Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
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Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
8mo ago
You know that the Russian military is trying to wipe out a European ethnic group/nation like, right now?
I didn't know that. Can you elaborate?
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
11mo ago
Russia has to spend blood and treasure to secure the rest of Ukraine. We just have to spend treasure to make their cost go up! And we’ve decided the exchange rate looks pretty good.
Who's "we", and what was the calculus? Because I have a strong suspicion that the "we" is just seething third-generation Russian emigrants still mad that great-grandpa was run off the shetl, lobbying and donating until the US's pay-for-play foreign policy let's them use America like a golem to smash their ancestral enemy.
I'm a citizen of the West and certainly no-one asked me about sending all my money to Kiev.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
8mo ago
If you would have grown 5%, but due to X you only grow 4%, then 1% of growth has been destroyed.
Butlerian
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11mo ago
This doesn't apply to insta/tiktok/etc models.
Doesn't it?
I mean, obviously the median woman with an Instagram account doesn't need to post Instagram bikini pics to to able to afford bread. But human beings have other requirements, like high-value mates. How do you think (or how does she think) she's going to get one of those without some kind of self-promotion?
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
11mo ago
When or if reaction comes, it will have to feel as natural as say, supporting Ukraine.
...which is to say, not natural at all and entirely the product of MSM narrative-craft and bot astroturfing?
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
11mo ago
I love this comment as a glittering example of "Comes so close to noticing but then the crimestop kicks in"
To wit: don't you think it a little... suspicious... that the """reports from IRL""" that your news media pipes you from Ukraine, map so neatly into the tropes you've been fed for decades from your entertainment?
Does that not strike you as a little, err, improbable to be an organic occurrance?
(So no-one accuses me of not speaking plainly: I am forwarding this as circumstantial evidence that Western reporting from the Ukraine War is very, very contaminated by Western attempts to narrative craft it into the pre-prepared slot in the Western psyche of "Just like my Indiana Jones movies".)
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
11mo ago
the near-total absence of, not only anti-war sentiment, but of any consideration of foreign policy at all, from 2023 leftism.
A trillion dollars sent to Ukraine isn't foreign policy to you?
Butlerian
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1mo ago
Is the scale impractical? Is the expense impractical?
I'm pretty certain it's this? I get the sense that mass incarceration + deprogramming + filtering out fifth columnists would be about a million times more expensive than just shooting everyone. And also wouldn't work. Western governments at least try to filter their immigrants for "not psycho killers" but lo and behold, you still get machete beheadings and trucks of peace every other month on the streets of London & Paris.
Say what you want about just making political undesirables dig their own trench and then shooting them en masse in the back of the head a'la Katyn, but that is at least affordable.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
2mo ago
He was in the equivalent of a supermax prison.
...in a country with a smaller economy than Italy's (notorious for losing mafia bosses from supermax). Russia can't afford to secure its jails from determined infiltrators.
Butlerian
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6mo ago
Israel shouldn't lose points for preventing more Israelis from being killed and this making this comparison look bad.
How do you feel about the sentencing for murder being different from the sentencing for conspiracy?
Butlerian
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7mo ago
You're omitting a rather large confounding variable here, namely that the people who aren't deterred by cigarette packaging are addicts who have had their neurological pathways chemically remapped in order to be compelled to purchase the product. Not so with "Breaded soy for frying".
Butlerian
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10mo ago
Just as plenty of Americans who illegally aided the IRA during the troubles were loyal to the US.
This is oxymoronic. If you violate the policies and laws of the government, you are by definition disloyal.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
11mo ago
I ask you not to move the goalposts. Nobody was discussing such other requirements here.
Well I certainly was, and given that I wrote the post to which you are responding, I can assure you that the goalposts remain exactly where I first placed them. My point about working in the wagie cubes was intended to refer to the broad class of "activities engaged in grudgingly" rather than the specific class of "activities engaged in out of purely economic necessity". Revealed preferences need not always refer to the revealed preferences of one's employment.
