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Gheobhaidh mé bás ar an gcnoc seo.
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FtttG
Gheobhaidh mé bás ar an gcnoc seo.
1hr ago
The belief that black people on average have lower IQs than white people in no way leads inevitably to the decision not to bother interviewing black people for an intellectually demanding role, any more than the belief that Kenyans and Ethiopians have a massive advantage in long-distance running leads inevitably to the decision to ban Caucasians from competing in marathons.
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5hr ago
Nick Fuentes
There's nothing surprising about a closeted gay man who hates women.
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5hr ago
Maybe you only did it for rhetorical effect but the word "history" is not a portmanteau of "his story".
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5hr ago
That is to say: openly, unapologetically sexist men, who don't even try to hide it or justify it.
I think we need to be careful about how we use this word, and disambiguate it the same way we would "racist". In "Against Murderism", Scott argued that the word "racist" is generally assigned three mutually exclusive definitions:
- Definition by Belief (belief that races are different from one another)
- Definition by Motivation (a desire to bring harm to races other than one's own)
- Definition by Consequences (racist things or beliefs are those which cause harm to people of other races, even if that was not their intention)
Of these, the only one that really makes any sense to me is the second one.
Along the same lines, I don't think most chuds actively wish harm on women. I think when these men are accused of being "sexist", it's based on the first definition: the belief that men and women are different. Spoiler alert: they are, and the belief that they aren't (or that they would be, if not for the patriarchy/social conditioning/culture) is one of the silliest beliefs the human race has ever produced. Stereotypes exist for a reason, and most stereotypes about women (and men!) are true far more often than not.
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6hr ago
Seconded, Nice Guys is pretty good but Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is one of my favourite comedies ever.
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9hr ago
My "type" was established from a very young age.
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12hr ago
Can you show me where you think I said they have no moral responsibility?
The fact that, in your first reply to me, you described the October 7th attacks as having "happened", the exact kind of evasive euphemistic language I decried in the OP.
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13hr ago
@hydroacetylene: conservatives tend to have much more agency (emphasis mine)
you: a couple of examples of progressives actively doing things
This seems very "but I know a woman who's really tall!" or "I know an Asian guy who's bad at maths!"
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16hr ago
I want to be in Ravenclaw so I can hang out with Cho Chang.
I feel like I'm losing my mind here. You have Hamas commanders (Yahya Sinwar among them) openly stating that the purpose of the October 7th attacks was to escalate the conflict by provoking Israel into a more aggressive response than they had thitherto been using. You had some of these fine gentlemen explicitly contemplating the possibility that the October 7th attacks might be so gruesome and horrific that Israel would use nuclear weapons in response. And yet you still refuse to assign any moral responsibility for the escalation in hostilities to Hamas. Everything is ultimately Israel's fault, because of something something 1948 right of return.
This seems like a tremendous example of the hypoagentic framing I was complaining about in the OP.
But how about I propose some admittedly arbitrary cutoffs to demonstrate that the October 7th attacks represented a major discontinuity in the conflict up to that point in 2023:
- It was the first time 1,000+ civilians were killed as part of the conflict in a single day in 2023.
- It was the first time 500+ civilians were killed as part of the conflict in a single day in 2023.
- It was the first time 100+ civilians were killed as part of the conflict in a single day in 2023.
- It was the first time 50+ civilians were killed as part of the conflict in a single day in 2023.
Do you dispute any of these figures?
This also illustrates why your invocation of the 71k figure is a cheat. Israel did not kill 71k Palestinians all at once, but over the course of three years, during which they sustained considerable casualties of their own.
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1d ago
To define the "most recent conflict" as starting on Oct 7th, you either have to assert that there was no conflict before that date
I have to do no such thing. I simply have to stipulate that there was a low-level conflict prior to October 2023, and a sudden and dramatic escalation of hostilities in October 2023. I genuinely don't see how anyone could contradict such a claim in all seriousness.
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1d ago
He had so many memorable quotes! Some choice bangers:
- In a right triangle, the square on the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares on the other two sides.
- ax2 + bx + c = 0.
- y = mx + b.
