StopSpreadingBullshit
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... you think it's normal that Biden bragged about having Ukrainian prosecuted fired for investigating Burisma, the company that was paying off Hunter Biden ?
Probably Bundestag MPs also had their children employed by Burisma.
And some guy from SBU who accused Shokin of corruption and demanded his resignation also had dealing with Burisma.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2015/11/12/7088525/
And members of Kharkiv Human Rights Group...
https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2016/01/7/7094715/
And dozens of Ukrainian MPs...
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
No, that disproves your assertion that Shokin was fired on behest of Biden Sr because the latter wanted Shokin not to investigate his son. Of course, you could say that it WAS the real reason, and Biden just used reputation of Shokin being a corrupt prosecutor for plausible deniability in getting him fired. But then argue accordingly, not just put it as an undeniable fact.
Also Hunter Biden didn't commit any crime according to Ukrainian law by working there. Zlochevsky, the head of Burisma, most likely did - but then it was during presidential term of Yanukovich, a figure very much beloved by some on American far right and far left, deposed by the evil CIA.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
In any normal county, a politician whose junkie son gets $50k a month from a sinecure in a famously corrupt country overseas would instantly be embroiled in a huge scandal.
Says a person from Slovakia 😩
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
Yes, yes. Why would anything be wiped from the internet? Kolomoisky is investigated.
It's there for anyone to see — like the fact that Slovakia is one of the most corrupt states in Europe — worse than Georgia or Rwanda. Nothing wrong with it — you made a great progress since mid 90s, being in EU and all that.
Now, Slovakia isn't a normal country, but at least half of the parties wouldn't tolerate something like this, and it definitely wouldn't fly anywhere in western Europe.
But that's interesting — right? The only people who like to talk about Ukrainian corruption or Hunter Biden so much are Orbanites from Hungary, russophiles from Bulgaria, Slovakia in your case, MAGA people (who are linked to Paul Manafort — one of the most corrupt people in recent Ukrainian and American history), Trump himself — all exemplars of honesty and incorruptibility. I find it hilarious. Clean your own stables.
But thanks for Zuzanas.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
Don't thank me
Yes, no need to thank a fifth columnist.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
I was never asked about NATO membership, would vote against it.
Knowing your kind, people like you rarely ever vote, and know culture war figures from the US better than their local representatives. "Local corruption? Nah, what about transsexuals in Virginia?"
Roughly 40% of Slovaks agree with me.
Less than the support of Tiso party in 1938 elections? Good.
Well, this is definitely not true for Donbass or Melitopol.
Where we see both people who are ready to kill in order to NOT be Ukrainians and people who are generally loyal to the Russian government.
Did you read it on Grey Zone?
EDIT: you can argue about Donbass (never been there), especially LDNR. But I lived for a long period of time in a small town on the coast of Azov Sea, an hour-long drive from Melitopol, I generally know attitude of people there.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
More importantly they are superficial, morally subhuman.
But didn't you fall for the same dynamics? "Subhuman" is not much better than an "orc". And the reasoning of many people who call Z-Russians "orcs" is the same as yours — they [Z-Russians] lack empathy and dehumanize Ukrainians. Of course, there are unironic Nazis who consider Russians "subhumans" quite literally — but they are clearly in minority.
It's difficult not to feel rage at people who cry about a monument to Catherine II being removed (we even had several people like that here) or Tchaikovsky being "cancelled" while being completely silent on dozens of civilians dying every day due to Russian artillery or missile strikes.
What should be the attitude of Ukrainians faced with the prospect of "svinorez"?
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
Let's not pretend that for Eastern European aficionados of American Culture War it is something more than a hobby and an outrage porn. Slovakian politics, I would presume, is just boring in comparison to American.
arrive in few years even to remote rural Slovakia.
I don't believe it's true, but that's what they like to tell to justify them participating in Culture War. The general advise "to touch grass" still applies.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
They've threatened 15 year jail sentences for those who did vote in the most recent Russian referenda.
