MaximumCuddles
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Realize that if they don’t agree with this that they’re on the wrong side, and then switch sides. Like most of the post / ex liberals who are now MAGA, including Donald Trump himself.
Americans are not going to hug this one out, this ends when one side defeats the other.
There are a million ways that can be done, including multiple ways with minimal necessary violence, but that’s basically it.
This is not me waging the culture war, this is me seeing very clearly the nature of the thing.
None of this was inevitable or predestined, and yet here we are.
Putting aside any partisan feelings, I think she’s probably the clear front runner for the dumbest presidential candidate of my entire lifetime.
I don’t think it’s recency bias either, I’ve been wracking my brain for a while trying to think of a counter example and I’m coming up empty.
I understand why people voted for her even though I staunchly disagree, but she’s like the real life version of Veep with about a standard deviation less IQ. Whenever I hear her talk I think about that H.L. Mencken quote.
Or from 1921 - 1965 which saw America rocket forth in global dominance during a time of heavily restricted immigration.
Yeah I’m literally watching a high quality two hour documentary on the conquest of Greece by Rome while working out, right now. On YouTube. For free.
I think the lament says more about the OP than reality; long form and high quality content is broadly available it’s just increasingly not produced by the typical blue tribe producers.
If you’re deeply embedded in that cultural narrative, yeah sure it might feel like we are declining culturally. Lots of cultural institutions output have been horrific for the last 10-15 years.
But my access to high quality information and educational entertainment has never been better.
Because shitty employers access to a virtually unlimited pool of willing foreign serfs enables much of the shitty behavior in the first place, and it’s a much simpler and direct way to put upward pressure on employment conditions by siloing off the pool of potential ‘employees’ that would accept them in the first place.
Cutting the Gordian knot is always preferable to some theoretical future action that is so complicated and conditional its chance of success is slim.
The perfect being the enemy of the good and whatnot.
I’ll state again; the H1B program and its consequences are uniquely unpopular with the Trump base and broadly unpopular in the American voting public, therefore this attack on it seems very politic and straightforward. Is there some special reason you’re defending it?
As an American, I’m puzzled as to why I should emulate European employment practices that have resulted in such a weak economy and society rather than seek to return to the health and dynamism of the American past? Or construct a uniquely American future based on our own values?
I have, where I live has a very large Desi population and in my line of work I have to deal with a lot of relatively lower class Indians.
The negative effects on the social fabric are distinct from large scale Latino immigration but notable. There’s a clustering effect that I can see happening in real time.
Where I live they’re neck and neck with El Salvador as the major origin point of migrants, and now that El Salvador isn’t a violent hellhole but rather a stable and prosperous country, the flow of people from there to here is slowing down.
Why would Trump’s constituents, and the wider voting public, want this when they can just opt for the simpler solution and turn off the tap?
Why would you prefer a total overhaul of American labor law and work culture instead of restricting a program that’s very unpopular with the American public?
I think increasingly, day by day, it’s becoming rather easy to state the preferences of the Trump base and the American voter more broadly in polite society, and it’s increasingly difficult for the people who oppose it who vocalize their opposition without revealing hidden preferences.
Listen, if I want to fantasize about an all female squad “trampling on my rights” until I “succumb to fascism”, that’s my business.
That part of the comment was directed more generically at the thousands and thousands of people posting their response to Kirk’s death, often using their real name on social media.
I was addressing Striker’s observation.
Jimmy’s sin was that he was too stupid to understand what he was saying and not funny enough to pull it off anyways. If he believed it at the time, it’s even worse as far as I think.
Fired for incompetence, can’t wait to never see his voice or hear his face ever again. Hope he learns to code.
I think this is also a false equivalence: the two sides so-called “cancel culture” aren’t equivalent either.
They actually mirror the limited / unlimited dichotomy between conservatives & progressives basically perfectly.
During the woke left reign of terror of 2014 - 2022 it was an increasingly intense and long list of things that you had to positively affirm or at least not contradict in order to (maybe, possibly) avoid being canceled. It changed day by day, hour by hour, year by year, and grew longer and more complex. Like multiple dials constantly being adjusted.**
In the “woke right reign of terror” that is now being feverishly being dreamed up by people who imagine the current situation is analogous, it’s a bright line to not be crossed; it’s very simple, obvious and easy to know what not to do in order to not incur the wrath of the “woke right” At this current moment.
Step One: Don’t ghoulishly dance on the grave of a recently murdered conservative activist and icon and state that he deserved to be murdered.
Step two: There’s no step two. That’s it.
The “woke right” aren’t demanding performative mourning from people who clearly hate them. They don’t wish to compel speech out of anyone. All these people had to do was not justify out loud the cold blooded murder of their colleagues.
But they simply can’t help themselves.
** An observation is that conservatives view violence / force as a switch and progressives see it as a dial also maps nicely onto this.
I’m not a huge fan of Maher but he’s clearly a lot more talented and intelligent than Jimmy Kimmel.
Not a super high bar, mind you, but I’m not damning Maher with faint praise; I’m sure it explains both his ability to be edgy and escape the worst consequences and not get immediately fired for overstepping the line.
Jimmy’s biggest sin is just being retarded and unfunny. I’m as angry as anyone about Charlie Kirk’s death but even I’ve seen some decent jokes about it, and I’ll give credit where credits due.
Yep! I remember clearly.
That was rather unwise to say even if it was true. I remember being annoyed by that but not particularly surprised.
