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Hilaire Belloc was a British Catholic reactionary intellectual from the interwar era- in other words, from the same milieu and basic worldview as JRR Tolkien, GK Chesterton(with whom he cooperated on his vision of distributism), etc, and his vision shares the expected blindspots of such thinkers- that is, it's not very well suited to modern industrial society, because it's agrarian, ruralist, and asystematic in approach due to the aim of preserving traditional, and by that point more or less dead, social structures. John C Medaille is an academic economist or philosopher or something, it's hard to tell(he doesn't have an advanced degree and the University of Dallas plays kind of fast and loose with the separation between the two), who attempts to bastardize the theory into a modern industrial society compatible version, which of course in practice would at broad enough scale probably reduce into vanguard party socialism. He does, however, put together an interesting framework for small scale and less profit-oriented businesses to compete in the modern USA, and can point to a few small scale successes, mostly on the scale of reviving main street in singular small towns and the like.

Where this gets interesting is applying his ideas to the sorts of industries which hold back attempts at building genuine parallel societies, a la the Gab endgoal. Like it or not a parallel society in the 2020's USA needs an alternative to big tech, hollywood, etc, and 'just be Amish' is unworkable. The traditionalist project can only succeed by forming a parallel society which takes over the American mainstream through natural population growth, like what mohammedans are doing to some Euro countries. Ideologically driven niche coordination problems tacking into the winds of economic rationality are literally the problem. Once that precondition is solved and begins achieving broader adoption it generates a positive feedback loop which of its own volition begins to purify the stratum embracing it of modernist influences, and superior social function increases the appeal still further, sort of like how the gradient of Jewish practice in Israel drags the entire country increasingly to the right. Yes it takes time and needs kinks ironed out but traditional structures can only come about through traditional, not revolutionary, means.

In mammal and bird species, juvenile masculinization is a very common phenomenon in species where 'mating too early' is a serious issue on the population level, reaching its apogee in spider monkeys and hyenas(where it's looped back around to... causing serious issues on the population level for other reasons). Humans notably don't do this by default, but it should be unsurprising as a result of male sexuality fear.

That humans are incapable of doing this should also be unsurprising.

No.

The decay of Anglosphere democracies will only be rectified when the still-civilized parts of the population do to them what mohammedans are slowly but surely doing to France, Sweden, etc. There is no hope for this in the UK and in South Africa this will only occur after balkanization.

I mean, autism seems to reduce the odds of forming a stable nuclear family.

Distributism as a full scale alternative to socialism/capitalism is selling a bill of goods, and more of a feature of neodistributism than chesterbelloc(indeed continental contemporaries attempting this saw themselves as doing something different).

But while neo-distributists have nothing useful to say about running a whole economy, their discussion around the conditions pertaining to small scale capitalism are very interesting. And that smaller scale refugia is necessary to build the basis for a societal rebuild. There are entire industries dominated by cultural enemies which cannot simply be dispensed from, even as their alt version never needs to rise above the ideologically driven niche- and ideologically driven niche capitalism at small scale is the version of distributism advocated by most of the neo-distributists, with the Belloc version rural by necessity- unlike Medaille’s theories.

I don’t have a lot of sympathy for middle aged men whose mistresses turned out to be jailbait(especially not 14 year old jailbait), but going out with one involves going far enough out of a 14 year old’s way- bearing in mind that she couldn’t drive and sharply limited independence was pretty normal at that age- that it’s difficult to believe her parents didn’t know.

Palestinian Christians and Israeli Christians are both essentially thé economic elites of their local Arab communities. They’re not ‘worse off’ in a meaningful way.

As I said, I think a better world would have found ways of preventing her from doing what she did, and of preventing the men who did what they did to her from doing it.

They’re called ‘parents’, and you don’t have to live in a better world for that. No really, since you went to school with this person- where were her parents? 14 and 40 is a very different thing from 17 and 20(which many parents would let slide even if they don’t like it).

The FtM’s are not, by and large, particularly interested in being male. They are interested in being not-female, so I wonder how much of the sexual assault link is driven by them specifically and how much is driven by stable two parent families producing both few assault victims and few gender weirdos.

I know communism includes some crazy utopians thinking the oceans will turn to lemonade,

Charles Fourier wasn’t technically a communist, he was a different, unrelated branch of utopian socialist.

