magic9mushroom
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As someone who had learned to play VNs a particular way, make choices, restart when I got a bad ending, the fact that the game took away that option and made you live with the consequences of a story beat was really effective meta storytelling, whether DDLC is a "real" VN or not.
Funny you should mention that...
It's summer time
Not here in Oz, it's not! I'll admit Victorian winter isn't that cold by Euro/US standards, but it's still wet and dark.
...Hmm.
So, I find slice-of-life comedy completely useless (LCD sense of humour =/= mine, probably aspie-related). What I was saying was too long about Kajitsu was the common route, which has a pretty-terrible word-count-to-plot ratio; I liked some of the heroine routes (mostly Sachi and Michiru; Amane and Makina routes should have been combined, and Yumiko route is bleh).
I'm fine with romantic dramas (the two VNs I've ever rated 10/10 are School Days and Totono, and Saya no Uta's 9/10), but Steins;Gate pulls the same "blow up your relationship or the world ends, lol" trick four times (in lieu of any kind of creative solution, because "convergence"), which is why I called it misery porn.
I got pissed off when I didn't manage to kill her the first time and then I got told "You cannot go further astray" when I tried to do it right the second time.
So IIRC I tracked down the save file, murdered it, killed her properly, got the deliberately-terrible reward, and quit.
Slay the Princess is fully voiced, at least as far as I played it (I got pissed off and quit, IIRC).
Um, I haven't played G-Senjou no Maou, but I've played the other two and I wouldn't describe them as "masterpieces". I'd describe them as "decent VNs with AAA production values" (well, Steins;Gate and Kajitsu; Meikyuu and Rakuen I'd describe as "AAA sequelitis").
(Kajitsu's way too long for its plot and a bit cookie-cutter; Steins;Gate has an interesting premise and then hamfistedly declares that 90% of the interestingness is arbitrarily denied by "convergence" and mostly does romantic misery porn instead. Chaos;Head's (a lot) less polished, but it delivers on much more of its premise than Steins;Gate.)
To suggest I might actually run my work through an AI and take its feedback seriously is to taint the work with AI, and for some that's as bad as if I just had an AI write the story.
I'd like to point out that my policy of "try to avoid all AI output because it's a potential memetic hazard" would indeed declare such a work to be tainted (though not as bad).
(With that said, I'd still only be particularly angry at you if you didn't tell me; I want all neural nets destroyed, but I'm in favour of co-ordinated meanness on that one.)
DDLC is the most influential VN made by western devs
It is the #1 most popular (as opposed to most liked) OELVN on VNDB, but only by a tiny margin over Katawa Shoujo. Admittedly, it's a biased sample insofar as non-weebs who read DDLC wouldn't tend to visit VNDB.
(For anyone reading this who's confused: Katawa Shoujo is not actually Japanese, despite the Japanese title. It was made by 4chan, and originally in English, though they did translate it into Japanese afterward.)
No, its claim to fame is that JAST took seven years to translate Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi and has a litigious policy regarding fantranslations, so the inferior DDLC hit the English gaming community first despite coming out four years later. (Admittedly, also that DDLC was free.)
(The time from when JAST C&Ded the fantranslation of Sumaga to releasing it is longer than the entire production cycle of Duke Nukem Forever. How much longer? Well, I dunno, because they still haven't yet, but I think we recently passed the 15-year mark.)
It reads as "removed by @FCfromSSC" to me, too, so I don't think it's a problem on @erwgv3g34's end.
I'd have given you a "good" on the volunteer page, except that there are edge cases you're ignoring (you still got a "neutral"). Most notably, this is false:
I can not brainwash someone else to kill for me, and I can not brainwash them to not kill either.
This is literally denying that cult brainwashing works. I think it is extremely clear from the available evidence that cults are capable of brainwashing people to kill - usually people who've joined the cult voluntarily, but frequently not people who'd have killed absent those techniques. This isn't really what we're discussing, but you're hyperbolising here.
I'd also like to point out that sure, to a large extent "stochastic terrorism" is just a dysphemism for slander/libel... which are still bad, including for the exact reason "stochastic terrorism" is noting (i.e. most people think Craster deserves to be murdered, so if people are misidentified as Craster they have a chance of being murdered - which is bad since they're not Craster - so it is bad to falsely declare someone to be Craster), and which there ought to be a norm against. Extending it out beyond there (and beyond outright incitement) gets ridiculous fast, sure.