It is just untrue. Only organizing said referenda (as well as participation in any "counting commissions" etc.) falls under "treason" charges. One can participate in them, because no one would be able to prove that it was willingly, and not under duress. The same goes for "receiving humanitarian aid" from Russians — Russians spread this rumor to enforce compliance: "aha, you got some canned fish from us, now when Ukrainian authorities will learn of that, you'll get imprisoned, now you better obey us".
I am a Ukrainian, and usually just lurk, but I see so. Much. Bullshit. Spread. Around. From both sympathetic to Ukrainians people admittedly, but much more so from all those American internet contrarians. Starting with silly ("Zelensky prohibited letter Z! What a moron! Doesn't he know he has Z in his surname" — on /pcm it had probably 5k updoods, and many people uncritically assumed it's true); but also the standard tropes like "Maidan was a CIA plot!", "Zelensky prohibited all socialist parties!" and so on. Of course, all those people have never been to Ukraine, have no idea how Ukrainian politics is organized, don't read Ukrainian media, and don't know how people on the ground really feel.
But they watched maybe a couple videos on the subject including "Ukraine on Fire", read Karlin, and some others just as uninformed people as themselves on reddit and here, and now they think they are qualified to comment on the subject. Maybe those internet commentators should learn some humility? I don't comment on e.g. Finnish politics, and me knowing that people like "Sanna Marin", or "True Finns" exist, doesn't make me an expert, I just read Stefferi, and quietly updood.
Sorry for the rant.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
Obviously he lists scenarios that he prefers and finds probable, and not "aliens wipe out all human life, and the war becomes irrelevant". So it should be "The war will only end [in an acceptable to me and most Finnish people manner]".
This statement is, very obviously, factually untrue
Serious question (please don't take this as an offense — it's not intended as such) — are you autistic? You were the one, I believe, who said that living in Odesa and removing the statue of Catherine was a contradiction. And here you chose the most literal interpretation of this politician's words.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
the US expanding right into Eastern Europe
Can we put this argument to rest? No one forced Poland, Czechia, Slovakia and the rest of Eastern Europe into NATO. Russia likes to talk about "sovereignty", but evidently it's "sovereignty for me, but not for thee"
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
At least for now Poles insist it was a Russian missile. Just came in:
Polish MFA summoned the Russian ambassador.
They'll too take a huge credibility hit if that's indeed a Ukrainian missile.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
Another side of the story that might have significance — a Russian missile hit a power plant that was responsible for supplying electricity to the oil pipeline that delivers Russian oil to Hungary, so there was a disruption in the supply.
Orban called for a security meeting over this. Being friendly to Russia, I doubt he will condemn Russia, but who knows.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
where disposing of those people would have been a natural choice that would have been very advantageous to Russia if optics of PoW treatment were not a concern
Did you miss what happened at Elenovka? Or do you find Russian version plausible, that it was a Ukrainian strike on their own people because "they started to talk about crimes of Zelensky"? By the way, UN had to disband the group tasked with investigating what happened there because Russia denied the investigators access.
An extremely unlucky coincidence is more probable than intentional Russian strike, or Ukrainian provocation though. Putin is a trickster, and a manipulator, yes, but he won't get anything by striking Poland, the only far-fetched explanation (that it's an "off-ramp" that would allow him to justify withdrawal from Ukraine) I think we can dismiss. Also some pro-Russians push the version that it's an attempt of Ukraine to draw NATO into the war — I too find not credible. Mostly because American GEOINT and MASINT is quite advanced, and with American help Poles won't have trouble to piece together what exactly happened.
