Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
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Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
1d ago
Yes, individually these and the below examples are edgy sacred values trolling, but the thing is the pattern.
Stefferi
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2d ago
Stefferi
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2d ago
The endless "Though experiment: what if a scenario where pedo stuff is not actually harmful, or is at least the least harmful option?" assuredly plays a large part.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
2d ago
I mean yeah, I think perhaps the cruel part here is that she was showered with money, attention, fame, and general encouragement because her shctick lined up with progressives stated values.
She was/is not showered with money, attention, fame and general encouragement exactly due to that but moreso for offering the direct possibility or at least a fantasy of sex with an attractive yet intelligent woman for the stereotypically sexless and nerdy rationalist community. It's not progressives in general who are obsessed with Aella (most would of course not even know of her and a large amount of her statements are offensive to progressives as well), it's this one particular group and its subgroups.
Apparently the rainbow was co-opted mostly from the hippies:
"A close friend of Baker's, independent filmmaker Arthur J. Bressan Jr., pressed him to create a new symbol at "the dawn of a new gay consciousness and freedom".[11] According to a profile published in the Bay Area Reporter in 1985, Baker "chose the rainbow motif because of its associations with the hippie movement of the Sixties but he notes that the use of the design dates all the way back to ancient Egypt".[12] People have speculated that Baker was inspired by the Judy Garland song "Over the Rainbow" (Garland being among the first gay icons),[13][14] but when asked, Baker said that it was "more about the Rolling Stones and their song 'She's a Rainbow'".[15] Baker was likely influenced by the "Brotherhood Flag" (with five horizontal stripes to represent different races: red, white, brown, yellow, and black) popular among the world peace movement and hippie movement of the 1960s.[16][17][18][19]"
This seems credible, considering this was somewhat after the Rainbow Family of Living Light had started organizing the still-happening Rainbow Gatherings. I didn't manage to find an explanation of where the hippies took the rainbow from, but the rainbow Peace Flag and the general colorfulness induced by LSD probably play a large influence.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
5d ago
If you think about Kulak, through, the character has gone through shifts. There was the ancap personality on this forum and - I think - the early days of the Twitter account, then the more fashy type of persona, now the same but with a strong pagan/anti-Christian component. Audiences shift and so do the characters.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
5d ago
Also there might simply be that DNC got mad at what seemed like a ploy to force their hand to pick Shapiro and disqualified him for that reason.
Stefferi
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7d ago
I don't see why Trump gives a shit. He can't be reelected anyway, so who cares if the voters hate him?
He himself? He's quite obviously someone who is obsessed with whether the people, or at least his own voter base, like him or not.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
7d ago
The Republican party is generally claimed to be the party of fiscal responsibility. Note the term "claimed" here; I do not think the record of Republican governance proves this claim at all well, but nonetheless the default expectation seems persistent. When I was younger, this was certainly a selling-point of the party to me, and I voted for Bush II in the hope that he'd get government spending under control.
But that would have been right after the years the US federal budget had been running a surplus under the Clinton admin, no?
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
9d ago
Yeah, like, even if you're a guy gooning to porn, you don't generally want to be reminded of being a guy gooning to porn instead of having sex or doing something not involving being ruled by your gonads.
It really begs the question of if the person making the proposal had any awareness of Gamergate back in the day
Probably not.
Even if you don't take the actual hobbies into account, concentrating on hobbies as a way to attract a male audience is utterly tone-deaf. When thinking about politics, men tend to be attracted to political tendencies that conceive politics, or world as general as a struggle - class struggle appealed very strongly to young men during the ascent of socialism, national struggle a bit later, individuals struggling to make a fortune in the market even later than that - and hobbies are what you do when you aren't struggling, even (especially) if they involve a simulated struggle, like video games and sports. "Fight for your right to party" is never an actual platform.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
9d ago
I don't think that Sam Hyde is all that well known, or at least much thought of, among the American left. I just checked and there's not even a Jacobin or Current Affairs article about him. Most of the people who do know about him would probably consider him yesterday's news. I recall some mild cancellation attempts during CumTown era on this axis but evidently they didn't much back then, either.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
10d ago
Whatever the attack, I'm fairly sure that a larger amount of people engaging casually in rhetoric described above are suddenly going to indicate that they didn't mean it that way than say that yes, that's exactly what they meant. Or do what other gun rights people do regarding McVeigh: indicate that the perp was a fed or that it was a fed false flag attack some other way.