Apologies for taking a while; I'm not at 100% these days. Victorian winter, and trying to sort out a likely major career change.
Maybe for some people gender dysphoria goes away, but for many it never does. "John 50" is a meme for a reason. I mean, the claim that it will go away eventually is unfalsifiable, but at some point you can be reasonably confident.
Yeah, I phrased that overly-strongly. The point was that the amount of non-desisters looks larger than it is because some just haven't desisted yet.
There probably are some true non-desisters. How many there are I don't know, because lol nobody's done the 40-year longitudinal RCT. Almost as important, I don't know if there's any way to tell them apart from the "haven't desisted yet but will" group. I mean, sure, post-Singularity you can have an AI do it, but post-Singularity you have Clarketech reversible transitions and nigh-infinite resources so the treatment is obviously "try it, see if it works, and go back if it doesn't, no harm done" and the point is moot.
I'm going to need you to clarify what exactly your condition was, because "phantom-limb gender dysphoria" doesn't mean anything.
As in, I had phantom limb of having a vagina and often was a girl in my dreams. I hated my penis and once wound a hair strand around it and yanked (this left a scar internally, such that for years when I had a mild erection that part would stay floppy with the overall impression being roughly that of a broken bone).
There's more I can give, but while my cued recall's excellent my free recall is lousy so you're going to have to ask a lot more precisely to dredge it all.
In any case, I can provide anecdotes of people "repping" (repressing) for over a decade until they gave in.
A lot of those people seem to be counting from when they started showing effeminacy or the reverse, due to the human tendency to pull things together into a coherent narrative. I obviously don't see this as a coherent narrative any more, just a degree of effeminacy (which is real and still there) plus a period of intense gender dysphoria (which had a much-later start date and had an end date, and was probably the result of psychological abuse). If I were to count from first signs of effeminacy to the point where I slowly realised I wasn't trans, which would be a better fit with how they're counting, it'd be probably around 17-20 years.
It's imperfect now, but it's going to improve as technology advances, and it's only going to improve if we keep doing it.
Well, no, a lot of the stuff we would need for proper transition is not related to surgical technique at all, but rather to success at lab-growing new organs, which doing current SRS will not help with. Obviously, lab-grown organs would be awesome for a whole lot of other things as well (infinite cloned organs for rejection-free non-donor-limited transplant, lol) so they're something we should be (and are?) working on anyway. Potential retroviral therapies to alter tissues in situ are also a completely-different technology to what we're using now. Current transition therapy is a bad kludge with many inherent limitations, not a step on the road to the proper version. Iron lungs were irrelevant to how we beat polio.
On the other hand:
Do you think there's some kind of fancy psychotherapy, or maybe medication of some kind, that could free more people of dysphoria, that is being slept on?
Well, maybe. Bit hard to find out when psychologists and doctors are too terrified of being cancelled for "conversion therapy" - cancellation with actual teeth, because of SJ's control of their licensing organisations! - to experiment with it, isn't it?
The 2a is not even a complete sentence and is ungrammatical punctuated.
It is a complete sentence (though the canonical version's first and third commas are wrong). The conjugated verb is "shall"; the first clause is a valid dependent clause, if in a style now highly unusual outside of formal documents.
I'll note that Decker did get investigated for that post, even if he seems to mostly have benefitted from it. And for all his hyperbole, the criterion of "revolt iff democracy abolished" is a popular one. Ken White (and thanks for being precise this time, as Clark Bianco was about median Mottizen before being kicked out) went a lot further.
This isn't the first time it's been noted.
BMI 25-30 is historically unusual.
For peasants, yes. For aristocrats, no, not really. (This probably has approximately everything to do with why people considered being fat to be beautiful.)
made worse in this case by the author trying to fit in a "just desserts" narrative.
"Just deserts" (same root as "deserve"). "Desserts" are food, and the article author thankfully did not suggest that people eat his ideological enemies.
elaborate theories of socialization to explain that actually, being fat is sexy and normal and it's just our modern society that's stigmatized fat.
