Weren’t the immigrants to Argentina either the same as the founding stock or hypothetically better? My understanding is it was founded by the Spanish. At some point they decided they need more people and wrote a constitution that promoted European migration with I think a preference for Northern Europeans. What they got was a lot of Spanish and Italian immigrants with the Italians being mostly northern Italians. Northern Italians are largely considered at worse the low tier of the good Europeans. Definitely above the Spanish. The golden age of Argentina was post massive northern Italian immigrants. The richest Argentinians still tend to be Northern Italian blood.
One can still argue Argentina failed because it was filled with Catholics predisposed to socialism light but it’s not like the Spanish weren’t Catholics. It was never an Anglo country.
I think most people would agree with this as potentially the votes for FDR and The Great Society and the creation of the welfare state. Where this would break down is Europe and Canada do more of this. The ‘80s Revolution still occurred in America. Now perhaps the push back would have been bigger without the Catholic influence on culture.
I don’t disagree on those groups, but I do think 1990’s-2020’s we collectively did make a push to try and figure out how to assimilate ADOS more fully. That is partly why we elected Obama. Why we did affirmative action. Why we probably did things like have silly Air Traffic controller test for ADOS partly on some kind of reasoning if we just get them into whitish collar middle class seats that they will excel in the seat and assimilation occurs.
I think you could call it a priming the pump strategy of creating an ADOS middle class.
Some would likely consider the ‘90s Affirmative Action push and some other programs as a strong attempt at getting full ADOS assimilation. When affirmative action failed then woke started since no interventions achieved the stated goal it must be that the other 85% have biases that holding back assimilation.
But now we are post-woke and genetic arguments are rising since the woke intervention also seems to have failed.
So maybe we actually have been trying assimilation and failed?
The problem with words is they can have different relatively similar meanings.
Most of Latam accepts a shared culture. The elites, middle class, and lower class all have an acceptance of what is Mexican Food or Music and they have the same understanding that a taco is Mexican and Sushi is not Mexican. But there is a bigger assimilation of seeing yourself as truly one people. They likely mostly lack that. The English of the European countries bonded a few people together but today I think they mostly view themselves as “one people”. You can still at times notice physical traits and faces from the prior population groups. That I consider a stronger form of assimilation.
Most of the new world has the looser form of assimilation. Pre-mass migration the US for most of its population developed the stronger form of assimilation. I would say in 1980 Italians probably being the last large migration had nearly fully accomplished the strong form of assimilation.
You would be using a definition of assimilation that is borderline meaningless. Sure we have some shared memes. But for the most part the communities are segregated. Wildly different income, crime, life expectancy, and voting records. Far different polling on in-group biases.
Both sides do have a sense of being American. But we have polling on things like juries and ADOS show significant bias towards other ADOS. If tribal loyalties exists then assimilation has at best been partial.
This is if you have a good outcome. A slow painful assimilation. India has the highest genetic distance of its people. The solution they had to a lot of diversity was to create the caste system and just have the different groups legally and by custom live separately. The west seems like it might go down the path of India.
This is technically a sign to sell any cyclical. It just didn’t work this cycle with AI picks and shovels because demand kept increasing. But in general when you can recoup the costs of a big capital expenditure quickly it’s a good sign to sell the assets because the market will end up overbuilding capacity.
The steelman is that assimilation is not guaranteed. There are many instances of countries where assimilation hasn’t occurred over thousands of years. In America ADOS have not fully assimilated and right now we have zero signs assimilation will ever occur. India itself is not an assimilated country. Castes still exists. Brazil is an example of a country that is not assimilated. You end up with a result where different tribes in your society vote for group interests and not society interests. If assimilation fails then your end result is permanently worse politics.
This is bad for a lot of reason. High performers in unassimilated countries are less productive. Brazil had a lot of Italian and German immigrants and they are poorer and less productive than the groups that immigrated to America.