There's been a lot of cases where the shooter has deliberately targeted immigrants (in a mosque, a place frequented by immigrants otherwise etc.) and the logic, if cruel, is obvious: create an atmosphere of fear encouraging other immigrants to return back to where they came from and discourage new immigrants from coming in. Some shooters have indicated as much. The same logic as when Hamas continues to shoot rockets seemingly at random or encourage civilian attacks: create fear to discourage aliyah and encourage yerida.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
10d ago
Or "Western countries are about to be overrun by invading immigrants, it's already a civil war, unless we act we are going to be enslaved by Muslims in a short time" and then breaking kayfabe when someone takes up guns and starts fighting the said civil war form the nationalist side.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
11d ago
The pro-Russians tend to outwardly go for a more "rational" style of discourse and pro-Ukrainians for more "emotional", but these are just chosen styles of discourse, they don't actually indicate that one side is more rational and the other more emotional. I still remember how the "rational" pro-Russian warbloggers and -tweeters spent weeks declaring that there's not a slightest chance the Ukrainians would get the city of H'erson back or push Russians out of the Kharkiv oblast and then dropped the whole topic like a hot potato when that happened without any indication of why they were wrong.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
11d ago
Pro-Russians have been shouting about the imminent nuclear war and crazy Ukrainians being on the brink of WW3 for three years now in a row every time that Ukrainians pull a successful operation of some kind (and also between the operations). Isn't it a bit tiresome when WW3 once again fails to happen?
Stefferi
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14d ago
To be fair I'm mostly referring to local discourses, I'm not sure if "vapaa kasvatus" that was the bugaboo referred to here is the exact same thing as free-range parenting even though it's a fairly close translation.
In any case I'd say it was less safetyism and more a concern about whether kids would be getting properly civilized and steered into proper members of the society.
I seem to recall that free range parenting was heavily dunked, particularly by small-c conservative types, in the 90s as hippie bullshit where negligent parents were allowed to turn their kids into unsupervised, uncivilized little menaces that would go on to terrorize their fellow citizens without reprimand. Surely discourses of that sort were one factor why we've swung so heavily into the other extreme.
It might also contribute as much, if not more, than child safety concerns: free range parenting dismissed not so much due to the potential harm to child but the potential harm to the rest of the society. (Many fond memories of childhood spent outside on bikes without supervision often do include tales of mild or not-so-mild vandalism and other lawbreaking in it, after all.)
Stefferi
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16d ago
Yes. Finland-Swedes are ethnic Finns, with some elements of historical immigration from Sweden. Essentially until mid-1800s there was a trend towards Finns rising up in societal ranks to adopt Swedish as language, which was then followed by a trend towards Fennicization, leaving the current 5 % as a remnant.
Also, almost all Swedish-speakers expect those from Åland and maybe the deepest Swedish-speaking countryside tend to also speak native-level or almost native-level Finnish, Linus Torvalds included.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
16d ago
Gaza activists believe that Palestinian lives, lots of time, are on the line right now, which is indeed at any given moment true to some degree (tens? hundreds? thousands? tens of thousands?). They also believe that the West has, within it hands, power to stop Israel on its tracks right now, though typically this doesn't go all the way to promote a direct military intervention. Climate activists, even the most fervent ones, tend to believe in longer timescales - even if they believe that climate effects are killing people now, they acknowledge that any law that might be passed due to their actions will only have an effect within a longer period, and that effect will be at most something that blunts the effect, not stop it completely.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
20d ago
I tend to feel the odd one out in these discussions, since tattoos (at least in standard locations, in standard amounts, with standard designs) have never bothered me, even though I don't have any. I've considered it at times but it always then seems like a thing where there's just better personal uses for my money. My wife has a couple and I mostly tend to forget they even exist unless a discussion like this specifically reminds me of them. Excessive piercing is another matter, though.
Getting tattooed in a big way seems to be a Millennial thing, I don't see as many tattoos in younger generations, though of course it also takes time and money to get a major collection of tattoos going.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
22d ago
What does "push" mean here, concretely? Generally, in cases of ethnic cleansing, it means "threaten people with lethal violence unless they move", which is why the term is often just taken to be mostly equivalent to genocide. If the Gazans say "hell no, we won't go", what happens to them?
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
23d ago
People calling them "shots" or "jabs" (like for Covid) instead of vaccines probably has less to do with anything like that and more with it being shorter to say words with one syllable instead of two.
Probably because he directly argued against the claim here.
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