Jiro
23d ago
If the quotes are not very far from what he said in public, the leaks should be a non-story because they would amount to "Thiel says a slightly different version of the same thing he's said a dozen times in public already".
They can't be both shocking revelations and just more of the same old thing.
Jiro
23d ago
The reason is that historically, most religiously motivated violence committed by Christians were preceded by such accusations.
The word "historically" is doing a lot of work here. If it happened ten years ago, you might have a point. But Christian violence against accused antichrists has been pretty much nonexistent for 80 years. (This is not so for violent jihads, of course.)
A conversation leaked by someone who doesn't like Thiel won't be a representative sample of what he says. It'll be disproportionately likely to sound bad and accordingly, the fact that it reminds you of a speech by a demon should lead you to update much less than if his speeches typically sound like they are made by demons.
Also, beware fictional evidence.
Jiro
26d ago
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Since he said it in private, it's inherently not going to include caveats and explanations that let you understand it, so you should grant a lot more charity to interpret it than you would anything said in public, like 99% of the cases of "punch a Nazi". This is doubly so if it was selected specifically because it sounds bad (and it was), because that ruins your priors.
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People won't give a pass for punching Nazis because punching Nazis is an act which can be done by a vigilante or a mob. Thiel isn't going to be doing anything to the Antichrist.
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As others have pointed out here, your interpretation is wrong. He did not actually mean what you think he meant.
Jiro
26d ago
Ironically, since not being allowed to diversify is a bad thing, you need to pay people extra money for them to be willing to take a job which doesn't let them diversify, which means that that would raise CEO salaries.
He already has the downside risk of losing his job. You're not supposed to invest in a company you work for unless you don't mind losing your job and your stock at the same time; diversification is a thing and investing in your own company would be opposed to diversification.
Or, more or less equivalently, a tradition of letting shareholders pierce the corporate veil and personally sue the CEO in civil court for securities fraud or breach of fiduciary duty in the event that the share price declines too much
That's a great way to make sure companies never do risky things. Also, to be fair, he should be able to sue the bureaucracy of his own company and the voting stockholders when they get in his way, since he faces personal liability when they fail.
It's certainly possible they were strategically pretending not to understand. If the assumption is reasonable (and "that doesn't mean someone who produces zero value" is reasonable), strategically pretending not to understand is a way to derail the conversation and is just plain dishonest. You can just respond to the whole thing including the implicit assumption--yes they can say "I didn't mean that", but then they're the one being dishonest since they obviously did. If you really expect that response you can say "even assuming you mean 1000 times an average worker, that still doesn't make sense because...."
Your standard encourages useless nitpicking. The things that normal people say are full of implicit assumptions and expecting them not to use any just makes things worse for everyone. It isn't helpful to not let people say "the sun rises in the east" because there are places where it rises in the west.
Jiro
27d ago
Including that comparison without making it explicit isn't a reasonable thing to do
Communication doesn't work that way. Unless something legal is involved, being too literal is a bad thing and ignores what is actually being communicated.
Jiro
27d ago
In order for it to be possible, all you need is zero, you don't have to have arbitrarily small, because it is certainly possible to produce 1000 times zero.
But it's still nonsense either way because people here are depressingly literal. "Produces 1000 times as much as another employee" implicitly compares an employee to another employee whose production is acceptable. The fact that the words "... whose production is acceptable" are not literally there doesn't change this.
There was actually news about Trump trying to take over bases in South Korea, although it was not last week. I also found this article about Trump wanting to take over a base in Afghanistan, but Afghanistan would not be useful against China. That wasn't last week either, though it was more recent.
Vietnam has a defense policy which would not allow foreign bases, although it's questionable how serious they are about it.
Jiro
29d ago
Japan is too many people killed. Vietnam is somewhat too many people killed. Afghanistan is not enough. The only one that fits is Korea. Checking news shows that Trump actually did talk about bases in Korea recently.
I would not count that as "occupied".
Jiro
29d ago
I would agree. If rare earths are essential for the defense industry, shouldn't they already be sourced only from domestic companies? If we rely on China for them, that's a problem that needs solving, not a way to get cheap materials.
Not only is this begging the question, your whole post is a Gish gallop. There have already been plenty of posts pointing out that the Young Republicans chat is not pro-Nazi. Someone already has pointed out that Myron Gaines is a pro-Palestinian Muslim--yeah, he doesn't like Jews, big surprise. Maybe he even identifies with Nazis. That reflects on the Democrats, who support the Palestinians and who Muslims are allied with, not on "conservatism". And the swastika flag, being nonobvious, was probably planted there to discredit Taylor. You clearly have not bothered checking any of your items for accuracy before posting them.
If you have a list of 20 reasons why creationism is true and the first item is about how the sun couldn't be millions of years old (written before nuclear fusion was discovered) it's not worth looking at the rest of the list.
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