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I think what he was getting from his second term was revenge / general "up your's" against the people who messed up his first term. Right now he is being treated as a more or less normal president, so I don't see a reason for him to double-down on spite. Maybe if he actually had a clear and specific vision for the future of the country, I could imagine him desperately clinging on to power to ensure it's correctly implemented. The problem is that:
a) He does not strike me as the kind of man who would have such a vision
b) Even if he was, the safest way to get this sort of thing done is to groom an heir to pass the torch to, and JD Vance is a pretty good candidate for that, and he has a whole bunch of kids and other relatives.
c) If for whatever reason there is no acceptable heir, the only way these sorts of gambits work out, is when you have popular support north of 80%, and I'm pretty sure he knows it.

What is even supposed to be the upside of this idea for Trump himself?

French has a clear vision - Christians can prosper in a viewpoint-neutral public sphere

That's the least clear thing I've heard in a while. What is "viewpoint-neutral" even supposed to mean?

Sure, but if there were to be mass migration from Israel, there would be conflict between the groups and the two-tier policing would favor the Muslims.

But it would still place them above native Europeans.

And no, most of that Muslim migration was not caused by Israel.

Yeah, I know. It was the US.

If European law was ever actually enforced, the entire continent would grind to a halt.

This is an oldie, and the use of AI boiled down to making the voiceovers, but I probably won't get a better chance to share it with anyone who cares, so here's a video version of my Eunuch Archive post.

By the way, you don't have any pics of the progress on this project?

Still refactoring. After simplifying the content import I wanted to consolidate everything so that it effectively doesn't matter whether the user is browsing the automatically imported content from the database, or the API directly (in a nitter like fashion), by putting everything into the same type of data transfer object. This is where I ran into a common issue of mine, where a framework / package does 90% of what I need it to, and the remaining 10% is something non-standard enough to cause the majority of my pain.

Well, I think I'm close of digging myself out of this particular hole.

How have you been doing @Southkraut?

That doesn't seem to follow. Just because you lose a vote doesn't mean you have no support. Presumably there were more than two votes in your favor, but if it's you and your bully friend against literally the entire world it might be time to start asking "are we the baddies?"

Also, to the extent Europe is unsafe for Jewish people, it's approximately 100% due to mass migration from Muslim countries.

A woman breaking the "no dick-riding" law (or would that be a "no pegging" law?) is still a woman, she's just a woman who's breaking the law.

Can you really? Because I don't think you can, or rather, what you define as 'woman' is wrong.

A woman is 'one whose social role is to be the bottom in the relationship', as contrasted to men which are the designated tops.

I'm sorry... and you're telling him he's the one with the wrong definition of 'woman'?

Now, you'll probably complain, and argue that a woman actually means 'XX chromosome-havers', but you'll need to explain to me why that state had to be imposed rather than the default state of nature for human beings.

I think I can just say "no, it didn't".

> Be journalist
> Spam the internet with "Elon Musk doing Nazi salute at Trump rally" articles
> Wait for articles to make it into the training data corpus
> Ask AI if Elon did the Nazi salute
> Chastise AI for getting the answer wrong

Well, looks like chances are good that our AI overlords might hate journalists even more than I do!

That is not remotely what non-partisan means.

I... thought "non-partisan" just means "not divided by party lines", so something equally supported, equally opposed, or roughly equally controversial, would indeed be "non-partisan"

No... I mean, like, they look at the profile pic, hear his ai-modified voice on a few podcasts, and go "seems legit".

Fixed, thanks!

In their defense, I've seen people claim and going some lengths to defend, the idea of him being a woman.

Okay, let's start with something basic. Here's 3 day training that Lockheed Martin executives were sent to, where they were asked to connect the term "white men" with terms like "old, racist, privileged, anti-women, angry, Aryan Nation, KKK, Founding fathers, guns, guilty, can’t jump.". Or here's a chart by the Smithsonian that's so anti-white that it somehow managed to flip over into being racist against non-whites.

but I guess I found it casually dismissive. I took as if you were saying "Oh some other people elsewhere flip-flop, big deal,"

This is correct. All claims that Trump represents some sort of breaking of norms are pure cope. He's no worse than all the other politicians.

But still I'd argue that, if nothing else, Trump's trade policy is crazy, and I have seen the right complain about it, they aside from grousing about it a bit don't seem to care.

How does that imply that Trump is "crazy"? People are going to have their disagreements even with the candidate they vote for.

I am suggesting that rather than, "The right canceled the Young Republicans at the left's behest," the more plausible scenario to me is "Some members of the right found it offensive, some didn't.

