Hadad
1mo ago
Nonsense. It's par for the course for US politicians to support Israel over Palestine, and it's also par for the course for people to say that's a genocide.
Hadad
1mo ago
The problem is US leaders consistently failing to identify the real problem or lay out appropriate goals. Bombing can't nation-build. The US needs to utterly abandon its desire to nation build, to spread democracy, etc., etc. It doesn't work. What it can do is keep a non-nuclear power in the stone age with overwhelming violence.
Hadad
1mo ago
That depends entirely on who's making the decisions, I think. I'm going to vote for people who are okay with destroying our enemies.
Hadad
1mo ago
Yes, Iran and not-Iran have different wants and incentives This is quite typical.
Hadad
1mo ago
History shows us that when Christianity was in fact being tried, we did in fact have better outcomes on a whole host of relevant metrics to the people yearning for Christianity. It was Christianity's decline, not ascent, that was accompanied by the degradation of society.
Hadad
1mo ago
At what point do you think the US military asks Ted Cruz for population estimates in order to plan the next bomber run?
Hadad
1mo ago
You yourself got +15 upvotes saying things that I thought were quite uncool, and very right coded. I was with you for the first half, but "The more pain and terror inflicted in the process" and "I want the fascistcore club music as a squad of red-visored faceless commandos mow down the rioters waving Mexican flags." are things I think should get you disqualified from being taken seriously on the topic. I don't mean that as a personal attack (I'm sure you're a kind person to your friends and loved ones, etc) but holy shit dude, what the fuck? The fact that anyone (let alone a voting majority) agreed with you is a pretty clear demonstration of ideological lean here. If you posted this on reddit (obviously quite left leaning) you'd be at -100 and probably banned to boot.
No offense taken, much like how you'll not be offended by the obvious retort coming up: your disapproval genuinely means nothing to me. You're right that Reddit would not allow this, as Reddit only supports violent fantasizing when it's directed toward the right. Replace "criminals and illegals" with "law-abiding Republican voters", and they'll foam at the mouth in support.
And yes, I got fifteen upvotes. I expressed myself plainly, took a hard stance, and stood by it. You can do similar! You'll find great success if you use the right tone and style. These sorts of posts, where you passively complain and snip at people, will almost always encourage a pile-on. Nobody likes snivelers.
Lastly, I'd strongly encourage you to not mistake "lack of progressives" with "abundance of right-wing". Almost everyone here hates progressives and progressivism. That's why they're disaffected liberals.
Hadad
1mo ago
I don't think there being a billion Chinamen is the reason we don't nuke China. Them already having nukes is the big obstacle there.
Hadad
1mo ago
Things like industrial capacity, military budget, GDP, are all largely contingent on population.
This all may be true, to an extent (it's obviously not as simple as adding people means more state capacity).
But again: so? I'm confident America is superior regardless.
Hadad
1mo ago
So you'd need to either totally occupy or install a puppet regime backed by your military, (probably both in that order), and the population matters there.
Why does regular bombing campaigns leaving the country unable to create the necessary infrastructure not a viable path forward? I see no particular reason we can't just annihilate them.
Hadad
1mo ago
Change tends to be inevitable when you blow up the current regime! But that's substantially different from us, personally, trying to groom a new generation of good boys in the Middle East.
Hadad
1mo ago
I continue not to see why their population matters to our bombing campaigns. At no point does Iran have too many people such that we shrug and accept them going nuclear.
Hadad
1mo ago
Why? We're not looking to nation build there, last I checked, we're looking to nation destroy so they don't develop nuclear weapons.
Hadad
1mo ago
I'm not professorgerm, but I'd disagree with it because the Marxist ideal has been tried, in a way that promoting a less sex-obsessed culture hasn't since our grandparent's eras (where, coincidentally, society did in fact seem less sex obsessed).
You can say Marxism hasn't been tried. But it has.
Hadad
1mo ago
Why doesn't Ted Cruz know the population of Iran?