Once you have permanent groups that are not assimilating you can not unring that bell and will be stuck with poorer governance forever.
Also it seems weird to me to say that Hispanics will likely assimilate. Most Latin countries are not assimilated. And certainly to a far lesser extent than America had a dominant uniculture when I was a kid.
The ethnic enclave in the stadium is scary. But overall they looked assimilated. I’ve repeatedly said prior generations of Indians some times do seem to assimilate very well to the point no one even notices they are Indian anymore.
The scary thing to me is if Texas could do a full Californication process. Despite California’s wealth it seems like it’s much more third worldification than elsewhere in America. I think the data is fairly clear that the State doesn’t work for the middle class anymore which is witnessed by population leaving every year. I tend to think demographic change has greatly influenced California’s political culture which is something we do not want to spread. I guess California has always been to the left of Texas but it was cowboy land too at one point. How do we maintain an Anglo form of government as demographics change? It doesn’t seem local level California governance has dealt with this well. By Anglo governance it feels to me like California has a lot more class/tribe politics than Texas.
Ya your human/fetus distinction is just is no longer in mother. But that can be manipulated. Kill a baby 2 days outside of mom and get life so legally it’s mattered.
The problem with sentient is it’s just as easy to say it’s ok to kill a 1 year old. But it’s a practical workable legal line since we don’t have technology that says this is now alive.
All the data seems to indicate it’s not that danger and safer than every thing else people use recreationally. Except it’s not addicting.
Now they did seem powerful to me. And having a psychotic break for a couple hours feels like it should be dangerous. It’s not in the data. It felt a lot more dangerous than drinking alcohol so that admittedly makes me confused. I would like to have a good explanation for why this is the case.
State interests is far too strong to allow this. There is zero reason I am unrelated third party should have to pay for the kid. Which would generally happen because the person carrying the child is generally poor and renting out their body for 9 months.
This is obviously not science though I guess without clear science picking 9 months post conception as sentient sort of works. But there is no science that makes outside of mother as suddenly sentient being. Somewhat similar to how we have different ages for adulthood but they’re basically made up.
The religious people have the better science argument of just declaring we don’t know when it’s sentient so let’s do none of this.
No expert on those countries. I just see plenty of criminal cases where I think the person deserves more jail than less.
America has a lot of crime and it ruins the commons.
I’m not touching them for a while. Ayahuaca has too many reports of negative reactions and outcomes that I don’t have that on my list to do anytime.
Everything I’ve seen on psychedelic mushrooms is they are safe to take and people don’t end up doing bad things while hallucinating. Along with having low addiction rates. Personally though it felt dangerous to me and I could see someone doing something bad while on them. Plus I think controlling your dose is hard.
I am basically mixed on whether people should try them.
“It would be strange that the US has the fifth largest incarceration rate and isn’t incarcerating enough people“
I would expect a country with a high incarceration rate to have a lot of crime. This is essentially saying it’s weird people use a lot of Air Conditioning in the summer.
I purposely took what was suppose to be 3 grams of mushrooms in chocolates. The prior time I had took 1.5 grams and it was like cool visuals. My gut says poor quality control and they weren’t mixed well and I had a bigger dose. So hypothetically for some insanity defense when I took the shrooms I thought I was taking a reasonable and wouldn’t go crazy.
When you take a big dose of shrooms there’s something called an ego death. I guess I did something like that. I did imagine I was died and was in purgatory plus some things about thinking I was like Jesus brother which feels like a big ego to me.
My purgatory was hallucinating and seeing people in my life like my mom or gf. But they always turned out to be demons and I was robbed of having any human love. It got to the point where I would give anything to spend a moment with the person I find most annoying. So now in real life I love people more because being robbed of friendship and humanity is really not fun. I accepted I was in purgatory and would spend thousands of years of god molding me to be good or hopefully it doesn’t take that long.
I was begging for what felt like hours to get out of the alternative reality I had created. Purgatory is in fact quite painful.
