hydroacetylene
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hydroacetylene
2hr ago
The fifties actually saw a decline in female labor force participation, because housewives are a luxury good and male incomes were rising fast.
hydroacetylene
18hr ago
In the past, this might have been accepted in some places(notoriously Tolkien was raised by a Catholic priest) but today having a child is generally disqualifying from the priesthood absent exceptions for married priests, and allowing priests to be guardians is incredibly rare(there is literally a single case in the entire US where a priest is allowed to be a guardian of a minor child- and in that case, the mom abandoned her baby when the parish was offering free babysitting so she could work an unusual shift, then got arrested, and they weren't able to track down the grandma for something like a year, at which point she testified that the kid should remain with the priest).
The adult children of former Anglican-now Catholic priests and of Eastern rite priests are very different people, is all I can say.
hydroacetylene
18hr ago
But those are incompetent people and this woman is obviously blue tribe enough that 'guns' aren't the default answer to personal security questions.
hydroacetylene
18hr ago
There's a tendency to overstate both the moral judgement on successful men having affairs in the past(often there was none- and even if there was, it was a lot less than we'd expect) and the panopticon in practice. You could just go somewhere no one knew your face(the other side of the city, say) and use an assumed name. Nobody would know.
I was required to read, in high school, memoirs of a fifties child from a 'broken home'(they did exist). And hoo boy did he tear through a high-trust society. He nearly gets molested by his dad's gay friend, tells someone about it, and is handed a war trophy rifle and told not to let it happen again. On the word of a fifteen year old boy. Based, you might say, but this is the same society where he opens a checking account in someone else's name with no ID, because he's tall for his age(due to shoe inserts. He also has fake glasses to make him look older) so it's plausible he looks like an adult, who's gonna question. He uses the same hack to get ahold of booze, condoms, change his grades, etc. When he's living with his mother(in elementary school this time) she converts to Catholicism(a very serious commitment at the time) to try to get an exit strategy from her abusive, deadbeat boyfriend. The nuns who are supposed to be taking care of him so she can work are unable to, because he just... leaves, and then fakes correspondence between the two(he doesn't want the abusive boyfriend gone, he lets him skip school to work on cars and run around in the countryside). Eventually the nuns distract the boyfriend enough for his mom to take him and leave cities, he never finds them again, and she leaves the church(too many rules, I suspect) and marries a dickhead who beats him for not getting A's. So he just... never goes to class, except to change his grades. Manually, with a pencil on his report card. No, they don't type it up, who would lie? He did, as it turns out. He uses the same trick to get a scholarship into a prep school, which he promptly fails out of, and celebrates this achievement by drinking in a bar at 17- nobody asks for his ID, he just claims to be 18. That incident is prompted by his friend group knocking up a local girl, but nobody knows who did it- so they just argue with each other until someone folds and claims to be the daddy, and marries her with the explicit intention of divorcing after two years.
A high trust society makes it really easy to get away with stuff by just... lying all the time. His dad also tells just cartoonish lies all the time, the few times we see him. The high-functioning and successful older brother, when we see him, is mostly believing the two pathological liars in his life claiming blatantly implausible things to beg for favors and money. So are the other responsible adults. The kids fight, drink, shoplift, smoke cigarettes, borrow cars to go joyriding, have early sex(some of this is implied to be rape), skip school, etc etc. When they're caught by authority figures, they just lie about who they are, and the cops call the wrong set of parents to ask their kids to beat them. Men have to marry the girl they knock up, but most of the female characters in the story- except his mom, who might be some rose coloured glasses but also has an abusive partner of some description for most of it- are promiscuous, so it's more about which man gets caught holding the bag than who the actual dad is. The main character's stepsister is strongly implied to convince her 'good boy' boyfriend to sleep with her after she discovers she's pregnant by a half-caste townie she was cheating on him with so she can blackmail him into marrying her. Everybody is scamming each other absolutely all the time and everybody falls for it in a way that just seems totally implausible. Teachers, cops, bank employees all accept unlikely stories of sudden changes with no verification or supporting evidence.
This is what high trust societies are like. You can totally just tell not the truth and get away with it. There's discussions of izzat on the motte- I don't know, but it's hard not to see similarities in the worst examples of jeet behavior our anti-Indian racists come up with- to my mind the issue with Indians is less lying and more 'they don't like to pay their bills and they treat their workers like crap' than outright dishonesty. In the fifties, you could totally just tell the hotel employee you were married but the name change got caught up in paperwork. This wasn't 90's Ireland where honeymooning couples need a copy of their marriage license to rent the same hotel room. People just shew up out of nowhere and did whatever they want with flimsy excuses and everyone let them. I'm curious as to what our resident Japanese have to say about life in notoriously high trust and homogenous Japan- is just... saying stuff going to get you your way all the time, even if it's obviously untrue?
hydroacetylene
19hr ago
More men are in the trades due to the same work-life balance and temperament issues that dictate gender ratios everywhere, with a side of upper body strength. Most men can't easily tell the difference between 5'10 and 6' either. You see plenty of women working parts houses supplying the trades- less lucrative, but more predictable hours and much more predictable, pleasant work environments.
