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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 14, 2024

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You are describing hardcore truthers though -- isn't it way easier to engage with people who say 'I can't be sure whether fraud had an impact (and therefore the results should stand) but it would be better for everyone if the system were such that it is possible to be sure that fraud can't have an impact'?

Who is objecting to that on the "2020 wasn't stolen" side? Put simply, if you open your argument with "I don't think 2020 was stolen, but here are cases where we need to tighten election security", I think you'd find earnest discussion in even the most pro-Biden/left-wing spaces.

I think you'd find earnest discussion in even the most pro-Biden/left-wing spaces.

I mean I don't really inhabit such spaces, so I'm open to updating -- but which left wing spaces are discussing tightening the eligibility/confirmation requirements for mailin ballots for example? All I'm hearing is "what do you mean, we should send them out to everyone (ed. instead of restricting them more) -- do you want to disenfranchize people or something?"

I meant that you'd find spaces open to the discussion. Yes, some might object on the old grounds of disenfranchising certain voter groups, but from what I can tell, there's a whole host of things being alleged as insecure/improper which don't have anything to do with letting people vote. You can always start there.

It's not representative of the left, but you can always try /r/Destiny. They have plenty of people who will argue seriously with you on the topic.

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