behave like to get short term casual sex (which men value higher than women, and it's men's value system that determines how they behave, not women's), is not a good thing. I'm not talking about the long term genetic impacts, that happens over too long time scales to really matter, I'm talking about short and medium term social impacts on society.
In fact the biggest issue with that split is that men are more violent when they have nothing to lose, so society needs to give them something to lose if they behave badly (this can be stuff as simple as skins in their favourite video game). Alternatively you change the societal gender ratio to be more like that of a beehive by gestating 4 female embryos in an artificial womb for every male birth. If women can do everything men can then workforce wise this shouldn't be a societal issue.
A brilliant troll for sure. But unfortunately most necessary work outside the household is done by men. To a rounding error, all dangerous work is done by men.
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What incentives are placed upon men to control women's behavior, short of using physical force? Without that, men neither have the obligation nor ability to incentivize them to do much of anything in the sexual realm, because women are the ones who make the choices on who to sleep with, not men.
Agree to disagree I suppose. I've observed nothing but the exact opposite of this my entire life. But then again, a man and a woman will hear this quoted statement in two completely different ways, which privileges only my side of the argument.
The only 'pain' a woman truly endures in a relationship is being with an undesirable man. I remember observing in PurplePillDebate on Reddit, a woman who said that if all men want sex, they might as well pick a man they're sexually attracted to, since an uglier man is no different on the inside, and he can't hold a woman's desire in his appearance; and that comment was catapulted to the high heavens by other women. Unbeknownst to them, it was the sweetest vindication of everything the Manosphere had promulgated. It's a view that says: don't worry about being physically and emotionally abusive to women. They'll look past and forgive every sin you commit against them, except for the sin of being unattractive. I.E., the content of your behavior truly doesn't matter to them. To one man, the man that would beat or slander or rape or otherwise abuse your sister in a relationship is a 'bad' man. To her, it's negotiable if he's attractive.
Women don't understand male sexuality. For all intents and purposes, 'all' men want sex. Those who don't can be written off as atypical outliers for one reason or another. A woman who wants a man that 'doesn't' want sex, effectively wants another girlfriend of hers. An accessory to her lifestyle. A therapist she can vent to. A workhorse to fund her expensive tastes. They can't respect male sexuality in it's own right and see it as a mutually beneficial exchange. A man that sexually desires a woman, desires 'her', specifically. It's not a proxy for satisfying some other need, because men have sex for one reason, and one reason only; and that's to get off. Women have sex for many different reasons, and different men serve different purposes in a woman's life. That's the task for men to understand, and to not let themselves get subordinated to a woman's interests.
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How? Jane says to John "John, you're so bad boy, come and fuck me". John declines and does not respond. Jane finds another bad boy to have sex with. Dynamic continues.
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