Some do, sure. But there's no such thing as "Asian ethnic interests" - why Vietnamese, Indians, Koreans, Chinese, Sikh and Indonesians would have the same interests? I've met many people of different Asian descent, and they had very varied interests - I can't imagine how a single group would be able to represent them.
First generation yes. As you get further from the original immigration, people are much more likely to form pan-ethnic support groups for 'people who look kind of like me and have my kinds of issues'. A second-generation Indonesian is quite likely to feel they have a lot common with the second-generation Taiwanese and Japanese boys who can relate to overbearing parents, not really fitting in with your customs from the old place and the fact that white girls don't seem to go for Asian men, or whatever. Especially as they start marrying each other within that group.
Not in all cases, certainly, but in enough to matter.
(India and Sikh etc. are more different. I would expect to end up with a generic East Asian identity rather than anything).
Corvos
15d ago
The fact is that you almost never see homeless in Tokyo. I was asked for money perhaps three times in six years of living there. My understanding is that Japanese homeless are much more tractable than American homeless and the government mostly pays to keep them housed without too much trouble.
Corvos
15d ago
Maybe. The numbers show that the economics aren’t working in Europe, and various parties have turned against it. Even the Left wing in the UK is nominally against it though for various of the reasons stated it hasn’t actually done very much.
Whether this is downstream of the economics not working out or other factors is hard to say.
Corvos
15d ago
I don't know why I keep getting replies which assume that I agree with this position when I specifically began my second paragraph with "Let this not be mistaken for a pro-open-borders argument on my part"
Not doing this is surprisingly hard. But also, people just want to state their objections for the record, it's not necessarily aimed at you.
Corvos
15d ago
I see you have watched the famous anime
(Not quite! But surprisingly close.)
There is much to what you say. It is also true that various leftists have, in unguarded moments, given much much more cynical arguments for immigration. For example, in the Blairite government in the UK:
Mr Neather was a speech writer who worked in Downing Street for Tony Blair and in the Home Office for Jack Straw and David Blunkett, in the early 2000s.
Writing in the Evening Standard, he revealed the "major shift" in immigration policy came after the publication of a policy paper from the Performance and Innovation Unit, a Downing Street think tank based in the Cabinet Office, in 2001.
He wrote a major speech for Barbara Roche, the then immigration minister, in 2000, which was largely based on drafts of the report.
He said the final published version of the report promoted the labour market case for immigration but unpublished versions contained additional reasons, he said.
He wrote: "Earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.
"I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn't its main purpose – to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date."
(Emphasis mine)
The Left support for immigration is a confusing mixture of:
- compassion towards immigrants
- cultural xenophilia and a desire for local non-native cultural enrichment
- economic beliefs that high immigration improves GDP and living standards
- a political belief that immigrants will support the leftists who are their allies
- discomfort with preventing immigrants getting what they want
- dislike of common reasons given by the right for opposing immigration - nationalism, anti-xenophilia, crime, religious differences
- discomfort following chains of thoughts that might lead to 5 or 6, and concern for the social consequences of doing so where their friends can hear it
- mistaken beliefs about the costs of immigration resulting from an ability to externalise them (e.g. the anger when immigrants were bussed to Martha's Vineyard and New York, the fact that lots of immigrants either work in the service industry or in warehouses)
I think it's important to point out as you are doing that people genuinely believe 1-3, but it's also fair to point out that darker motives 4-8 also exist and are not invalidated by 1-3.
Corvos
16d ago
Fair enough. I haven’t had an intimate relationship and it may just be that I don’t understand how visceral jealousy can be.
I’m also used to ‘projecting’ myself - I have written dialogues with myself to make decisions or talk through problems.
Corvos
16d ago
Not me in the 'I would happily commit suicide because I'll still be alive' sense, but me in the 'exactly the same in every way' sense. Different consciousnesses but otherwise identical. And I would feel love and warmth towards him because it's the closest possible relation you can have with someone.
You might worry about divergence over the next 10, 20, 50 years but even then it would be like having a very identical twin.
Corvos
16d ago
It's not relevant right now, and my feelings might change once it is, but I don't see why not. It's me. Being jealous of yourself seems silly. Especially since I know the other me wouldn't be jealous either, so it's not like I need to worry about him going behind my back. I am the one person in the world I genuinely, absolutely trust.