But with that out of the way:
It feels strange for me to be whiteknighting career e-thots, but I still think your reasoning is flawed. Let's say Job A contains upside 1 and downside 2, while Job B contains upside 3 and upside 4. And let's say the magnitudes of the upsides and downsides run 1 > 2 >> 3 > 4. Job 1 has big upsides and big downsides compared to either in Job B, but in both cases the upside exceeds the downside so you do actually want the job (more than unemployment). That you stick with Job A despite REALLY hating downside 2 is testament to the advantage of upside 1, not that you actually, secretly, masochistically enjoy downside 2.
To but some colour to these scenarios: Job A is Instathot, upside 1 is simpbux, downside 2 is "constant thirstposting in her comments", Job B is office worker, upside 3 is mediocre salary bux, and downside 4 is the anomie of regular office work.
In this rubric we see that it is logically possible that Instathots do not in fact appreciate the drool and asparagus emojis they get in their DMs, but they're willing to put up with it to live the high life. Whether they have any moral right to complain about it is another question - they have signed the Faustian Pact and bought themselves tropical holidays with it, it seems therefore petty to whine that the devil will inevitably take his due. But do they like having to hold up their side of the contract? Well, no-one I know has ever enjoyed holding up their side of a contract, so I can believe that they do, in fact, not, and are just in it for the (lots of) money.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
11mo ago
I liked the second book because of how ridiculously misogynistic it is.
The third book goes so soft sci-fi it breaks my suspension of disbelief.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
11mo ago
Also, there's a distinction between bullshit jobs that are de-facto jobs programs, and those that arise as a necessary consequence of poor regulation and incentives.
Do please elaborate how you make this distinction.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
6mo ago
have an internal party vote and then everyone is bound to vote for the winner on the floor of Congress or they get expelled from the party.
I was under the impression that this was a specific trait of Leninist parties, which might contain the answer as to why the US Republicans don't do it.
Butlerian
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10mo ago
The whole point of the comment I was replying to was to speculate on why the toxoplasma hasn't flared. Considering then discarding the reasons it could flare is proof by exhaustion, not waging Culture War.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
10mo ago
Neither is the average grad student, or Indian call center employee, they just mindlessly regurgitate whatever is fed to them by their professors/supervisors.
Yes, but this is an argument for morally valuing useless demographics less, not for morally valuing babies more.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
10mo ago
How do you figure that? In the case of abortion the mother has presumably agreed to the procedure
If you can do an abortion without the father's permission why can't you do it without the mother's permission?
...being the exact train of thought they don't want you to start down.
Butlerian
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11mo ago
Given that Britains war aims were essentially to keep the continent pretty much as it was before the war and preserve the balance of power in Europe
"We want Austria-Hungary to keep oppressing everyone because the status quo is profitable to our top-hat class" is not exactly my definition of Just War.
Butlerian
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11mo ago
(remember that the military, the police, small-town local elites, organised religion and Fox News are all objectively part of the establishment)
This can't be a general rule - look how often establishments get military coup'd in Africa. Do you mean specifically in America 2023?
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
11mo ago
Women buy an exceedingly large number of excessively expensive swimsuits. Do you have an explanation why?
Perhaps they know that they live in an attention economy, even as they wish they did not? They think it would be better if they were valued for their opinions and not their curves, but alas, it is not so.
(Also I don't think they're spending their own money on those swimsuits)
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
10mo ago
This case, if true, is obviously tragic.
It's the "if" that should make it a scissor statement. It is very difficult to prove "medical murder", and therefore reasonable people may disagree on the implications of this case. The feminists could insist that Letby is a victim of a misogynistic society determined to punish women, and doctors / hospital managers are trying to use her as a scapegoat for systemic failures in the healthcare system. While on the other side...
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...ok maybe that's why there's no toxoplasma around this. What bloc is going to be a loud comment section partisan for "Yes she did kill all those babies"? Misogynists who do want to blame women for everything are a boogieman that don't actually exist, so who is there to fill up the Internet for the prosecution?
This is a very... American diagnosis of the European psyche.
Europe is smaller, and more crowded than America. And psychologically, Europeans are used to implacable hatred of everyone in the next valley. So 1000km away to a European may as well be on the moon. It is as much "not worth worrying about" as 13000km is to an American. So as far as agenda-setting of national policies goes, Russia may as well be as distant and irrelevant to European countries as it is from the USA.
Estonia, maybe, has cause for concern. But the Western European nations who are gun-running to Kiev? They have zero legitimate interest in Ukraine, just like America.
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