Misembrance
1yr ago
Even so, Eva Kor, an Auschwitz survivor, did it. And in a sense, so did World War II veteran Kurt Vonnegut in The Sirens of Titan
Talk is cheap. Hitler is dead so there are no stakes to saying “I forgive him.” You put Eva Kor in a room with living Hitler and the power to kill him and we would see if he was really forgiven. Outside of that this is just virtue signaling
Misembrance
1yr ago
but the part that continues to be absolutely bewildering to me is that dogged stubbornness only makes you look worse
Genuine question because of the paywall: are the people dishonestly pushing the debunked homophobia claim suffering any sort of consequences?
Misembrance
1yr ago
Sounds to me like you are falling for the unjust world fallacy. The mistaken belief that every misfortune is the result of undeserved oppression and victimization.
I don’t see why only one side should get to unilaterally create a “fallacy” to diagnose their opposition with.
Misembrance
1yr ago
I’m not saying Republicans would be any better if they had similarly ironclad control of every university in the country. But they don’t, and even if Republicans won every election for the next 20 years they still wouldn’t. But if these HN contrarians are not actually willing to defect, then how is the pendulum shifting at all? They can say all day “Gee these woke universities sure are crazy!” but as long as they continue to donate to them, attend them, vote Democrat and dutifully rename master branches to main, what good is it?
Misembrance
1yr ago
Oh don’t be cute, you know exactly what makes him a freak. Any reasonable definition of freak would include this guy. He is undeniably an extreme, bleeding edge outlier on the spectrum of gender/sex weirdness. You may love that, but it doesn’t change his outlierness. Just be honest please
Misembrance
1yr ago
That's why the comparison to the George Floyd protests was reasonably successful
Was this actually successful? Democrats I know seem to have no problem treating one as saintly and the other as the worst thing since Hitler
Misembrance
1yr ago
Reddit would love this but fail to see obvious parallels to transgenderism
Misembrance
1yr ago
You could say murdering all the drag performers would be “just an extreme form of no-platforming”. I think it would be wrong to be so needlessly reductive, it just collapses actual meaningful differences in harm and violence in order to “both sides” or “what about” the situation
Misembrance
1yr ago
Your comments repeatedly imply that he is just a normal privacy-minded person like you or me, but the dastardly media went snooping around his private life to out him. Like here, you are telling him to justify the government digging up his private sex life as if he isn’t shouting it from the rooftops and making it absolutely front and center of his presentation and public image. Nobody has to do any snooping here. This is like that huge breasted Canadian trans teacher.
If I publicly made age-play and daddy-daughter roleplay central to my public image, and tweeted on my public, professional twitter about my sex-with-daughter roleplay I wouldn’t be surprised if HR paid me a visit.
Misembrance
1yr ago
Yes, I believe that most claimed allergies are fake. Just based on personal experience, I know one person that claims an allergy to mushrooms which I guarantee is just an aversion to their taste/texture, I know another two that claim allergies to “artificial food coloring” which is surely just some form of chemophobia and I know another with vaguely defined “gluten sensitivity”. Tellingly none of them have strongly definite externally observable reactions to the allergen.
Misembrance
1yr ago
Ooops, better not share that pic you took out in public for 24 hours. It might reveal someone's live location.
It is clearly not going to be used to ban people posting recent photos, unless you happen to be a stalker. Stop it with these goofy histrionics.
Basic elements of reality also include your internet search history, your penis length, your medical history, your number of sexual partners and recordings of you sleeping. If I can’t see all of that The Internet Is Officially Over.
Misembrance
1yr ago
It’s the kids who were in high school asking for more homework, tattling on other kids, and sneering at anybody who liked sports. If that was you, then yeah you’re a theater kid
Uhh, I think theater kids are defined by their participation in theater. I don’t have any of these other associations. In fact generally theater kids were not the best students
As for the assertion that libertarian is far right, that kind of proves his point. Libertarians aren’t exactly known for close adherence to tradition, but rather drug experimentation and breaking social norms.
Misembrance
1yr ago
thoughts and prayers for those wireheaded by the kafkaesque stochastic egregore
Misembrance
1yr ago
Why shouldn’t they? You have to accept that on an individual level which is the level that really matters. I care if Terence Tao beats me on the job application, but I have to accept that just the same
Misembrance
1yr ago
Point being, people doing this are sufficiently abnormal that trying to predict their future behavior and saying “She would never do this again” seems really really unwise.. There is no way you can convince me that Bayes doesn’t say she has a far higher risk of murdering again than an average woman. She has done a couple lifetimes worth of damage already, what is the benefit of keeping her free? Just lock her up, throw away the key and we never have to worry about her again
Misembrance
1yr ago
Beginning a few years ago it started to be actively suppressed by the mods and sneered at by the “cooler” users on TheMotte. I think it sort of coincided with Julius Branson. I noticed that every post mentioning HBD that wasn’t by a 5 year+ veteran was treated as “Probable sneerclub troll baiting to get the sub banned”, and at least downvoted if not banned by the mods.