Corvos
16d ago
I don't know if it's a mark of emotional health or the opposite, but I would love to have another me around the place. Like anyone, I spend lots of time in my own company anyway, I would expect me to understand me better and cooperate with me better than anyone.
DS3 is when you say ‘fuck it, this is definitely the last one but we can at least do it well’, and you get back the reluctant Lords of Cinder (Miyazaki-san and the team who worked on Bloodborne) and squeeze out whatever is left for one last hurrah.
It’s the end of Dark Souls but you feel that something new will come along one day and that’s enough to lift your spirits a bit…
Your modus ponens is my modus tollens, though: if the vibes don't match the stats, then either the vibes are wrong or the stats are wrong/irrelevant.
For example, looking specifically at that patent page, do you really believe that innovation from 2010 to 2020 was 2x or 3x the innovation between 1870 and 1990?
Corvos
17d ago
Agreed. Although they make a half-hearted attempt to pin it on 'Mr. Trump' for reducing the level of official deliberation required for these missions, this story is broadly:
- Something I didn't know.
- Something I would have liked to know.
Kudos to the NYT.
Corvos
17d ago
In all serious, I think it's mostly down to goodish users and robust moderation, especially in avoiding #2.
Corvos
17d ago
On the flip side, arguably the most prominent leader, in the whole worldwide pushback against trans, is an Irish woman.
JK Rowling? She's English, born in Gloucestershire. Parents also English, though with Scottish ancestry and on naval posting in Scotland for some time.
Fair. I would consider ‘no meaningful political or extra-political power’ as ‘quelled’ but that’s really quibbling over semantics.
Without that threat, the geographical sortition that has been ongoing for well-over a decade should make it possible to simply allow them to stew in their own shitholes
I would say this is optimistic. The fact remains that the high-paying and high-status jobs are all in Blue areas and are likely to remain so. Your children and their children are likely to have to grapple with some level of Blue domination for as long as this is the case, although having a reliable bolt hole might make this more comfortable.
Corvos
17d ago
I believe that the problem is Blues; if it were possible to coordinate with Blacks and Browns against them, that would be an entirely acceptable outcome. Browns and Blacks are a problem to the degree they empower Blues; if blue power is broken, disputes with blacks and browns are solvable in any number of ways.
But, if I’m reading you correctly, ultimately your end goal is to form a regional society of people who share your moral intuitions. If Blacks and Browns refuse to relinquish Blueness, or at any rate refuse to become sufficiently compatible with your Redness, doesn’t that mean you will either have to quell them or expel them? And if so, isn’t TDJ just skipping the middle steps?
What solutions were you envisaging?
Corvos
19d ago
The trans people went after him hard for making a very funny episode about an MtF trans person before such things were sensitive. It's both very unkind and rather touching, but in any case the trans complex went after it hard.
At the risk of impromptu psychoanalysing, Graham Linehan has always been on the winning side of the culture wars before: Father Ted affectionately but firmly took the piss out of the Catholic Church just as it was dying out in Ireland and while neither Black Books nor the IT Crowd are exactly politically correct, everyone was in no doubt that their author was basically sound politically.
Then suddenly that got turned around on him and I think it was a big shock. All that time being a feminist and so on and suddenly the winds change and he goes from being universally feted to standing with the baddies. I can imagine that being pretty shattering.
Corvos
19d ago
Try Charlie Hopkins:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyJrI7fwl_bP2ZUBhVxJpQJgKHf8RX4Or&feature=shared
It's complicated. They can't protect from depredations by more advanced neighbours, so in that sense no. But they aren't necessarily competing for the same type of resources. 'Produces food if you leave them alone' isn't the worst civilisation trait to have in a neighbour but it depends on whether you are Nuclear Gandhi.
Not just computers. If conscious experience (qualia) is just an innate consequence of information being processed*, regardless of the substrate upon which that occurs, then e.g. a sundial must be very faintly self-aware.
*And just asserting that doesn't give any actual insight into how qualia arise or work
Prohibition was as much feminism and public order as it was religious though. Probably more.
The main complaints about alcohol were that drunks were beating their wives, neglecting their wives, and/or being disorderly on the street and slovenly at the workplace.
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