Botond173
15hr ago
I've long concluded that it's largely impossible to have a clear-headed, rational conversation about these issues with women.
Men ran away as fast as they could from marriage and child-rearing during the Sexual Revolution.
Where's the evidence for this? For your argument to be true, stats would have to prove that men were filing the majority of divorces and were the ones driving the overall delay of marriage and parenthood. As far as I can tell, the opposite of this is actually true.
Botond173
16hr ago
Normie hetero men aren’t likely to make a real attempt to bone pubescent girls even if they happen to have a strong urge to. But it’s not such normie men who usually rise to the higher levels of political power. It’s in fact something that psychopaths are likely to pursue. Also, the exercise of political power is ultimately a collective act. Nobody can seize and exert power on his own, he’ll need people he can trust. And a group cannot exercise political power unless they all hold one another in check and there is a tangible risk of penalties for betraying that group. Hence politicians are incentivized to work with and recruit other politicians who have dirt on them.
Botond173
3d ago
Is it because of the obnoxious true crime nerd wine moms, or due to other reasons?
Botond173
3d ago
There was a post here a while back linking to an unpleasant and depresing anti-children essay talking about how the fertility crisis is inevitable when women are allowed to choose freely (link: https://kryptogal.substack.com/p/the-fertility-crisis-is-inevitable).
I searched for the blogger's name. It seems to be this discussion initiated by @Hoffmeister25.
Either way the name "Investigative Committee For a Future with Children" is probably rather based in a Swedish context.
Botond173
3d ago
Agreed. Either way, what's important in the context of the discussion at hand is that this was hardly a case of a pretty young woman getting particularly targeted and killed for political reasons.
Botond173
3d ago
I’m more or less familiar with the official/mainstream theory. I was wondering why ThenElection disbelieves it and what his alternative theory is. I guess my comment was poorly worded.
Botond173
4d ago
Is your argument that women instinctively escape from violent men, presumably into the embrace of nonviolent men? Because I've never seen evidence of this.
Botond173
4d ago
I'd say most of the cases that get interpreted as online radicalization, online bullying / cyberbullying and online stalking/harassment / cyberstalking in mainstream media are in fact real-life phenomena, and the extent to which they have an online component is of secondary importance. That is, the victim/target is normally affected by the actions and words of people he or she personally knows, and interacts with in real life.
Botond173
4d ago
Are you referring to the theory that the Manson family were actually hired assassins?
Botond173
4d ago
Maybe this 2002 study:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1124155/
It was posted once in the old subreddit.
Botond173
4d ago
In the 1970s, we had lots and lots of murders in a world with 1970s trauma medicine. Our current murder rate is not backstopped by 1970s trauma medicine.
You know I've seen this argument repeated by commenters on Steve Sailer's blog and I wondered: there have to be statistics out there that'd let us correct for the impact of radically advanced trauma medicine on the murder rate. Surely someone can calculate, say, what is the ratio of gangbangers who get shot but end up getting saved through surgery?
Botond173
5d ago
Why wouldn’t they still be symbolic and non lethal? What’s changed on that front?
Ongoing political radicalization in echo chambers, I suppose?
Botond173
5d ago
So your argument is that violent leftist groups are sufficiently deterred?
Botond173
5d ago
Has there ever been a politically motivated assassination of a young pretty white woman in the US?
Botond173
5d ago
They might not have been celebrities but were nevertheless fairly well-known, at least in certain social circles.
Botond173
5d ago
On a different note I’d argue that this was probably not politically motivated on grounds that people generally comprehend that women, especially young and pretty ones, make very poor targets of publicized political assassinations from a PR perspective.
Botond173
5d ago
I assume this may have something to do with Reddit being generally more optimized for use on desktops instead of smartphones and tablets, because people are increasingly accessing online content on the latter.
Botond173
5d ago
Whatever we're slipping into will definitely be worse than the Days of Rage. The great majority of leftist terrorist acts in that period were nonlethal and symbolic bombings and abductions; this will definitely not be the case this time. Also the Days of Rage took place in a country that was much more homogenous ethnically and religiously, where civic nationalism was a much bigger social factor than today.
On what basis, may I ask?
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