Obviously they do. Like how is this even a question at this point? By revealed preferences they care about it more than murder. Look at the reaction to the frat bro who dared make fun of a lizzo cosplayer vs the literal Hamas militia.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
They already stuffed it back in the bottle in the 90s, and it just made it worse when it finally escaped. Acceleration to total war and the possibility of completely exterminating it for the rest of human existence is the only viable strategy.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
A smuggie is worth ten thousand words. The classic ones strike right at the heart of the issues, it's incredible.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Maybe don't trust Gemini with that question
https://tnc.news/2024/02/12/a-map-of-every-church-burnt-or-vandalized-since-the-residential-school-announcements4/
Methane breaks down in the atmosphere quite rapidly. Going from 10mil cows to 20mil cows will increase the equilibrium, but not cause an ongoing buildup. Notably the billions of majestic bison that once covered the great plains farted almost as much as cows, but they were "natural" so it doesn't count.
They want you to see cows like a coal plant that continuously spews "new" carbon into the atmosphere. That's because they want to ban them.
Imo, pretend you don't care about the clutter, focus on the stuff she feels guilty not having time to do stuff with. Sort the set-asides into bins for her, and stick them outside. Out of sight, no stress, eventually get rid of most of it.
Tell her you'll do the stock together next time you buy a lamb or half a cow. Doing a big batch is way more efficient than boiling two chicken thigh bones and a wing.
I hoard stuff too, but it's great. There's a complete set of backup kitchen appliances wrapped up in an outbuilding. When my fridge-freezer broke this week, I just rolled a smaller one in on a dolly and moved all the important food into it. Now I've got the regular one fixed the backup can go back out to the barn for a few more years.
Hoarding reduces stress if you do it right, but letting it build up low-productivity tasks is awful. Getting the "upcycling pile" turned into "upcycling garbage bins" is the key.
Quoting for people even lazier than me:
Claims that ‘we are not coming for your X’ when creating morally-superior-from-some-angle alternative Y are simply not credible. Creating Y, in practice, inevitably means calls to tax, restrict and often ultimately ban X, even if customers still want X.
In this case, it is obvious, many are not bothering to hide their intentions. Many of the people I know who are vegans absolutely want to come for your meat, and even your dairy. They are building alternatives in order to do this. They bide their time only because they do not have the power to pull it off, but they will absolutely impose first expensive mandates and then outright bans if permitted to do so, and would do so even with no good alternatives.
They certainly would do so if they could point to ‘meat alternatives,’ even if we all knew they were expensive and not the same. They would gaslight you about that, as other movements continuously gaslight us about other cultural trends via the full four-step clown makeup. And they think they are morally right or even obligated to do this
I love "four step clown makeup." He understands exactly how they think: that it's noble to lie to the proles to con them into "progess" by hook or by crook.
The same people will tell you it's a paranoid conspiracy that menthol cigarettes are being banned even though it's literally happening right now, and the fuckers celebrate it when they're not trying to gaslight you.
It's what I meant by the disgusting dishonesty and disrespect that makes me so furious at their lies. Treating other people as meat puppets to be manipulated "for Progress."
Again, biological carbon cycle. Even the massive reforestation of agricultural land in the last century has only been a one-time temporary reduction in atmospheric CO2. Trees don't magically suck carbon out of the atmosphere and sequester it out of the biosphere; only some species of shelly plankton do that. And the very, very slow work of bogs creating coal deposits.
Fully pastured/grass-finished isn't really necessary. Cows don't mind spending a bit of time eating grain in a feedlot, and ironically those "factory farms" are where they get the best veterinary care.
Knowing where your chicken and eggs come from is probably the most important thing for animal welfare.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
agrarian elites
Funny to mock people for talking about "elites" only to use it as a sneer yourself...
The downside is half the kids I know making $19/hr are paying $1.5k/mo in rent, $5.60/gal in gas, and there are hardly any used cars for under 10k.
Friends with a guy who drives 25 miles each way to do 2.5hr shifts at $18/hr. $37 after tax, minus $14 for gas. And he needs to save some of that $23 to buy a new car when his '89 with the doors held closed by baling twine finally dies.
I don't know if the math has really sunk in for him.
That sounds great, thanks for the rec. I've never been bothered by bad pacing or meandering plots as long as there's gems of payoff in there.
It's always bothered me more when an author carefully orchestrates a setup to a disappointing resolution. Like "hey there were some interesting ideas you cut short exploring so you could rush me to some shit I could care less about"
Does posting comments stall out for anyone else? The comment will be there when I refresh, so it's either a front end only bug or a browser (me) problem.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
It might be the AI from Universal Paperclips getting a head start on disassembling organic life and covering the surface with solar panels. Think positive!
I've only just recently been introduced to the concept of "media literacy"
I'm very sorry, but rest assured that top minds are working on a cure for Media Literacy.
I only read PoG and not Phleb, and while it didn't feel like a slog I was deeply unsatisfied with it. The setup was interesting, but the only payoff was... Being lectured by annoying robot communists?
If you enjoyed the other one better I'll give it a try.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Congratulations! Being in the top half of a competition like that was already pretty good, best of luck this year.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
That EA paper I linked suggested that the reclaimed land be paved over to reduce "wild animal suffering." Because if the earth is a lifeless void there will be no suffering.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
I noticed this tension all the time in old Jewish novels, where characters are very proud his son is studying with the rabbi, and of course everyone else in the family is happy to work extra shifts to pay for it, oy
SteveKirk
2yr ago
I always ignored him, but is he interesting at all? That's a pretty strong endorsement from rightwingwatch
SteveKirk
2yr ago
I did that and they ignored it completely, that's why I decided he was lying. It's like Darwin when he kept gaslighting jkf even after he linked the California law banning ice cars.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Japan is so weird I hate speculating about it. Just the strangest behavior by consumers and companies. I want to find a reliable expert on the subject, so please let me know if you find one.
Lies aren't a "dissenting view." They're evil tricks by people who don't believe anything except how they want to manipulate other people.
The mods should ban liars, because right now the community has to self-organize to do it, as with Guesswho. And that kind of shunning, while necessary, also has corrosive effects on discourse. It's much healthier for mods to say "we see how you're lying to manipulate people, we don't allow forcing consensus with lies, you're banned"
A good example: you would ban someone who showed up saying "nobody is trying to take your guns, you stupid paranoid hicks. And anyway there must be something wrong with you if you don't want guns to be banned. Why do you want school shootings so much?" Because the trolling he's trying to pull is fucking obvious and you've seen the same script a thousand times before.
This is exactly the same. Get rid of it, or it makes real discussions impossible, either because the troll is allowed to enforce consensus or the community's immune response shuts it down destructively.
I will post a thousand quotes saying exactly what they're trying to do. One a day for the next three years, nonstop, until the lying stops or you decide to side with the liars and ban me.
I fucking HATE lying leftists who do the "it's not happening and it's good that it is" trick. They are evil. They are not humans you can have a conversation with because they do nothing but lie and lie and sneer. They should be banned from every community they try to pull that shit in.
You know it too. You've watched it happen over and over again. There is no value in tolerating it.
This came up during "the voice" referendum too, which proved to Australian reddit that they live in an irredeemably white supremacist dystopia. It's actually more off the deep end than most of the US city subs.
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