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1d ago
I was referring to the most recent "hot war" in Gaza, not to the broader Israel-Palestine conflict. I think this was abundantly obvious from context.
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1d ago
I had a maths teacher called Mr. Fox. He was fantastic.
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1d ago
Yes, I agree that these labels are confusing and outmoded. A long time ago, I pointed out that white nationalists who want to transform the US into a white ethnostate are habitually characterised as "conservative". But to conserve things means to keep things the way they are. The US isn't a white ethnostate, so by definition anyone who wants to turn it into one can't be a conservative. Rather, white nationalists are reactionaries.
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1d ago
I was tempted to mention the people who've claimed in all seriousness that Hamas killed zero civilians on October 7th, and all the footage depicting them doing that is AI-generated. But I decided I've banged that drum plenty of times already.
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1d ago
never met a JFK conspiracist
Well, I certainly haven't met one who seriously claimed that no one assassinated JFK. But I suppose such a person must exist.
In any case, I suppose strictly speaking it would be "consensus-building" to claim that it's not up for debate that two planes crashed into the Twin Towers and that the buildings were not destroyed by explosives. But I view that as "consensus-building" on a par with the claim that "it's not open for debate that heliocentrism is true".
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1d ago
Is a blockade not an ongoing military action that kind of complicates the whole idea of Hamas striking first out of nowhere?
I don't recall ever claiming that Hamas struck "out of nowhere". I agree that a blockade constitutes an ongoing military action. Another example of a military action is "firing a missile at another country", something Hamas did somewhere in the region of twelve or thirteen thousand times (source 1, source 2, source 3) between the end of the previous "hot war" and the beginning of the most recent one. No one disputes that Israel and Palestine were engaged in an ongoing conflict prior to October 2023, but it's equally indisputable that there was a sudden and dramatic escalation of hostilities in October 2023. I think the most parsimonious framing of the above is that the immediate catalyst for the escalation in hostilities was Hamas's invasion of Israel on October 7th.
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1d ago
One can characterise the Israel-Palestine conflict as a cold war which periodically gets hot. I don't think anyone is disputing that there was a war in Gaza in 2014, and that the situation in Gaza looked very different before that war began and afterwards. I don't think anyone in Gaza would claim that they didn't notice any difference in their day-to-day experiences before and after that war began. Equally, I don't think anyone would dispute that the 2014 war was just the latest instance of a cold war going hot in a long, long line of them.
By the same logic, I don't think it's controversial to state that the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict went hot in October 2023 and the catalyst for it going hot was the invasion of Israel by Hamas squaddies. Accepting that fact does not require you to sympathise with Israel, believe that Israel aren't committing a genocide, believe that Israel has the right to defend itself, believe that Israel has a right to exist etc. But I don't think it's open to dispute that the most recent instance of this cold conflict going hot was prompted by an action freely undertaken by Hamas.
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1d ago
because "conservatism" is kind of the definition of not doing things
I don't agree. Conservatism doesn't mean "don't do anything" but "don't do anything new".
Some questions of fact are open for debate. Some are not, and it isn't "consensus-building" to say so. No one would accuse me of "consensus-building" if I said it wasn't open for debate that JFK was assassinated in Dallas in November '63, or that two planes crashed into the Twin Towers in September '01.
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1d ago
I don't treat the October 7th attacks as having happened – look at that, you're doing the exact thing I criticised in the OP – having been committed in a vacuum. I'm aware that they were a reopening of hostilities in a conflict which has been ongoing for the guts of a century.
But the fact remains: in the most recent conflict, Hamas struck first. That part is not open for debate. Other things that are not open for debate: Hamas deliberately targeted civilians; most civilians killed were intentionally killed by Hamas and not by the IDF; Hamas intentionally chose to attack Israel. The October 7th attacks were not "inevitable", and to claim that they were is to, ironically, deny the agency of the Palestinian people.
where you start out by pretending that Israelis and Palestinians were living in peace and harmony until Oct 7th
Please show me where I said any such thing.
But there's nothing intrinsically bad about holding the belief that black people have lower IQs, on average, than white people. It's analogous to saying that believing in gravity is bad, because it might lead people to the decision to push someone off a cliff. Factual statements and beliefs are morally inert.
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