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So you agree that your comment is misleading...? Like, I'm not talking about Tracing here. I don't know why you are.

You just spent weeks digging through old grievances dating back a decade

Either it is an old grievance or it is an ongoing problem. Whatever Tracing wrote has no impact on this.

I think the way to rescue this is to hold that a person has privileged insight into their own gender but can still be mistaken.

The existence of post-transition trans people who are by their account much less in conflict with their gender perception demonstrates that that there is sometimes privileged insight that is true, or at least beneficial to assume. The existence of trans people who detransition doesn't disprove the existence of those people, it merely establishes that the correlation isn't perfect.

I mean, I could turn around and say if you knew that somebody was planning something nefarious but couldn't prove it, "accidentally" releasing the passwords to the public is also a clever way to increase common knowledge of the attack vector, thus making it more likely that people will look in the right place during the investigation.

It had been previously established that it was entirely acceptable for mobs to declare themselves sovereign from local, state and federal law enforcement, and to enforce this claim by burning police stations and courthouses, denying access to the actual police, arming themselves with rifles and shooting people in the street.

I think there's still a big difference in kind between effectively micro-secessionism and fucking with the election. One is an attack on one area of a city, the other is an attack on the entire country.

To me it's not a matter of category but scale. And micro-secessionism does not affect the rest of the country, whereas fucking with the election does.

However, nonetheless, even when you think somebody's position implies something you shouldn't say that they believe that thing. I think that's in the rules? And humans don't really work that way to start with.

Compromise: Move MLK day to October and put the election on it. I'm sure the Reverend would be fine with it. Republicans are happy because it doesn't create a new holiday and also it reduces the stature given to a black guy, Democrats are happy because black people and minorities get time off to vote and also it ties MLK even more tightly into the civic mythos, plus they can put pictures of him up in the voting room.

Okay, I'm not 100% sure what you're saying here, but none of it seems to have anything to do with what I said on the object level.

Just as it's misleading to dismiss criticisms Tracing's conduct during and since the LibOfTikTok affair as old grudge, given that a part of the bad behavior was the non-repentance, which is itself ongoing behavior.

So...? That's not a counterargument. Misleading comments or misleading articles don't justify misleading responses here. An ongoing problem is not an old grievance.

But it does still provide a non-tariff trade barrier (i.e. is a protectionist policy) against potentially more competitive imports.

I mean, I just feel like... every regulation, including fraud and food safety, is a protectionist policy against potentially more competitive imports, isn't it? If you have too much arsenic in the imported orange juice or whatever, then if the customer would usually not notice this immediately and correct course, then the restriction on selling the orange juice is, from a pure market perspective, a trade barrier against competition. I think at some line, and arguably "champagne from Australia" is across that line, you have to say "no, fraud is not legitimate competition actually."

Personally speaking I don't think about it because I believe AI kills us first.

Well sure, but it's still wrong to say that baptists are pro-smuggling.

If I find examples of people who do appear to be claiming that men can be women per se, would you change your mind? For example, people who insist that someone who was universally regarded as a man ten years ago is in the present a woman

But this is arguing that "universal regard" is the definition of gender. Those sorts of assumptions are exactly what is being disagreed with. That's why there's "assigned gender at birth".

There has been a lot written about hallucination because some people want chatbots to be worse than they are. With experience you can generally tell when you are asking a question that a LLM will hallucinate about.

Also, note how smoothly criticism of Israel has become criticism of Jews instead.

In every other situation that'd be true, but saying "Israel is a country of Jews" is hardly antisemitism, more tautology.

Out of interest, do you think that a mars base is sci-fi? It's been discussed in science fiction for a long time.

I think any predictions about the future that assume new technology are "science fiction" p much by definition of the genre, and will resemble it for the same reason: it's the same occupation. Sci-fi that isn't just space opera ie. "fantasy in space", is inherently just prognostication with plot. Note stuff like Star Trek predicting mobile phones, or Snowcrash predicting Google Earth: "if you could do it, you would, we just can't yet."

The only thing I ever saw Apple commenting on is the first one. Did they say it's technically unfeasible to build a surveilable phone anywhere? Cause that's dumb.

The disagreement is: having made a phone that works this way, it is now technically infeasible to search it. It was not technically infeasible to build the phone another way, but Apple also never claimed that. After all, they did this deliberately, as a sales pitch.

Good point!

But then the point of "satanic religions of old", for a Christian, would be equivalent to saying "religions of old", surely? Because there is only one God, so every non-judaic religion is either fraudulent or satanic. Or is it "the set of religions considered demon-worshipping by the OT Israelites"?

Or is the argument more something like "LGBT has become like Molechism"?

No I don't think so.

It sounds like you're not saying "we know they did" but "well they would have, wouldn't they." IMO we actually cannot safely assume that at all.

I mean, they aren't? The Bible does not to my knowedge list any old religion that worships Satan. The only Satan-worshippers show up in Revelation.

Particularly for instance Moloch is not said to be identical with Satan.

Also, here's Claude Sonnet (AI):

The Israelites would more likely have seen Molech as:

  • A false god (but still a distinct entity)
  • A "demon" or "shedim" (as mentioned in Deuteronomy 32:17)
  • Simply "an abomination"

The strong identification of pagan deities with Satan seems to have developed more in later theological traditions, particularly in Christian interpretation.

Which matches my knowledge.

I have no good opinion on that. I think it's a novel thing, so I can't reason about it by analogy, and I don't think it can be considered accounted for under the law in any sort of originalist reasoning or even at all. I think it's a thing where we just have to make up our minds and decide what we want from scratch.

I think netstack literally means "not being the actual person Donald Trump".

I don't need a scientific study to prove that fat people tend to perform worse on typical willpower tasks like "don't eat a second piece of pie, even though you want to and you know it will be bad for you."

Of course, it's then very possible that their failure is wanting it more, not resisting it less.

I think the real answer here is "do not under any circumstances allow a party to win all three organs of government."

Giving him 22 years for seditious conspiracy would make sense were he say, a National Guard colonel whose troops arrested the entire senate and occupied the building for days.

Okay, I honestly agree with the rest of the comment, but if there's anything that a state should have a death sentence for, surely it's that. Like, at that point it's not even a question of law and order but of naked self-preservation.

I guess the argument would be that life creates an incentive against killing the senate? Hard to say where the stand-off factor is there. This is not exactly a common occurrence, so maybe going all the way to maximal deterrence is fine actually.