BaronVSS
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In about 10 years of shitposting on the internet about politics, I have come to the same conclusion. Pre-2020 clownworld, most of my writing was a mix of snark and observation with some anger, and everything since 2020 clownworld has been almost entirely anger. I have not changed anyone's mind on anything, and nor has anyone changed my mind on anything. Changes of opinion came entirely from reflection in my own time when I was alone, and certainly could not have occurred in the hyper-confrontational thunderdome that is the internet. At best, it was an outlet for my inner need to akshually when I see peace being valued over truth, and at worst a complete and total waste of my time.
Ultimately, the correct way to impose your will on others in a post industrial society is to form a sufficiently motivated group and use infiltration or intimidation to take over important insitutions and then use those institutions to enact your desire. Arguing on the internet is worse even than voting. Voting at least exposes the flaw the system and makes it clear to those aggreived that voting cannot get what they want.
The backstory, having been previously been withheld by government diktat (I wonder how many months the papers were collectively sitting on that mugshot, itching for the chance to print it) has now been published and we have learned some very interesting things, namely that:
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Despite suggestions the contrary, he had been defacto known to the authorities and was referred to Prevent several times. For reference, Nigel Farage was reprimanded for hinting in the months after the incident. *
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He had been caught with knives on 10 separate occasions.
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He had previously been expelled by his school for violent behaviour, but later attempted to return to commit a rampage with a knife about 3 weeks before he would commit the atrocity described above. He was indirectly stopped by his father, who pleaded with the taxi not to take him to his destination. His father then seemingly took no action after this.
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He had obtained the materials required to make ricin and terrorist literature from organisations from Al-Qaeda.
However, no terror related charges were passed against him. Upon conclusion of the trial, the immediate reaction from the government once this information has come out has been to redirect heat away from the government. Instead, the public is now to think of terrorists as "loners, misfits, young men in their bedroom" and to pass judgement against Amazon, so mentioned because he bought the knife used to commit the deed from Amazon.
I think this particular arc has come to its resolution, but the effects on the culture will be long lasting - the phrase "two tier" is now embedded in the public conscious, and the man in the street now has the perfect phrase to describe the observed worldview of the centre and left of centre (the Oppressed/Oppressor dichotomy) and their handling of disputes.
*Your definition of "known to the security services" may vary!
He was the son of two recent african migrants to the UK, and thus absolutely falls into the oppressed side of the oppressed/oppressor dichotomy which the two tier accusation is describing. It is crudely (but correctly) recognised that if he was a white anglo the state would not have reacted in the way it did during the initial time after the killing and during the unrest.
The Tories are not meaningfully different from Labour when it comes to the overarching governance of Britain. Both defacto support growth hindering policies and the vast burdens on state spending. The only meaningful difference is that Labour is the natural home of those who believe in the current view on fairness/equality and the Tories might be the home of those who disagree, but are utterly incapable/uninterested of moving against it.
They believe it captures the lived experience of young men who enter the alt-right/manosphere/incel pipeline for whatever reason and thus provides the antitode to that way of thinking. It doesn't for a whole host of reasons, the primary one being that the main character is 13 years old and most fears young men have about their social status and manhood kick in from around 15-16 onward after maturity has hit.
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11mo ago
This is almost entirely* the product of the past 5-10 years of the handling by the government/media alliance of every altercation between groups perceived to be white and groups perceived to be non-white or oppressed, most notably the Manchester Arena bombing where the government was more afraid of blowback against protected communites and threats to the status quo than they were about the fact that 23 people had just been murdered by a suicide bomber.
It doesn't actually matter that the suspect doesn't yet conform to the theist boat person stereotype. What matters is that enough people do not see this person as part of their ingroup and resent the fact this person has been brought into their country either to inflate the GDP graph or serve some impossible kumbayist phantasm of human unity. It is endlessly amusing to me that many left of centre commentators and politicans are citing the return of the EDL as the cause of this. The EDL is dead and has been for about a decade at this point. To me, this unrest is more remeniscient of the protests in Ireland around migrant housing that flare up whenever one of the occupants commits a crime.
*The remaining product is the fact it was 28-30 degrees here for most of this week and quite warm in the past few weeks, when the country only really functions at around 5-20 degrees and beyond that things start to break down.
