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				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


The limiting factor is probably that for a woman to end up homeless she probably has mental issues and addiction severe enough to make her incapable of consenting to such a relationship or just simply refuse any offers.




Yeah - schizophrenia can do that. There are exceptions like women fleeing abusive situations and not being able to get IDs and shit like that. There's also homeless people (men and women, but mostly dudes) living on the streets in like Portland who choose to live that way or at least look functional enough to be able to hold down basic jobs and live in apartments. They don't smell, are wearing clean clothes, can hold a normal conversation with you...


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Hell, if you end up eating way too much and swell up to 600+ pounds the odds of you having any life that makes you truly happy is approximately zilch.




That guy actually got surgery and lost the weight. But you're right about some things - namely, some people being royally fucked (quadriplegics, people in prison for life, some schizophrenics) and these kinds of people becoming invisible (they wind up in institutions of one kind or another and don't get out much).


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Maybe. But there are a few no bullshit soldiers that enjoyed fighting in literal wars. There's not many, but they're out there. Also this guy could be extremely attached to being a man and his male sex/gender: he'd rather be a hobo fighting homeless junkies (and potentially being killed/maimed/thrown in jail from same) than be a beautiful, wealthy, socially graceful, healthy woman.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I'd much rather be bum-fighting a junkie than live my life as any woman.




This is an interesting question: you wouldn't change your mind if she was beautiful, wealthy, physically fit, socially gifted. You'd rather be you...but homeless, and likely with mental health or substance abuse or perhaps legal issues keeping you homeless.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


male doctors are busy marrying 22 year old nurses.




Eh. A lot of the doctors in my class are...with other doctors. So too, there's plenty of shorter doctors - 5'7" and under - that would be thrilled to date and marry a 30yo resident or doctor.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I can understand pixie cuts, but I will admit to finding the haphazardly-shaven or buzz-cut-esque haircuts common in queer circles to be bizarre and unattractive.




Kind of signaling, maybe a little countersignaling. I like the aesthetic.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


If you don't have security and safety, why the fuck should you abide by all the restrictions of society? What have they done for you lately?




This is why a large middle class is necessary for a stable society.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 10, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


That is not a way that anything can work.




Victorian-style purity standards applied to men, not women, certainly seems...interesting. Women are allowed to be sexual; men are expected to be chaste and virtuous. This would be an interesting thing indeed.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 3, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Hmm. If you have a lot of something, you can get away with not learning the things that other people need to learn. Many beautiful people get away with being assholes or not as competent. Trust fund babies born with silver spoons in their mouths sometimes misuse their privilege in ways that peasants like you and I that must work for a living can't pull off. Not every rich person goes to Yale, gets trashed at parties, and urinates off of balconies onto the peasants below...but a few do. When you have the same peasants you just pissed on at midnight sucking up to you the next day because your dad's a billionaire and you've got connections...you can be an asshole if you like.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 3, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Hmm.


I have heard that there was some kind of unique wisdom that you could only get from sex and relationships. As such, it makes sense to be less choosy about your first relationship than subsequent ones. I am very aware that if you are quite unattractive or autistic, sex and relationships for both men and women can be a kind of Faustian bargain. It's up to each individual to decide what they're OK with; as long as they're not being evil, it's their choice.


Bringing children into a situation like this makes things more...complicated, though.


Also, the Devil generally holds up his end of the bargain, but gets his pound of flesh in the end.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 3, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


But the stuff that DOES require heavy labor as an input (agriculture, construction, energy production) are all FOUNDATIONAL for civilization.




Fair enough. But...suppose that something (a virus maybe) just nerfed the shit out of male strength, leaving most dudes as weak as the average woman. This would suck, but we'd learn to adapt and even if there was no cure, 10 years after that virus hit we'd be doing OK. This being said, I'm not sure that greater male physical strength is required for agriculture or construction. I will say that construction would be more expensive and less efficient if you only had women working it. This being said, if we had a good deal of warning that dudes doing heavy labor would down tools and stop working we could most definitely keep things going. Designing tools to be smaller and more readily used, building machinery to automate certain parts of processes, and having more people on work crews could allow civilization to keep chugging along.


The median man, as you said, doesn't need to be swole in order to earn a living.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 3, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
If you're cycling...a Joe off the street, untrained, can probably do around 600 watts. A guy that half-asses cycling and doesn't have much sprinting talent might do 1,000. A solid amateur, 1,300. 2,000 watts is a very high number: a large, talented, dedicated amateur or a professional might be able to put down that much power.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 3, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Hmm. I think that you might find acceptance among rednecks in the Northern US, but in the South I am not so sure.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 3, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Window air conditioning units can be had used for $50 here in America, or new for $250. I wonder how much they cost Brits.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 3, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Out of curiosity - why are you ineligible to take the USMLE exams? I'm assuming you graduated from a decent medical school in India, and after having done that you could take Step 1 and 2. After that you could apply for a US residency. Unfortunately, I can't help you there, being a lowly medical student.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 3, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Yes, the failure of many men was in not screening the mothers of their children for acceptable behaviour before knocking them up.