Communism as a technical term refers to the end state of history predicted by Marx. This end state doesn’t happen to exist, ofc, but there is a reason that the Soviet Union did not claim to be a communist regime. Thé Leninist idea was a departure from orthodox Marxism(which held that this end state will just happen after a series of events that were falsified in the Victorian era- more of a prophecy than a policy plan) in that it held socialism could be directed into a communist society- this of course didn't happen, because communist societies are, it bears repeating, not real, but still, thé idea was to reach a wild eyed utopian project even if for the time being quite a number of concessions need to be made to practicality.

The U.S. Green Party would like a word- it swings back and forth between generic retard left and nutty woo woo granola conspiracy theorists.

Amerinds were granted citizenship after thé fighting stopped and the old war chiefs were mostly dead.

Unlike Israël, apartheid SA’s citizen body wasn’t 20% black.

But New Yorkers and the red tribe elite also dislike each other- indeed far more than thé red tribe elite and hillbillies.

But Ashkenazim are not a majority, or indeed plurality, of Israeli Jews.

The US invaded Afghanistan because we had to do something over 9/11 and stayed there due to inertia. We invaded Iraq for oil and it was actually a strategic victory. The Syrian and Libyan interventions were Obama trying to spread liberalism.

Israeli Arabs do have equal rights under the law. Palestinians are not lawful residents of Israël.

It’s due to the nature of social progress and western responses. De Maistre defined how the revolution would be defeated 200 years ago; not through a revolution against, the Orleanist solution that failed not only in France but with Franco’s shogunate and which is at least unsuccessful in Iran, but through the opposite of a revolution, adaptatory and distributed change which coalesces into its own antithesis in a reverse dialectic, gradually restoring the civilization of the west.

The western right by and large does not realize this, and does not realize how to do this; this despite the distributists completing the system of de Maistre’s counter-revolution in an inculturated form nearly a century ago. In east Asia, things are different, as the embedded Confucianism of these societies naturally generates its own antithesis to revolution, resultant in the dialectic restoring their tradition passively. But we’re talking about the west, here, where Confucius is a strange foreign import of made up wisdom to sell fortune cookies. Things are different, and that’s ok.

What can you do? You can join real traditional communities and contribute to rebuilding functional villages which, by their very nature, will seek to confederate, turning into a standardization feedback loop that rebuilds a healthy society over the centuries. Quick and cheap doesn’t work; neither right wing Leninist vanguard parties nor neo-orleanism can push the process through, although political accommodationism to this societal rebuilding is probably a good thing.

Minor correction- thé highly religious have a replacement birth rate. Secular conservatives have near replacement.

Red tribe spaces like bass pro shop are full of kids. Parents of young children are like R+20. A crude correlate between birthrate and county vote share gives counties above 80% Republican as the threshold for replacement. There are two large American cohorts that are mostly replacing themselves- republicans and Hispanics.

White liberals, on the other hand, have a birthrate like Asians do.

It’s not a horror to be expected to take drugs as part of social participation. What did you think alcohol was?

Why not both/and?

The younger generations have pretty strong failure to launch issues. Those issues are male tilted and the women who do NEET it up may not be at the top of the market, but a woman’s unemployment is just less important to the dating market. That (many)men need to get good is just factually true.

On the other hand social media trends seem to drive ridiculous expectations. That is also true.

Mail order brides are an established thing, you can just reach out to the agencies that specialize in facilitating this if you specifically want a Chinawoman.

So JD Vance is thé go between for the world’s top bad faith negotiators?

The actual conditions don’t mean anything; eventually there will be a cease fire where Iran opens the straights and cuts off a single one of its many foreign proxies in exchange for sanctions relief. But there’s a complicated dance of bad faith negotiations to preserve fiqh.

There are smartphones specifically for kids. This is a major topic of discussion among parents.

The article may be badly written because of second language errors. That certainly seems like a contributing factor to what I read.

As far as the Chinese dating market, it obviously sucks, because there’s more men than women. Ideally you want slightly more women than men, so that every reasonably eligible man pairs off, women don’t feel so overwhelmed with male attention that they resort to third wave feminism(and third wave feminism is, by and large, a reaction to the perception of male sexual threat. This perception might be illusory but that’s what’s driving it- and this is why feminism spends so much time talking up sexual harassment), etc. Add in that this is a country which doesn’t have a history of dating/courting like in the west, so they’re trying to figure this out from first principles.