Can you link a study on that from any group that isn't openly pushing to abolish meat? Because I'm familiar with the propaganda tricks: classifying all rain that falls on grazing lands as "water used for animals", etc.
I know what my inputs and outputs are, and the inputs are extremely minimal. It's likely that the US wastes a lot of grain fattening up cows and even sheep (US carcass weights for "lambs" are double the UK's, which hurts quality for zero benefit), but those are inefficiencies due to our historically cheap feed prices and lack of innovation in decaying markets.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Meanwhile the other side already uses government money to publish anti-meat propaganda. The reasonable answer is to grab the gun of state power and dump the mag before they get their hands on it, because they won't hesitate for a second once they have it pointed at you.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Please don't do this pretending not to know who he's talking about thing. It's embarrassing.
He can link you a dozen lesswrong-ea-bay-area-forum posts that you're already familiar with, so all this does is waste everyone's time for a low effort sneer.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
The vegan nerds can't be said to be "behind" the push for fake meat, because the endless funding is coming from the "elite" set desantis identified.
It's probably a lot more expensive than real meat in any reasonable scenario. In most soypunk the farmland is all poisoned nuclear waste, not that scifi writers have enough understanding of economics to make the alternatives realistic.
Meat might be the most capital+labor/calorie efficient food ever. Vegan nerd fantasies of vertical soy farms powered by millions of acres of solar panels can't match up to species that turn sunlight and rain into steak all by themselves.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
The groups pushing lab grown meat are already talking about banning real meat, so it seems both fair and sensible to do unto them first.
I think there should be consequences for everyone who tried to say "nobody supports Hamas!"
They were wrong or they were lying. They shouldn't get to pretend they never said it.
Joe Biden is not going to send the troops in to escort male athletes into the high school girl's locker room in an election year.
Are you sure about this? A huge portion of the dem activist base would cream their pants at the thought of doing this, and the white house is run by that base.
The fact that this administration already pulled out a title IX rewrite that enforces an extremist doctrine no liberal would have endorsed until a few months ago should be a sign that they are not motivated by what wins votes.
The transsexual issue is the ultimate expression of pure power dragging the party by the hair behind it, down to the fleshing table in the basement.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Thanks, that's something to chew on. I was only going off the novel, looks like I was on the right track about his takes on religion.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Jordan Peterson is a case where we know he was targeted for destruction, because the people doing it said they were doing it. The mob helped, natural social media mechanics helped, but there were malicious actors with an open goal of "neutralizing an influencer radicalizing young men by any means necessary."
SteveKirk
2yr ago
I know, it's just that I'm finally hitting my breaking point. Mostly it's that a few people who were generic libs but mocked "the weird ones" have suddenly gone all-in on quoting reddit posts, with seemingly no sense that their perspective has changed.
I've always put up with this kind of thing before, but I'm this close to cutting back my circle of friends to a handful of shared hobby autists and redneck coworkers.
It's this depressing feeling that I was never really friends with a person who existed, just a living chatbot that had a new gpt lobotomy update.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
I have pretty much had it with people who ranted about "trump disrespecting the troops!" now waving the flag of Hezbollah who actually killed a lot of those troops.
The next time a Democrat starts regurgitating NPR at me I'm going to end up saying something friendship-ruiningly impolite because I just can't hold in the anger at this stupidity any more. It's almost worse than 2020 because the deranged hysteria isn't happening in unique circumstances.
How do you all deal with this every day?
SteveKirk
2yr ago
I need a good bio of him for my book report, do you know any? Obviously I can't trust anything from Wikipedia.
I was chuckling and looking for the retweet button before realizing this is a different site. Your friend sounds like he posts bangers
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Im going to have to quote this post for my review of The Turner Diaries. "American whites are just mindless cattle, barely more human than blacks, and only the best of them are fit for redemption through revolutionary purging" is a literal quote from the heroes.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
That econ history minor paying off just as well as my advisor said it would lol
SteveKirk
2yr ago
I think you'd have to go back to the 1300s at least for British peasants to be as bad off as Indian ones.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Steam is so weird about it they even removed a completely safe for work game just because it had art by Muk. There's been feuding review teams at Valve since the old Hatred scandal, so their policy is schizo.
I can link some of the new aid package grants as backup if you like. There's a lot of "$950,000 for empowering equitable feminist solar infrastructure stakeholder committees in Ukraine."
The country is going to look very different when the US is done with it. And not "richer," since most of the money will end up as kickbacks to western NGOs.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
Eventually? It already happened.
Fincen started to fight money laundering and international tax fraud. Now it's being used to make dossiers on domestic political opponents. Shop at Cabelas, you're on a list.
All the worst case scenarios have already happened so fast nobody noticed. The Democrats have complete institutional control of the government and zero qualms about abusing it.
SteveKirk
2yr ago
I hate the current year so much. The awful combination of performative histrionic prudishness and obnoxious, ubiquitous safe-horny normie-fap-bait.
Furries go around naming projects after horse diaper fetishes and nobody gives a shit because uwu programmer socks tee hee, but this gets their panties in a twist?
SteveKirk
2yr ago
But they're also one of the worst offenders attacking popular content for arbitrary reasons. They'll order takedowns of "big titty high school ninjas 7", but give government art grants to obese men dressing up in latex women masks to perform home castrations and penis bisections on themselves.
They want to ban independent production of pornography for the same reason they ban independent schooling: so it can be run by men like Helmut Kentler.
If violence is your last resort, you're not prepared to use it at all. Von Neumann knew there was only one way to get it done: “If you say why not bomb them tomorrow, I say why not today?”
You don't need to be frothing at the mouth and shooting every minute of every day, but it needs to be the goal you base all your other plans around reaching or it will never happen, just like writing a novel.
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