Also I did shrooms with Jews. And obviously Jews are demons in my purgatory. They tempting me with unlimited power and wealth if I rejected Christ and joined them.
Whatever shrooms do to your mind I don’t know any cases where you end up killing the people your with. But I did have no sense of reality.
I have no idea if I would recommend for someone to do a big dose of shrooms or a similar thing. I had a semi-religious experience and I think some good mental work. But it was not fun. Purgatory is not fun.
But I’m writing this here because that’s my best understanding of some kind of temporary mental illness where you could like kill your kids but not understand what you are doing.
She may have had reasonable doubt by the jurisdiction standards but then basically every murderer has reasonable doubt.
By my male standard every women is a little crazy but that shouldn’t mean you get to kill people.
One time I did mushrooms. I had taken the same brand a time before and got very little effect. This time I did twice that dose and it put me in another reality. I eventually assumed I had died and was in purgatory. Everyone around me I thought was demons. Suppose I got a knife and started stabbing my friends who I thought were demons. Should I go free?
I kind of think for society it’s best I’m executed. We can’t just let people murder even if it’s a mental illness and they didn’t know what they were doing. You still need to have that standard.
The mushroom chocolates I took I think were not mixed well. The first time I took them I had three and looking at trees was a lot of fun. The second time I took them I had 6. I went to an alternate universe. So I expected a stronger experience but not alternate world.
This is America. Land of opportunity. So yes you need an “approved” reason to reject a population. And even then it’s hard to reject a person because their tribe is on net bad and you need to judge them as individuals.
I always compare suburb life to urban life in Buenos Aires because I live there half my time. They have grills and we do an asado all the time.
“No smart planning…strangers”. This is why I’m anti-immigration. What if your neighbors are not strangers? What if your stranger is someone who’s genetically and culturally the same as you? Then they are just a friend maybe a friend you have not met yet.
If you replace stranger with friend in a non multicultural world then you kind of like having them around.
“do I want Richard Hanania in my boat with me or the median suburban dad?“
No I don’t trust him. I trust AOC more than him because she’s honest. So if where doing gulags yes hang him. He knew better. But keep the AOC people because they made a mistake.
I wouldn’t punish a good man who just wrote what he thought was true.
I’ll give him the respects I think he is EHC. Also probably put myself in that group. He was a really good writer with interesting opinions. It’s how he built a following. He’s changed whose he writing too and gone down market and thinks he’s the protector of inconvenient truths.
Still a wordcell EHC but he does have talent.
Jake Paul some reason reminds me of him since I started seeing him promoting betr. He’s already rich with plenty of ways to monetize, but choosing to monetize your brand promoting gambling just feels wrong to me. Just reminds me of Hannania going down the path he is now. Feels wrong to sacrifice the truth for outrage and probably money.
I guess I accept politicians will play political games and be dishonesty and build outrage. But I just don’t see a point of reading a writer that wants to be inflammatory. I guess the media has a niche here too msnbc/fox have definitely done it. And it makes money. But I think Hannania did have actual talent so I am sad to see him go down that path.
Refused to read his writing. And I do think some people prove themselves to be not worth reading. I do think he’s an amazingly talented writer who can have great insights. I won’t read him because I don’t believe he writes his true beliefs and writes to be inflammatory. I don’t believe a writer like that is worthy of my time. I want to have honest debates. Few people want that so he probably makes more money being inflammatory. I also don’t listen to Tucker Carlson or Candace Owen’s.
Most of the time I disagree with you. I’ll still read what you say because I think you are writing your true understanding of the world and perhaps will say something I didn’t think about or make me think about how I can express my view better. I’ll listen to AOC because I think she’s genuine and want to know why she thinks the way she does.
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And Argentina was more like the US in that the Native American population was small and they only did a small amount slavery. And then did some things like putting their ADOS in the front lines during war and Indian war to limit their population.
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