ArjinFerman
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That's not mockery on the "can't take this guy seriously level". Compare it to officer what's-his-name getting thrown around the room by Snoke, in front of his subordinates.
, I feel like that reading could only make sense if The Force Awakens by itself was a tolerably good film
Why?
You have two whole acts of the story to play with, characters that can fit into standard archetypes that you can develop as you please, a mysterious villain that you can take in any direction you want... Even if we accept that TFA is horrible beyond human comprehension, there is nothing in it that prevents the next episode from being good. This is in stark contrast to TLJ which does fuck everything up for anyone writing the final act.
ArjinFerman
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7hr ago
That is not the case in the ST. The sequels have devoted significant screen time to establishing that their villains are a clown show. Kylo Ren is an immature brat who establishes screen presence through mere physical violence - he's a thug, with none of Vader's presence. Hux is a resentful boob, seen quivering with impotent rage more than he is genuinely threatening people.
That was a choice made mostly in TLJ, they didn't have to set them up this way.
My sense is that Rian Johnson made an attempt to cook a meal with the ingredients he was given, and while the result was kind of crap, it was, given what he was working with, about as good as could have been expected.
Literally reversing the roles of Johnson and Abrams in what actually happened. TFA wasn't that good, but it wasn't bad either, they could have gone anywhere with it. The idea that TLJ was "as good as could have been expected, given what he was working with" is pure cope. If they handed it off to any decent manga / anime writer, Disney would probably have their cash cow that they could milk for another generation
It was The Rise Of Skywalker that was an attempt to cook given the ingredients. Yes, it sucked and no one sane will defend it, but it's a direct result of Johnson spending the entire second act wrecking what was set up in the first, and handing it back saying "ok, you can finish the story now".
Let's be so for real here though, the prequels were mid and only redeemed themselves way later on.
I mean, they didn't redeem themselves. Johnson and Abrams redeemed them.
and it would have been just as bad if TLJ had been better.
I don't know about that that. I think part Rise being so terrible was the scramble to finish the story from where TLJ left off. If they let Abrams do the whole thing, it would have been horrible slop, but it would be a bit more coherent.
ArjinFerman
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9hr ago
The Wachowskis were goaded into making another subpar action flick that could make Warner Brothers some money.
I'm willing to cut the Wachowskis some slack because, as far as I understood the situation, they didn't want to make the movie at all, knowing to leave well enough alone, but were given an ultimatum that if they don't, it will be handed to someone else. Under those circumstanfes it actually makes sense to blow the whole thing up, and unlike Johnson, it was actually their franchise to kill.
I don't even know about the "could make the studio some money" part. It didn't ane they did a damn good job of ensuring it turns out that way. It's a terrible Matrix film, but as a rant against Hollywood, it's was amusing to watch.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
Not really. It comes and goes in waves ever since it was "solved".
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
I don't know about "die", but yeah, poor performance is going to be very bad for user activity.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
The one time I tried to look into it, it was a massive pain in the ass, and I'd much rather use Go, or literally anything else.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
Sorry, clicking youtube link is such a rare scenario for me that I'm completely satisfied copy-pasting them like a caveman.
ArjinFerman
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2d ago
So do I:
- https://freetubeapp.io/
- https://invidious.io/
- https://piped.video/
I mostly stick with FreeTube.
It's often enough that when it happens, you're not surprised, but not so often that paying for a subscription makes any sort of sense.
And on the off chance it was taking them a while to update the alternative players, I never experienced the issues ublock / Brave's builtin blocker.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
Rightist and anti-AI: it's a threat to traditional values, it undermines the human soul, it's a Satanic deception designed to lead us astray from the path of righteousness.
You have everything from people outsourcing the analysis and reasoning skills - particularly destructive in case of children who might never learn them - a particular type of women getting one-shot by AI-BFs and therapists, and all the way to enabling the creation of dystopian systems of surveillance and manipulation of entire societies, and you're going to go with "it undermines the human soul", huh?
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
I don't follow him, but I don't have him filed in under "normie" or "less engaged". I distinctly remember him wading into just standard politics (around the time of the 2008 crisis) and culture war (women aren't worse in sports, it's just that the way we do sports is sexist... because of the way the ball moves...). I suppose they're dispersed enough that you could say he's smart enough to stay out of it for the most part.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
I guess I needed a break from my project, because something compelled me to start rearranging my OS'. In related news: Devuan is kinda cool... or I get the feeling it will, once I finish beating it into submission.
How are you doing @Southkraut?
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
Even if I, and others like me, don't buy into the values of these institutions, the fact that they promote these values so aggressively shows that there are vast swathes of society that accept them as well (which are, importantly, the bits of society with money and political power). If transition is so important to people, the idea that someone would desist instead of moving to California or wherever feels bizarre. Also, even though I don't buy into their values, doesn't mean I'm going to go out of my way to be a dick about, and even the people who might be so inclined will probably think twice about it given the possibility of cancellation. So while the claims of discrimination aren't impossible, they just don't sound terribly plausible.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
And if they are tall, broad-shouldered and square-jawed, and they decide to transition, but half-way through, pre-op, they feel the society treat them as a freak, or a sexual deviant, or mentally ill, or just an extremely ugly woman, and they decide to not go through with it. Is that really inconceivable?