And what would you advise they do: be celibate for life? Not have children at all? Being cheated on sucks, I will agree. So does divorce. But that isn't the worst thing that can happen. I've seen plenty of things just as bad or worse. Food addiction, drug addiction, attempted murder, physical abuse...


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of July 3, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I believe that one of the reasons why so many people are single today is because too many people are unattractive.




Yeah. Also there is the fact that the things that men were/are traditionally good at (heavy labor and war) aren't nearly as important in the modern world, while the traditional male failure modes of essentially being a violent/drug addicted/game addicted jackass are still just as bad. It's pretty arguable that Joe Median isn't a good deal for Jane Median these days. I'm not at all saying that this is a bad thing; there's been plenty of arguments that patriarchy was a sheltered workshop for unattractive dudes.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Ye olde battlefield surgeons were basically getting people from certain death to probable death.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 26, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Yeah, the space mining has to turn a profit. And not become a victim of its own success by crashing the price of gold or whatever it is they're mining.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				In This House, We Believe in Gender Stereotypes
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Yeah - we'd have a sex binary, and different rules and roles based on things like physical strength and pregnancy, but I'm not sure how much of a gender binary we'd have if the average person could change sexes for real with the current equivalent of $20k.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 26, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I s'pose you could have a bunch of high-status maybe-celibate people working on the space program as support staff for the space colonists? But that too is expensive as hell. Monasteries used to be at least theoretically self-supporting; the monks brewed beer or made cheese or whatever. Can that space mining program pay for itself by bringing back a bunch of gold or something?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 26, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


One of the things that worked fairly well in the past — across civilizations actually— was priesthood or monks or nuns being a prestige position.




That worked well for grain-farming civilizations; I don't know if there was a celibate class of priests/shamans/full-time religious people in pastoral societies. Space colonization could work, but conditions up there are a good deal more hostile than Antarctica and as such it's going to be expensive as all hell. Not like you can load a boat with a bunch of convicts and send it over to Australia or something.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for June 18, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I am thinking Option 1: even the threat of food insecurity through conflict allows other parties to have a stronger negotiating position. The rural poverty and ecological sustainability is a bonus.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				In This House, We Believe in Gender Stereotypes
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I mean. I think that the current state of trans healthcare/medicine is roughly analogous to WWI-era plastic surgery. Pumping research dollars into it now would result in only slight/incremental improvements unless we get an Alexander Fleming (which we might) or we pump a LOT of research dollars into it. An alliance between biomedical engineers and the trans movement seems like it could be vastly beneficial to healthcare in general...lab-grown skin could help burn victims. Lab-grown ears and noses could benefit people who have been disfigured. I'll agree that lab-grown organs aren't something we might see in our lifetime...but still. It could be very helpful.


Ultimately I think that after 20 or 30 years we'll wind up with a de facto third and fourth gender, shading into 'trans man' and 'trans woman'. Transmen will be mostly treated as men; trans women, not so much; puberty does cause irreversible changes and any physical weakness trans guys have as a result of not having gone through male puberty just gets rounded off to 'that's just a small, weak-looking dude'.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of June 12, 2023
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I don't remember if it was the first day or the fourth, but I've never been more than a handful of times. I am nowhere near that pro soccer player's level of athleticism. I was just an ordinary 25-year-old dude that worked out a couple times a week. Plenty of guys could run faster, jump higher, and lift more than I could. At the time I could run a mile in a little under seven minutes, bench 195, squat 275, and deadlift 315. Which I considered decent, but nothing to write home about. I will also say that I was about at my limit on these and succeeded only about half the time. I suppose I could go back now, three years older and ten pounds heavier, and see if I've still got it. I could take pictures to show you, if you wanted.


As far as grip strength: yeah, I'll say I won the genetic lottery there. I went to summer camps when I was a preteen where they held dead-hang contests; I always won by a large margin. Even now, with no specific training, I can dead hang from a standard pull-up bar for two minutes. Grace? I'm average, although more flexible than average. Pretty sure that whatever talent I have at climbing comes from just having grip strong like bull. Hands are medium or large, for what it's worth.


That being said, though, swings and roundabouts; I'd trade half my grip strength for a quarter of your social gracefulness, assuming you're not also autistic...when God made me, He must've used a grab bag of random parts off the factory floor or something. I have strong grip, stretchy skin, ADHD, and autism.