Society vs Male Radicalisation II - Male Role Models/Surely This Time Our Plan Will Work
I was on the internet this week, and I found this:
Labour to help schools develop male influencers to combat Tate misogyny
It is interesting to note that there is an increasing shift towards talking about "role models" for young men and boys as a means of cooling the gender kerfuffle, rather than by repeating feminist talking points at males until they concede as was the case when I was a teenager. The Labour Party, the UK's apparent next government, has come up with policy to reduce the influence of Andrew Tate among schoolboys with the intended aim of safeguarding women and girls. It means to do this by creating counter role models to whom boys can look up to. This would not even the utterly embarrasing 30 year old boomers trying to guess what resonates with children, but would consist instead of older volunteer boys taken from within the same school. This if it is implemented, will have educators select the real life version of Will from Inbetweeners as its senior male role model and think themselves of sound mind for doing so. You are only ever going to get uncool loser types volunteering, and it is the fear of becoming an uncool loser (or worse) that motivates young men to go and consume manosphere content.
Feminism's defenders will counter that there are many existing role models available for men, often listing real or fictional people like Ryan Gosling, Marcus Rashford or Ted Lasso. These men are either fake or literal one percenters whose lifestyle an average young man has no hope of to attaining. This betrays a complete lack of understanding about why men choose the role models they do and how they attempt to emulate them. These role models are deliberately or implicitly chosen as role models for young men by people who aren't young men often because they display qualities that are useful, rather than valued, to society. This is because almost all policy dreamt up by institutions concerning Men and Boys is not to their benefit, but instead to neuter a perceived threat against Women, Girls and the wider society. For every Marcus Rashford, there are multiple Mason Greenwoods or Kurt Zoumas who continue to receive all the signifiers of male success and receive no punishment for any of their transgressions.
It is clear that what educational and social institutions want are meek, inoffensive and productive men who do not question the rules of society. This is in direct contrast to what young men want, which is to be outspoken, to be popular with women, to be socially and economically successful. No role model ever produced or selected by the state could manage this, particularly not when operating under the notion that it must maintain women's liberation, which itself requires the stifling of men. I question for how much longer this approach will be kept in place. There are hundreds of people like Andrew Tate across SM, each ready to teach boys what society is unable to teach them. Educators can more easily dispel Tate because of the sex trafficking offences and because Tate himself is a clown, but people like Hamza, whose lived experience is much closer to the boys he is trying to proselytize to than that of Tate's, they have no counterargument.
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2mo ago
Covid massively accelerated tribalism and polarisation in the offline and online worlds, and internet communities are no longer capable of existing without expelling dissidents to maintain coherence (and to lighten the workload on the tireless internet custodian who is paid very handsomely for his services.)
I can't even say I'm terribly sad about this. I would like for things to come to their inevitable conclusion sooner rather than later.
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10mo ago
I initially supported the popular response to COVID (lockdowns, school closures). I was completely and utterly wrong about this and I lament ever having had those opinions.
For me, it was probably Crusader Kings II.
This happened around halfway into the game's lifetime, with the Way of Life and Monks and Mystics expansions marking the transformation from a grounded feudal politics simulator into a wacky reddit screenshot generator, with a slew of event spam I had to download mods to turn off. This was further followed by expansions that expanded the map to include cultures and regions that weren't at all comparable to the european feudal system and in addition slowed the game down to a crawl.
I have barely looked at CKIII. Beyond the fact they've got to recreate and overhaul all of 2's features to make it worth my while, the game seems to be designed for people who loved horse popes and/or want to play Medieval Bridgerton. Everything else that bothered me about CK2 is still there: limited diplomacy, can't intervene between two vassals fighting especially when one of your vassals is directly related to you and countless other things.
This has happened in a few other games but CKII is where I saw it happening in real time.
In what is perhaps the first win Secularism has experienced in a long time, a high court judge has ruled against a challenge brought forward by a muslim pupil claiming that lack of prayer rooms at hier school were a substantial opposition to her faith. The judge's reasoning is that the school explicitly advertised itself as secular and would not permit certain activities in an attempt to minise friction between pupils. This outcome was accomplished in spite of threats and bomb scares made to the school and criminal damage to both the school and a few of the homes of the staff who worked there.
Michaela Community School is not a typical institution, hence why it was not only able to fight back against Islamists, but also win. Situated in a particularly deprived part of London, it boasts extremely successful grades compared to not only the borough but the wider country as a whole. It accomplishes this through rules many consider extreme, including no talking in corridors, demerits for failing to remove your book from your bag and flip to the correct page in under 10 seconds and mirrors removed from bathrooms in order to avoid distractions.