What Jimmy Kimmel did was actually much, much worse; dancing on the grave of a recently murdered victim of political assassination and simultaneously spreading an easily disprovable conspiracy theory for obvious partisan reasons immediately after a very tragic event.
Which is why the “Bush did 9/11 also all those firefighters that voted republicans deserved to die” on 9/12 is rather apt comparison, no?
Very compelling, this is not my area of expertise so I’ll take your word for it.
This equivocation is maddening.
Jimmy Kimmel basically did the equivalent of going on live TV the day after 9/11 and said “Bush did 9/11 and if you think otherwise you are a fucking retard.” and very predictably got shitcanned for it.
This is nowhere near the cancel culture of 2014 - 2022 where leftists were digging up ten year old tweets of jokes in semi poor taste, private conversations or video of teenagers singing along to rap in their car in high school and getting people expelled or fired.
How on earth can you justify this belief?
”It’s more likely than you think.”
That’s fair, but as far as I know there’s never been an appetite to comb through every single second of their footage of their streams until now.
There’s a ton of material to work with. Who knows what a dedicated team could actually put together.
Might not move the needle at all, but I’d be amazed if anyone had been able to get away with such a detailed look before.
Yeah if the DOJ really wants to go after them for Incitement, I think they might be in legitimate trouble.
Which I personally find hilarious to contemplate.
The really funny thing for me which I knew at the time was the clash of the scale of the things they were talking about.
Health officials stating that “police violence against black s” was our “most important health crisis” which somehow overrode COVID.
I knew at the time how many “unarmed” black men were killed by police; it was like 12 per year. 12 goddamn people in the entire United States. In a year. With a very generous definition of “unarmed” which includes; had a gun but dropped it, had a gun within arms reach, etc etc.
The average democrat voter thought it was around 10,000 a year, an exaggeration in the ballpark of 10,000%.
These same people were claiming that literally millions of people would possibly die if their despotic covid policies weren’t followed to the letter.
Even in their own exaggerated rhetoric I couldn’t make it make sense.
It was maybe my first experience with an absolutely unsteelman-able position which looked suspiciously like mass voodoo, like witnessing 90 million people fall to dancing mania in the year of our lord 2020.
It’s one of the cheapest and most widely commercially available hunting rifles in the world. A single shot, bolt action hunting rifle.
The kind of firearm that is available even in countries with strict gun control.
The idea that gun control would have prevented this is nothing short of farcical.
It’s the firearm equivalent of like… a common chef’s knife. Or a two door sedan. A claw hammer. Or bleach. Or gasoline. All incredibly common things that can nevertheless be used by a determined attacker to kill someone.
I suspect to the people who label Charlie Kirk as a “far right white nationalist” (apparently that’s what it says or has said in the past on Wikipedia) whatever constitutes a “moderate” conservative is purely functional; it’s just by definition a conservative that plays within their framework and they can control and don’t feel threatened by.
I’ve seen enough ass covering in the last 48 hours from the same people who had been calling Kirk a Nazi for years to not take these people seriously.
I appreciate your perspective on this and offer a counterweight, if you will.
There was a joke going around on X, that I’ll paraphrase;
Red state republican: “Democrats have some crazy, stupid ideas and I’m sure glad they aren’t in charge here but I know a few and they’re not all bad.” Blue state republican: “I, personally, am willing to volunteer to pilot the helicopters throwing democrats overboard over the ocean if it means there’s a 1% chance to escape this never ending hell.”
While this is very funny, I also think the opposite is largely true; the hicklib, the blue tribe striver living in red states, is by far the most extreme example of what I’m talking about.
If you’re in a comfortably blue city in an area in a blue state, it’s hard to communicate how rabidly partisan these types can be.
I travel a lot for work, and not just from urban center to urban center, I spend a lot of time in little mountain towns and beach towns, places really just for locals.
The stereotype of the urban blue tribe applies triply to blue tribe people in smaller towns & rural areas as their identity is so tied up with bitter struggles with their own background and family.
Yes, I do.
In the year 2025, the remaining rank and file registered democrats are amongst the most successfully propagandized people in the history of the world.
I’m not talking about the occasional voter. Imagine the modal democrat primary voter; the habitual democrat who votes down ballot every election. The people that really form the core of the Democratic Party voting bloc.
I genuinely think of you handed that person a button which would explode a bomb underneath Elon Musk’s feet they’d wait about a millisecond before slamming it.
Sure, there’s gradients to this whole thing.
When I learned Osama Bin Laden died I went out and had a celebratory beer and enjoyed it in quiet, satisfied contemplation. He was unambiguously and directly responsible for the mass murder of thousands of my fellow citizens, and I was glad he was dead. But even then I didn’t gloat or grab a megaphone and shout it from the rooftops.
The behavior I see from leftists en masse from the death of even the mildest right wing figure is so routinely ghoulish that I’ve come to expect from them that I struggle to think of these people as actually human. This isn’t new, either, it’s been this way basically my whole life.
I’m not expecting his political opponents to theatrically shed a tear for him, just not acting like literal demons cackling with glee would suffice to temper my rage towards them. I consider it well earned at this point.
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Minority Report:
Target is left-wing: Shooter has a chance of being even more left wing than target.
Unusual, but I can’t see a counter example where right wing target was killed for not being sufficiently right wing, at least not in the last 50 years.
Understanding this asymmetry is key; it explains the power dynamics and is a source of massive projection.
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