I think we should look at the event holding this thought — that in a day, or two, or maybe a week NATO will know precisely what happened — whether it was a Russian missile, or a Ukrainian AA missile, or maybe both (e.g. if Ukrainian missile intercepted a Russian missile, and they both fell on those poor farmers). And I think Russian, Polish, Ukrainian and American authorities understand this. Kuleba already said that it wasn't a Ukrainian missile
https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1592633235754057728?cxt=HHwWgIDQqazflZosAAAA
if he lied, or even was misinformed, Ukrainian credibility will take a hit. At the same time, Russians are no strangers to lying (think of their behavior during MH17 events), so they'll say "it wasn't us" either way.
EDIT: Remember the Ukrainian airplane that Iran shot down (what an irony)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752
Americans leaked that it was Iranian AA the next day, on Jan 9th. And they were monitoring Iranian airspace in the aftermath of Soleimani just as they monitor Ukrainian airspace now.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
You believe heroes can have offshore banking accounts paid for by corrupt oligarchs now hiding in Israel
btw, you betrayed your ignorance on the subject by not knowing that Kolomoisky is not in Israel right now, and he wasn't there for the last 2 years. As well by the fact there is a case opened against him in Ukraine, so he stays there. Before talking about things, you better educate yourself.
Yeah, yeah. Median monthly salary in Russia is around 400-500 USD
https://tass.com/economy/1301957
Just a little lower in Ukraine. Somehow this huge GDP and revenues from exporting raw materials didn't translate in passable living standards for people outside of several large cities.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
Both Slovakia and Croatia existed as distinct parts of Czechoslovakia (it's in the name) and Yugoslavia before Hitler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banovina_of_Croatia
They did not preserve their independence past WW2.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
Second, proxy wars. Georgia is a perfect example. The creation of a supply and training base for Chechen fighters through the Caucasus mountains is a catastrophic threat that almost nothing can counter
You probably haven't heard about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Abkhazia_(1992–1993)
Russian meddling in affairs of its neighbors began long before 2008, or Chechen Wars. So it was really the other way around — fighters from North Caucasus (including Chechens) supported by RF invaded Georgia and fought against government forces, and eventually prevailed. Also they participated in cleansing of ethnic Georgians there. It really shows how disingenuous this argument is
we invade neighboring countries, incite instability there; oh how awful, now they hate us, we must invade them to secure our borders!
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
Theft is immoral. And something given has no value.
Those two are normative statements.
You will not reduce poverty by gifting the poor the rich's wealth.
And this statement is positive, and it doesn't follow from those before it.
It doesn't work.
That's what almost every state in the world does (except Haiti, maybe). Including Singapore, Nordic countries, United States... Or are you a hardcore libertarian who is against taxation?
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
How would you go about resolving this disagreement?
A large number of gender reassignment surgeries, for example.
StopSpreadingBullshit
1yr ago
By the way, how people live in Donetsk and Luhansk now? Good? Did they benefit from all those oil money? I guess people like a former MMM conman made governor, or a former bank robber made military commander did. Can they express their position freely, and not to afraid of reprisals from MGB/FSB, or "podvals"? I guess it's Russia now, life should be great.
It's the simplest and most logical explanation. Russians launched almost 100 missiles at power plants and substations across the country, why would Ukrainian purposefully sabotage it? Also it's unlikely that Russians targeted one power plant, but an AA missile fell on another.
I think it is understandable that people who lost their children are incredibly vindictive. The perpetrator is dead (and he wasn't even punished as he shot himself — so he died his own, most likely pre-planned way), so the next target of the revenge is Alex Jones. We talk here about "decoupling", but it's easy to do "decoupling" for those who didn't suffer through the horrible loss ("Didn't these parents read Milton? They are such morons!"). Also, why did you put the word "victims" in quotes? Jones doubling down doesn't help him: "The verdict, he said, was an attempt to 'scare us away from questioning Uvalde and what really happened there, or Parkland or any other event'". This behavior doesn't invite compassion.
Position of the judges or journalists on the subject is something else entirely (as they should have higher ability to "decouple"), but I wanted to address the apparent lack of empathy in your post.
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