Its head, Katharine Birbalsingh, is not a typical educator. An Indo-Guyanese woman and once a Conservative advisor for social mobility, her comments on education, society and the role of its members routinely antagonise left of centre commentators. Michaela is a free school, indepedent of the local authority and thus she is immunised against potential attempts by that local authority and other insitutions to instill accepted views into her school. This is I think a large part of why she won - she ultimately only answers to herself and those parents in her community who are in favour of her school and the way she runs it, and can thus ignore detractors in a way that an LEA controlled, union dependent teacher can't.
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7mo ago
Kitboga has done immense damage to India's reputation
Thanks to him, I cannot think about the word "redeem" without automatically associating it with India.
I wonder if the yelling scammer guy is aware of his own popularity.
A friend and I were talking about the changing attitude about the way games are made, marketed and sold to consumers by corpos. A very interesting question was asked that I'd like to repost here:
When was the first time you saw something that made you realise "I am no longer the target audience" for something you used to love? This needn't apply to games, it can be anything you took part in and enjoyed doing but no longer do due to the thing being changed beyond your power.
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1yr ago
We have now had a parliamentary crisis of procedure over a remote dispute between two combatants who have little to no social or material relation to this country. The giga blackpill feed forcibly attached to my veins continues to deliver.
A comparatively small handful of Islamo-lefists were able to overturn the policy of the opposition party through threats of violence and intimidation against a handful of elected politicians and get it to completely agree with its goals in about 5 months of persistent activity. Granted, they had help from the sympathetic media class, but even then the rate of change is incredible. In most other unpopular decisions (the Iraq war, Brexit) the British state largely plowed ahead and either ignored or steamrolled over public outrage. The only loss they've ever taken was on Poll Tax.
The outcome of this is that threats and violence have been proven to work in an established, mature democracy. I expect this trend to continue.
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11mo ago
I don't think neckbeard shaming ever really left. The terms just changed to something that could not be used to directly attack a person's appearance. Low status men were still free game.
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10mo ago
For reference, we have had only one incident that could be tied to incel ideology in the past few years. The incident itself was notable for a reason not often discussed, namely that it could have been prevented if a public servant had done their job correctly.
I think it's apparent that the existence of incels scares the shit out of centre-left/left aligned women, particularly those in the public sector. Potential threats of violence aside, the incel memeplex provides powerful competition to the worldview put forward by the predominantly liberal society, which encourages meekness, reassigns social failings concerning men to individual ones and denies their lived reality. Shutting down this memeplex and ensuring the young man conforms to the expected view (even if the young man in question refuses to deny the evidence of their eyes and ears) is of paramount importance, as the young man is only in school for about 6 hours a day but is exposed to online and offline belief systems for the rest of his time.
This suggested policy is stupid. We already have Prevent, which by itself does nothing and is a glorified list of potential terrormen that is written to but apparent never read, given that every news article I read about a lone wolf attacker he is almost always "known to authorities." I have written on this subject before, and in that time I see that absolutely nothing has changed. Educators, politicians and journalists will continue to misdiagnose the problem and suggest nonsensical solutions.
I have come to the conclusion that the term as currently used is indescribably useless. Where once you had a number of conditions (autism, aspergers, PDD-NOS), there is now the one condition that covers an absolutely massive array of people with all sorts of different personalities, capabilities and needs. Yes, we now have levels in their place but they almost never enter discussion. Instead, the only differentiation comes between "high support needs" and "low support needs". In conversation however, this is almost always dropped - everytime someone mentions an autistic person, or autistic people, or themselves, one is usually referring to either of these groups, implicitly disregarding the other.
My view is that is we have a number of neurological differences that are grouped together under a single diagnosis, like a super venn diagram with multiple concentric circles, and a person can potentially appear in multiple places in the diagram. This means that it is possible for two people to technically be diagnosed with autism and have a minimal overlap of symptoms, or indeed any traits in common. This poses a number of problems. Firstly, normies expect the term to describe a specific kind of person and get confused/accuse you of lying when you say that you have that condition. Secondly, what paltry assistance you might receive is not tailored to your traits and so is useless. Thirdly, any spaces that might exist for you on paper in practise contain people who have nothing in common with you whatsoever.
Beyond that however, I think we have also expanded the definition to include borderlines (people who might have had one or two traits to a minimal degree that wouldn't have previously qualified) and the disability is being further co-opted by progressive, terminally online neurotypicals to ascend the progressive stack. In addition, we have massively damaged the development of children through lockdowns, so who knows if their brain is actually wired that way.