Not inconceivable, but a bit of a tall order. These arguments sounded reasonable 10-ish years ago when the whole thing felt new and mysterious. Now, that everyone from international corporations, governments to public schools has spent years draping themselves in trans flags, and putting trans people front and center, it's a bit hard to believe.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
like the "I don't want to have to marry a man to make a living/have to marry a woman to obtain companionship and sex" people to obligate marriage?
Like the "there is no such thing as famine anymore" / "motherhood is merely the means of reproduction and little else" people are to it. People who didn't want to marry always existed and weren't a problem.
Rest assured I don't think that being a 1000 body count fuckboy/slut should be the highest aspiration and the goal of all freedom-loving people.
I'd say that this what your views lead to, whether you think they should or not, but the next step is likely going to be sexless rat utopia, so we won't even get the 1000 "body" orgies.
ArjinFerman
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5d ago
I'm not comparing you to someone who claims that western society is good, because it provides abundance, even if that means you have to put in effort to not grow fat, or regulate the food industry.
I'm comparing you to the HAES / Lizzo's beuty enjoyers / fitness is fascism people. People who see fatness itself as liberation from oppressive forces like beuty standards, healthy diets and exercise.
ArjinFerman
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5d ago
This is like framing America's obesity epidemic as "liberation". Technically correct, I suppose.
ArjinFerman
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5d ago
It's about as confusing as a person wanting to get in shape, instead of being content to fill themselves up with junk food and whatching their health deteriorate. It would be nature taking it's course too, wouldn't it?
As for it sounding socialisty, there aren't that many devoted libertarians out there.
ArjinFerman
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5d ago
By looking at the reaction to a given proposal. "We should favor coping strategies to deal with body image issues, rather just prescribing hormones" would be met with a huge amount of hostility, which is not indicative of uncertainty.
ArjinFerman
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5d ago
Oh no... did I forget to add "...on this issue"? Or were you expecting people to be logically consistent?
The claim itself is easily defensible, I just linked you to a source where the "top experts" talk about everything from transitioning non-dysphorics to schizophrenics.
To be fair, I think that bodily autonomy generally makes a good Schelling point. There are certainly limits, few would argue that the psychotic who is stabbing himself to kill the spiders crawling inside his skin should get bodily autonomy,
Yes, well, few as they may be, there seems to be a higher concentration of them in the biggest international association concerned with transgender health.
but get really upset with a mother who does a better job of protecting her kid from chemicals, even though death from oxygen deprivation is the natural fate of a human almost anywhere in the observable universe.
The majority of the observable universe being the cold vacuum of space, you're quite correct, but the one bit of the universe where humans are typically seen, depriving them of oxygen does usually require some form of intervention. If you want a real gotcha you can say they would be upset at refusing a blood transfusion or a dialysis machine, though even there the Natural Law enjoyers have arguments for why they are ok with that, and not other things.
Failure to prevent the onset of puberty is not meaningfully different from purposefully inducing puberty
Puberty is a necessary process for development of not just all humans, not just all primates, not even only of all mammals, but practically every animal observable to the naked eye, that anyone will ever run into. Without it it, you lose access to one of the core functions of your body. You can say that it might be worth it under specific circumstances, bot it's loony say they're the same.
just like killing a patient by turning off their ventilator is not meaningfully different from killing them through the injection of pentobabitone.
The ventilator itself is an active intervention, while puberty is, again, the process of developing a core function of one's healthy body, making the analogy somewhat stilted.
Naturally, that does not mean that any intervention is good, just that there are no moral shortcuts which save you from looking at the outcomes.
This is where most utilitarians cheat. It's not enough to look at the outcomes, you need a moral framework to judge those outcomes by.
On the object level, I do not have a race in the "gender interventions in minors" topic
I got used to the "no dog in this fight" folks, but I'd imagine you'd have somethimg to say about your "real world" model of mental health not really reflecting reality because of this issue.
What are you talking about, there was hardly any ST to reinvent. Just tell a normal story and do it well, stop trying to be original and "subversive".
I brought up manga and anime because the Japanese got so good at getting people emotionally invested into characters and showing their development through a series of flashy fights, it's like they got it down to a science. Yeah, yeah, pseudointellectuals will complain about how derivative it all is and has nothing that deep to say, and I will remind them that we're talking about Star Wars. We're aiming for a not-that-deep but fun adventure that everyone can enjoy watching.
The whole problem with TLJ is that it did try to swerve course... onto wall. With what it did there was no way for part 3 to be anything other than a disaster, which was not the case after TFA.
There was nothing to rescue from post TFA. All the pieces are still on the board minus Han Solo, you can literally do whatever you want. After TLJ not only are Luke and Leia gone, so are the majoroty of the Republic forces, and so is Snoke. Ren was not main villain material and you don't have the time to develop him into one. What the hell were they supposed to do? I low-key hate Abrams, but it's ridiculous to put the blame on him.
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