Directionally correct. The doctors legit did screw up when drawing up the BMI chart originally; the minimum mortality weight range is BMI 25-30 (the heart issues are outweighed by your immune system running at full power), and I ate my way up into that range on medical advice. And 90s-00s beauty standards (after that it gets complicated because of these very people influencing SJ and more generally culture war values decoherence) do tend to fall below that range, while pre-1900 beauty standards did run pretty plump (as do mine, personally).
Emphasis on "directionally", though; 200kg women are not sexy or healthy, and the ones that refuse to take responsibility for other people's chairs they crush are pretty annoying.
I'm a bit confused regarding the mentions of involuntary commitment and involuntary medication, although this might possibly be because I can't follow your old.reddit links anymore (Reddit recently blocked old.reddit without a login, and I don't have a Reddit account). Would you mind explaining what you're referring to as the counterexample?
Damn, not only are words dangerous they can kill too?
You say this sarcastically, but there are contexts where yes, the full moral responsibility of murder attaches for words. Ordering a minion (or, I suppose, a machine that takes text/voice input) to kill is generally considered murder or something that amounts to it (absent the usual affirmative defences).
I don't think that calling Kirk a Nazi is one of those contexts - though one can argue whether it's culpable to a lesser degree, as e.g. slander/libel - but you're overreaching here.
There wasn't much "more please", although there's some nuance there because most of the fully-mindkilled ones were in full denial and claiming the murderer was a fascist (also, most people aren't risk-tolerant enough to endorse terrorism in public, though Destiny arguably was). There was a fair amount of celebration, though, including that newsroom whose backstage got caught cheering in a broadcast. I would count some of the jokes (though not all) as celebration (including e.g. this) - I mean, telling jokes is one of the main ways you celebrate in a text format where you can't organically cheer/clap/laugh/hug/fist-pump.
"Half" is an exaggeration, though, and I agree the actual Democratic Party leadership condemned the shooting.
I've looked at the relevant policies and I see nothing that would preclude "Jack" from being included, especially if it is widely used in the press. If it's still her legal name, it's obviously acceptable, and if it was her legal name at the time of the arrest, a footnote a la Elliot Page would surely be acceptable. Have you tried adding it, ideally accompanied by an explanation on talk that cites this bit?
Well, then I guess we'll never know.
I changed my mind. Here.
(The former discussion was here; the edit removing it was here.)
I didn't technically do what you asked me to do, for reasons I explained in that post, but would you still consider this an adequate test?
Liberals in particular invoke amoralism when conservatives state conservative moral positions, but it's a strawman since most liberals hold deep moral positions on other topics.
I mean, some of the edgier ones do, but it's more usual to deny (usually implicitly) some of the moral axes of conservatives (and social justice progressives) as meaningful without outright denying the existence of oughts.
Incongruous genitalia or secondary sexual characteristics aren't associated with gender dysphoria, they are gender dysphoria.
Gender dysphoria is the feeling that they're incongruous, which is not quite the same thing. There are two ways to fix gender dysphoria: make the self-concept fit the physical body, or make the physical body fit the self-concept. Which works better? Well, I dunno. RCTs are the way to find out.
(Note that body dysmorphia doesn't respond well to surgery.)
Trans women generally don't want to be trans women, they want to be cis women, they want to pass and have functioning reproductive systems, etc.
You don't need to tell me that; I arguably was one.
We are doing transitions with transition therapy as it really exists, not Culture Cycle clarketech. If transition therapy as it really exists doesn't help actual life outcomes, then it shouldn't be the standard of care (with obvious knock-on effects regarding public funding for it, regarding medical advice to dysphoria sufferers, regarding letting minors do it, and regarding family-court judgements).
Again, many anecdotal reports of people who tried ignoring their dysphoria and it never went away.
Define "never". Took over a decade for me.
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I don't mind the micro, but there are a bunch of balance issues which really detract from the depth, even without the expansion.
(Standard terraforming is supposed to be stronger but more time-consuming - and polluting - than forests, but forests are too strong for this to work. Condensors' bonus to their own square is too strong, so nobody ever uses their interesting rain effect in favour of simply spamming condensors everywhere. Air power is kinda OP. And there's an ICS problem later in the game because of the Hab Dome limit and then the one-unit-per-turn limit binding excessively-hard.)
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