Personally, I do not know where my own endlessly entertaining brain disease comes from. I am inclined to think that I am one of those people who has it inflicted on them by GOD, THE VIOLATOR as a joke. The only familial link I have is a great uncle who was diagnosed with a number of learning disabilities in his youth (including dyxlexia) but towards the end of his life at some point received a diagnosis of autism. My mum and dad are both normal, my dad excessively so. My brother is "weird" but for the most part neurotypical, and any weirdness I think he accrued from me while growing up.
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1yr ago
The UK seems to have an extreme version of the humanist slave morality that is in fashion across the west (this stated reason being given by Ian Hislop for why he wouldn't publish the Charlie Hebdo cartoons, as it would be "punching down"). It is the prevailing viewpoint of most people who work for the civil service, as well as the centrist or left wing media class. Dom Cummings once pointed out that the people who live or work in the SW1 postcode care immensely about their perception among their peers. Unlike the US, there is no temporing influence among anyone in power - all major parties largely agree on the same things, with the sole difference being that tories pretend to be right wing in order to win the vote of ultra-right shire boomers, who never seem to notice that the tories don't deliver anything they promise.
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3mo ago
The Incredibles
Technically, Bob's relation with his family is somewhat dysfunctional and goes up and down throughout the film until they work together at the end.
Finally, I don't mind being autistic, but I do think autism is an illness. The overly systematic way of thinking, the need to be "correct" and find the "truth"
I dislike my own autistic weaknesses (hypersensitivity to senses and rejection among them) and would shed them if I had the chance, but the one part I am genuinely thankful for is that I have so called "black and white thinking" (or, as I like to call it, having principles). I am amazed humanity developed any sense of indvidualism at all because the majority of people I see are herd followers and comply with any number of nonsensical things in order for the perceived security they get at great cost sometimes to their own personal fulfillment.
Neitzsche does not advocate for a retvrn to ye olden days where man only focussed on the superficial and the vibes. The end result of focusing on that would result in a world full of deanos, a terrible place where the Last Man reigns supreme and humankind cannot advance. His ideal was a merging of the master and slave moralities and something greater yet to come.
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1yr ago
I voted SDP. Though they are the literally who party, and the various minor joke parties all came ahead of them where I live, it was the only time where I've ever voted and experienced zero hesitation when putting an "x" on the ballot.
Labour's victory was invetiable, given the electorate's love of the colours red and blue. For their performance over the past 2 years, the tories won far too many seats. This is probably to be expected, given the demographic makeup of the country and the top heavy age pyramid. More worryingly is the rise of the green party and a number of Members for Gaza, who are functionally a proxy for political islamism in Britain that neither of the big two have really got a handle on.
I do not expect things to improve in meaningfully in any way, given that Labour is 99% the pensions ponzi scheme party that the tories are. I at least take solace in that Farage won his seat and that the SNP have been utterly blown out, all over their chosen star buying an illegal camper van and her replacement shitting the bed at every possible opportunity.
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11mo ago
I think BC is a real person and I think his disdain of us and the values we possess is genuine, as his desire to reinstate a antiquity era moral phantasm over what we have now.
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2yr ago
When I was 16, I and every other boy in my RS class was made to stand up and recieve chastisement by our then RS teacher, who proclaimed that the world was made for us, by people like us (my school was 99% white working class), that we had it the easiest out of any group of people and that we had a duty to right this imbalance. This is not my lived experience (though I attribute that to my undiagnosed and untreated autism), and it is broadly not the lived experience of young men, who have worse outcomes than their fathers and are expected their bear the dwindling of their piece of the socioeconomic pie and the societal narrative that this is not so with a smile on their face.
And frankly, given the events of the pandemic, I am not so convinced that there is a large divide between the British and Chinese states.
The political and educational establishment and those who share their views fail to adequeately diagnose the problem. This is primarily because they can't understand the experience of being young men and have zero interest in doing so. Indeed, every "men are doing badly" talking point is always discussed from perspective of its negative second order effects, mostly in relation to women. Starmer's gushing over this is indicative of naive confidence. He thinks the essence of the problem has finally been captured, and so do all the left of center opinion pieces on this show that were written shortly after its release. Frankly, it all feels a bit coreographed...
I have written about this before, once three years ago and once last year and I haven't seen anything to suggest that they've learned a single thing since then. There is nothing new to write about under the sun. I want to volunteer myself as a consultant to the government on the manosphere and how its influence might be curbed, purely because I cannot handle the unending nonsense coming from my computer screen and I would like it to stop.
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