Others have taken the meat of your post to respond to already, so I'm going to reply with a tangent: who cares?
What utility does knowing Iran's population matter? What relevance is the specific number of Iranians to any American interests? They're a far group whose only relevance is how much they might endanger our investments in the Middle East with their constant terrorism funding and sabber-rattling. There could be ten million, twenty, one hundred, it'd change no calculus.
The population of a minor nation across the sea is trivia. It's not important knowledge, and not knowing it shouldn't be taken as significant. It's like not knowing what Burkina Faso is the capital of.
Hadad
1mo ago
As politely as I can, "this place is a den of right-wing iniquity" has been a standard cry of more left-leaning posters here since we were still on Reddit, and it's never, not even once, been born out by surveys, group composition, self-professed identities, etc., etc.
People who aren't familiar with the right simply have such a low threshold for right-wing sentiment that any being allowed codes as a flood.
Hadad
1mo ago
I'd actually say we've seen America do nothing but slide down the slippery slopes since the 70s. It may not have taken the exact same form at the exact same pace as Canada, but it's still tumbling down.
Hadad
1mo ago
- It also harmonizes better with the current conservative political coalition, which is increasingly reliant on the votes of low-class and non-white voters who have higher rates of single-motherhood.
The low-class and non-white men, who are not known for thinking that women should recklessly slut it up. Both blacks and latinos are significantly more chauvinistic than whites. Even if many of them were raised by single mothers, they're almost certainly thinking their mother was one of the good ones, rather than thinking single mothers are desirable.
Hadad
1mo ago
Their belief is that the wicked actions of women are corrupting them, and they're consistent on this. Of course a lifestyle that embraces infanticide is also self-destructive and corrosive to society more broadly.
Hadad
1mo ago
It's hard when many of the same people are arguing a few threads down that women having sex with no prospect of marriage or childbirth is the root of all of our problems.
Why is this hard? If anything, their consistency should reinforce your belief in their integrity.
Hadad
1mo ago
You're quite welcome! I don't know how popular my take would be here, given this place has always been more disaffected liberals than anything else, but I'd say it's rather common among the modern right -- there's too much history on the subject for anyone to believe the rules matter.
Hadad
1mo ago
I agree, it'd be great if they didn't. Unfortunately, we've had multiple administrations fill the nation with illegals, who contribute to the electoral power of the very administrations that do this, and they then dodge (with help) the legal means of deporting them.
It'd be lovely if I could make Democrats stop, but I can't. So instead, I'm going for the fixes that are actually possible.
Hadad
1mo ago
The harsh consequences are the terror, pain, and distress of the deportation process, ideally aggravated as much as possible by willful right-wing executives. This is what I referred to in my other post as the "psychic wound" -- make being an illegal in the US as traumatic as possible, and many of them will self-deport, while others, not yet in the US, will be scared of the danger and not come at all.
There is no meaningful way for the state to bind its descendants. Laws can be changed or ignored. Personnel will change. Short of a constitutional amendment -- which ain't happening, and even if it did, could theoretically happen again after that to undo it -- there is no way to stop the next admin from fucking everything you did up.
So solutions must be outside the usual bounds of law and state capacity. The solution is to create something that outlasts any one administration. Memories of horror and pain are one such option -- generational wounds, enduring long after Trump's out of office and the next Democrat is once again promising infinity immigration with no brakes and permanent amnesty.
Hadad
1mo ago
There's absolutely nothing extreme about supporting brutalizing rioters, especially ones rioting in support of criminals. This is an extremely mainstream right-wing preference. All lives splatter, Antifa getting beat, etc., etc -- there's no love lost for agents of entropy. It'd take quite the bubble to think otherwise.
Highly unlikely to me there's any relevance from Ukraine to either side's approach. Trump was pro-Israel and anti-Ukraine before any of these conflicts erupted, and Russia's likely just too strained to contribute much, especially with how broadly unpopular Iran is.
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