Were the discussions repetitive and boring after a point? Sure, but so is everything we talk about. How many times have people discussed tech censorship of online communities? How often do we talk about overproduction of elites and wokeness as intra elite competition? It’s the same topics every week for years, barring a few new events. HBD was definitely excised from the community pretty deliberately, perhaps most here still believe it but have gotten the message that talking about it is deeply uncool and liable to get you banned.
Just look at how BorfRebus talks about “HBD autists” upthread, we don’t talk about “libertarian autists” or “classical liberal autists” or “anti censorship autists” with such casual mockery
Misembrance
1yr ago
People always propose explanations like this without considering if they have any predictive power. So going by this, I should be able to look up the countries with the lowest rates of home ownership and highest youth unrmployment and find the wokest population, right? Do you think that will be true?
Misembrance
1yr ago
I agree, I think the majority of people will profess beliefs when asked, but these don’t really exist in a meaningful way outside of the verbal expression. I came to this conclusion particularly observing young womens attitudes towards astrology. An enormous number seem to say they believe it, but is it just a joke? I don’t think it’s a joke, but it’s not really serious either. It seems somewhere in between, mostly an act because it is more fun to act like astrology is real and since nobody is demanding they show costly commitments to it (making large monetary investments based on horoscopes for example) there’s no real pressure to sort out what they really believe. A lot of guys are the same way, even guys on the Motte when talking about satanic elites or whatever.
I think if you put a gun to their head and say you have the oracle truth in an envelope you get very different answers from most people.
Misembrance
1yr ago
motherhood today is very stressful
It has literally never been easier
Misembrance
1yr ago
Not sure this is true. Take for example reproduction. In the past, selecting for “enjoys sex” was good enough to ensure reproduction. Obviously that won’t cut it now due to contraception, and we’re in the process of moving to selecting for “wants children.” Perhaps it won’t be possible to select for that but we’ll see
It could be that in the past a genetic predisposition towards “conformity” lead to social conservatism, but now “conformist genes” lead you to be progressive. If “conformist genes” are now leading to plummeting birth rates they ought to become less common, and whatever genes lead to conservatism now will be selected for.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that perhaps a genetic predisposition to X leads to progressivism in some social circumstances and conservatism in others. And perhaps the genetic basis for conservatism in 2023 is not the same as it would have been in 1850
Misembrance
1yr ago
So the near-complete eradication of childhood mortality is outweighed because…bosom contact is slightly more inconvenient? The vast increases in housework efficiency by microwaves, refrigerators, vacuums, laundry machines and dishwashers thereby giving you more time for your children is outweighed by…circadian rhythms? The complete elimination of starvation as a realistic threat/stress is outweighed by…?
Any slightly objective assessment would find the scales tipped dramatically towards the past having far more dramatic stressors, hardships and timesinks than the present. I don’t see how you can realistically just handwave away six children in a row dying of scarlet fever as less stressful than the present
Misembrance
1yr ago
There is a reason why we have insanity defenses and the like, sometimes people are not responsible for their own actions
How could they not be responsible? Did someone forcibly take control of her body? Why should I care whether a mental illness was at work? A mental illness is part of you, it is inseparable from you. If her mental illness did it, she did it, there is no difference. If someone murders me and they were mentally ill, does it make me any less dead than if they were mentally healthy?
In some sense any murderer is self-evidently mentally unwell. Murder isn’t a normal response to anything (outside of things like self defense shich isn’t considered murder). So why does it matter if their particular form of mental abnormality has or doesn’t have a specific label? They are a danger to their fellow citizens all the same.
Misembrance
1yr ago
Once again, Florida teachers are free to have students read materials on both sides of the issues.
In practice how do you think this will turn out though? I have a hard time believing you are being honest with this act of “Who knows, all the teachers of AP Af Am Studies might just turn out to be David Duke, Chris Rufo and Charles Murray!”
You know damn well 99% of teachers for this course will either be true believers or willing to parrot the true believers in presenting this stuff as uncritically true
Also having a child this year and I can say my opinion hasn’t moved at all. I personally would want access to abortion if my child had some sort of problem. That said, overturning Roe or various state level bans wouldn’t prevent me from getting an abortion in that situation, my wife could just take a trip if I happened to live in a state where it was illegal.
To me the handwringing about access to abortions reminds me of handwringing about people unable to get any form of ID in order to vote. I refuse to believe there is anyone so poor or stupid they’d be unable to get an abortion or an ID if they wanted. I only see it affecting extremely lazy, short-sighted people who simply hardly care one way or another.
So taken together, I would prefer abortion to be legal but I hardly care either way, it will always be readily available regardless of law
This exchange is a lot like this classic meme. You are being extremely condescending and scornful, sneering that anyone that “ever opened a history book” would know better (but refusing to elaborate or engage), while FarNearEverywhere is saying he would break the nose of anyone questioning genocide.
On the other hand, @SecureSignals is providing numerous sources, links and actual arguments regarding the historiography of the Holocaust.
I understand there is the whole issue from Epistemic Learned Helplessness, that a crank with a hobby horse can be much more prepared than a mainstream normie. But you should understand, SecureSignals is coming across better here. In this exchange, the mainstream looks smug and dismissive, but simultaneously evasive and heavily reliant on emotional manipulation.
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