There's a joke in the trades- a little boy has school cancelled, so his mom tells him to go watch the construction site across the street. He comes home for lunch and his mom asks him, 'so, did you learn anything?' He says, yes, I learnt how to hang a door. She says, 'how do you do that?', and he says 'well, you shove that bitch in their, and if it don't fit you shave two cunt hairs off and shove it back in...' and horrified, she tells him to go to his room. When dad gets home, she tells him to go upstairs and ask his son what he learned that day. 'So, son, what did you learn today?' 'Well, I learnt how to hang a door' 'Oh really, how do you hang a door' 'well you shove that bitch in their, and if it don't fit you shave two cunt hairs off and try again' and dad says, 'Go get me a switch' to which he says 'Fuck you, that's the electrician's job'.
Doing that for sixty hours a week is how you get started in the trades. Few women make it past this filter.
hydroacetylene
23hr ago
Protestantism is either Catholic light, indistinguishable from surrounding society, or aniconic when it comes to the visual language. Orthodoxy is too foreign. Tridentine Catholicism- or a hybridized version with the novus ordo- is what filmmakers like shooting, because it shows up well on camera, it's distinctive, and it looks cool.
hydroacetylene
23hr ago
Yeah, she thought he would get out of the building and no one would be any the wiser.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
While there might be some sexual selection for male height going on, I doubt it’s gonna be strong enough to wind up with health problems.
Also height is pretty easy to lie about.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Is the CCP going to any particular effort to promote cantonese specifically? I would be unsurprised if they were pushing mandarin, although I haven’t seen any evidence of trying to promote it abroad(I have seen this for both French and Russian, but still YMMV).
hydroacetylene
1d ago
turkishGreek coffee is... well I like it. Goes great with a cigarette and a pastry.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
The actual comparison for fresh ground coffee beans is brick fired pizza vs everything else, though, isn't it? And while I'll agree that brick fired pizza is better than dominos, we would refer to your hypothetical person who eats pizza only if it's brick fired as 'doesn't like pizza but eats it brick fired'.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
What is an adult doing on discord?
hydroacetylene
1d ago
On 4), you can find low-English proficiency working class Hispanics who are more than happy to talk to you in their native language in, if not Baltimore, but definitely DC and NoVa. It just takes going off the beaten path.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
And, to the point- Democrats really need local machines to win elections. Call it fraud, call it 'turn out the vote', doesn't really matter- democrats simply will not win competitive elections if the (often corrupt)local machines don't feel like it, and making them feel threatened is bad for that effort.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
There's plenty of well-placed progressive democrats who would be happy to bring down the old guard.
More to the point, we, uh, know who Trump cheated on his wives with. His type is well known, and it doesn't seem like 'young teens' were his thing.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
And nobody's gonna bother coming after him anyways, realistically.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Evangelicals do not marry in their thirties(although nor do they marry in their teens, there's an entire decade in between), nor do normie evangelicals make a huge deal out of avoiding premarital sex.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Aren't the ancient north eurasians literally the ancestors of every civilized race and also pretty close to China?
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Marriage is earlier, basically. When women's standard of living benefits more from marriage than from career investment both sexes marry at high rates.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Aren't you trying to be tradcath? Haven't you noticed the families double buckling, running illegal daycares in their living room, open carrying in blue states, putting seven kids in one room, running totally illegal rental schemes on a cash basis, having entire construction companies competitive on the basis of not pulling permits? All 100% autobiographical observations and going on in normal suburbs. I'm sure the same things happen in the protestant equivalents. The local Mexicans definitely do all of these things, and more.
As it turns out, you can just do things if you don't leave bodies on the ground and have a whole community to run cover for you. Could secular rationalists replicate it? Probably not. 'Federal law' is pushing it because most of these are local bylaws that no one really cares about; the haredi and FLDS do violate federal law, but mostly for welfare fraud.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Jerry Pournelle wrote about a solution. Not a pleasant, utopian solution, but I don't think the citizen islands from the codominium are that implausible.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
How many of the people upset about China's treatment of Falun Gong are specifically upset because they're epoch times readers?
hydroacetylene
3d ago
There are just an absolutely enormous number of well-educated, intelligent people believing things that... do not match up with current western consensus, all over the world. Korea, or other oriental countries, having less investment in western shibboleths, means they're willing to opine about this stuff more.
hydroacetylene
3d ago
Isn't it a fad for korean parents to send their kids to hebrew studies for no apparent reason?
In the Anglosphere it’s not that unusual to find a married, Latin rite priest who converted from Anglicanism or Lutheranism. Priests who were ordained after widowhood is not a thing in the USA, however- although it’s theoretically allowed to ordain widowers, those with dependent children are right out(and dependent is interpreted very broadly indeed). And theres typically also an age cutoff- priests must begin their nine year formation process before a certain age.
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