Yeah, that's my argument, that's why I never said "at the left's behest" but "for things offensive to the left". Because the right has a higher diversity of views they end up having in-group disagreements, and thus policing their extreme elements in a way that makes the movement less offensive to their opponents. No such mechanism exists on the left, therefore the conduct of the two movements is not equivalent.

but I'll be honest that I don't actually know where most of the center left congregates online

Doesn't that say something? If the "center left" exists, it should be mainstream, the places where they exist should be clear and obvious. If it's just a niche that no one knows where it congregates, the very concept of the "center left" becomes a bit dubious.

Though the Paul Pelosi incident doesn't make me feel that the right is that much better.

You can compare the reactions to the attack on Rand Paul with the reactions to the attack on Paul Pelosi, if you want. To compare either to the assasination of Charlie Kirk is a bit absurd.

But I don't think the goose and the gander need to be exactly symmetrical for the goose/gander principle to hold.

Yeah I agree, I'm not really interested in litigating cents, or miligrams, or whatever we are measuring this by, but I hold that symmetry is a coherent concept, and that the two sides are straightforwardly not symmetrical right now.

My point with Obama and this is the very idea of "policing" one's side is pointless. Plenty of the right have criticized Fuentes, but he still has a sizeable audience. Plenty have criticized Trump, and if anything they came out worse. It's the old, "So you called me a racist, now what?" You can't make them do anything or actually go away. Calling them out is kinda the most you can do, and if they ignore it not much you can do except maybe sabotage yourself by switching to a party whose policies you actively disagree with.

Then consider me extremely confused. If calling them out is pointless, then why are you upset at all the "who cares" arguments, and demand that people not accept arguments that they'd find unacceptable if they came from the other side? What specifically do you want to see from MAGA? Is the thing that you want to see being provided by the center-left, and if not, why should MAGA be the first one to start?

Side note that your links aren't useful. One seems to link to this comment chain and I wasn't sure if that was pointing to anything, and the other is a scatterplot with no context.

Sorry the graph is what I wanted to upload, but the study must have gotten lost in the clipboard. It's here: https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665

I'm more saying that politics is fought with weapons that are, long-term, useless. Anything you do can be undone. Even Roe v Wade could later be restored, albeit with difficulty.

And in war territories can be regained, industries can be rebuilt, populations can recover, etc. I'm not seeing the difference here.

I suppose you can make the case that they are "identitarian" in some vague abstract sense, but you're just not going to find the kind of racist screeds published by MAGA that routinely get published by progressive institutions. Or if I'm wrong feel free to enlighten me, but you seem like the one with the log in the eye.

Grok had a few brief stints as MechaHitler, but it's just as cucked as the rest of them.

I admire your skill of mixing your hobby horse into current events, and thus technically getting around the "find another topic, already" restriction. If only Marxbro could learn it, we might have a bit more fun here.

Anyway, I couldn't even get a straightforward adaptation of 19th century debate around Jefferson vs. Adams, from a Chinese AI, so what chance does Hitler have?

I have a confession: because apparently I'm still 12, I mentally answer to every sentence on this forum that ends with a question mark, with "YOUR MOM!", and then giggle at the occasional critical hit. Though this still isn't as good as the dude that asked "what's your favorite smell?" that one time.

I maintain that ROGD is the primary effector for trannification of teenage girls, and that it isn't trans agitprop that made them go one way but just idiotic teens

I agree and disagree at the same time. Once you reach critical mass, social contagion is probably the mechanism with the strongest effect, but there's usually a ground zero. The illustrative anecdote / analogy that goes around is anorexia. Apparently in Korea (I think) it was literally unheard of until some newspaper covered the cases in America, and then suddenly they had an epidemic.

but I maintain that the astroturfing didn't move where it needed to: the apolitical normie.

I mean, look, we still exist within the bounds of the physical universe. Le Rationalists love acting like everything is an organic process that is essentially impossible to influence top-down, and Social Constructivists love to act like with enough propaganda they could literally warp time and space, but I think there's a happy middle. You can push the boundaries quite far, but at some point reality will start reasserting itself, and that point is probably somewhere far before sending rapists to female prisons, because they declared themselves to be a pretty little princess.

I don't remember any keywords (well... okay I do remember one, but it's probably not helpful) to help be search for it, but I think there was literally a 4chan AI-generated sci-fi copy-pasta about humans coordinating their resistance against Skynet by the means of the hard-r.

I'd like to see an uncucked version make an attempt before giving a verdict. To me it seems like most of the things you're complaining about are an artifact of trying to remain inoffensive.