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TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
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Part of me sympathizes with TWG but only part.
Back in the twenty-teens he was a vocal advocate of the sort of "full spectrum information manipulation" that has become the standard. Where he once bragged about fabricacating evidence to pwn LibsOfTikTok he now wonders why nobody trusts him.
All identities are fundamentally made-up categories.
Now you are begining to see the long game. Either we discredit identity politics entirely, or we build a new(old?) identity of 'Murica. Wherein all men of all colors and creeds can be united in thier love for baseball, football, barbecue, and their disdain for Eurotrash.
"White people"? no. Because "white people" is a stupid made-up catagory with no real basis in history, culture, or science. Anglos, French, Italians, Portuguese, Et Al. on the other hand...
Again, I see this as a clear case of "your rules (Identity-politics) enforced fairly" vs. "your rules (Identity-politics) enforced unfairly".
You are clearly unfamiliar with the common game theoretic formulation of "My rules > your rules enforced fairly > your rules enforced unfairly"
Im not endorsing identity politics. Im saying that "your rules (Identity-politics) enforced fairly" is preferable to "your rules (Identity-politics) enforced unfairly".
Its not "accelerationism", its an incremental step towards the pro-civilizational end goal. We are going from "your rules enforced unfairly" to "your rules enforced fairly" and if either the woke left or dissident right have a problem with that, crush them.
So does their opposition
No it doesn't, that is what so much of the recent wailing and gnashing of teeth from journalists, academics, and establishment politicians boils down to. "The normies" have gone off-script, they aren't listening. The merchant and working castes have gotten uppity, and are running the table on the priests. What a disaster.
Appealing to 4-year-olds doesn't help;
It doesn't just "help", it is a necessity if you're going to get them to do anything. I can tell that you don't have kids.
Well, no, they didn't.
Observation seems to indicate otherwise.
not only has it turned out to be exactly the disaster everyone predicted it would be it's all about a rounding error of US spending'.
Has it though?
We are only three weeks in, the term is still young. Sure, all the very serious people at Politico are screaming about how terrible and disastrous it is that thier tax-payer funded sinecures are being threatened but why should we as tax-payers care?
Good.
This strikes me as an easy lay-up from the perspective of both the Trad and MAGA right. Jews are clearly a minority so if we are going to have carve-outs for minority-owned buisinesses they should obviously apply to jews.
Both the woke left and dissident right hate jews so naturally they're going to argue against this move, which in turn will only hieghten the contridictions furthering the shared Trad/MAGA goal of discrediting/dismantling Id-Pol entirely.
Its not 4-d chess, but it is some competent Jui Jitsu.
Seek out a movie called the Paper Chase if you haven't already.
I dont think that means it "goes both ways" as much as it's just two different people who are both going the same way.
The Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs may each view the other as a bitter rival, but from a 10,000 foot view, both are NFL teams, both are playing in the superbowl, and both have (or had) a star player with the surname Kelce whos mother's name is Donna, so how different can they really be?
I posit that both lavors of freak-out (Chapo and 4chan) come from the same psychological space/impulse, because I think you are correct that, exercising agency is not what they want. Exercising agency is uncomfortable, it means accepting risks, and owning consequences. By the nature of the roles they play, the working caste and the merchant/buisiness caste are both forced to be intimately aware of risk and consequence. The priestly caste on the other hand...
I do not think that what you are describing is "the inverse of the priestly caste" so much as what happens to members (or prospective members) of the priestly caste who "wash-out" or otherwise can't keep up with the pack. At the risk of psychologizing my opponents i think that a lot of the ire directed towards the Elon Musks and Panda Express Managers of the world boils down class resentment. Both the Chapo-listener and the 4channer like to imagine themselves as being in a class above, and so when they see "a normie" or "a pleb" who is manifestly more successful and/or influential than they are, it pisses them off.
I think this aptly explains both "Trump Derangement Syndrome" and the much of the wailing and gnashing of teeth surrounding mis/disinformation. The priestly caste just can't handle the idea that more people are getting thier news from Joe Rogan than they are CNN or the New York Times.
Rousseau's ghost haunts Liberalism, locked in an eternal battle with Hobbes. Rules of Nature.
It's Hlinka's simulation, the rest of us are just living in it.
Some scattered thoughts on personal Agency.
A number of recent comments about consciousness, agency, neurological development, and Trump's first couple weeks in office have gotten me thinking...
When you first bring home a new baby they are functionally just a lump of flesh that converts milk into noise and feces. At some point in the first year they transition from a mostly inert lump to a small animal seemingly intent on ending itself. Like a moth beating itself against a light-bulb you can practically watch the random path Selection algorithm execute in real time. Over time though a transition occurs. Simple insect level algorithms give way to basic instincts (eat, sleep, squirrel!) which are in turn displaced by something else. What exactly that something is hard to characterize, but one day you wake up, look down there is suddenly a tiny person looking back at you. Someone with a personality, opinions, and a complete disregard for neither propriety nor posterity. They just do things.
My point with this tangent is that children (especially small children) are basically just little bundles of human agency. I make this observation to contrast it with a sentiment that I commonly see expressed here. The sentiment that "the voters", "the normies", "the plebs", or whatever you want to call the teaming masses of humanity, are "barely sentient" and "less developed" than those of us that post on theMotte and that "the normie" will inevitably believe/do whatever they are told to by their betters. In short, "the normies" are not agents in their own right. When I see such sentiments expressed, one of my first thoughts is often "this person has clearly never tried to wrangle a 4-year-old"
It seems to me that the minimization (if not outright dismissal) of the role human consciousness and agency plays has become a core belief of our intellectual/managerial class. Most of our existing intellectual and managerial norms seem to be oriented around deflecting and diffusing blame such that no one person ever has to make and, and more importantly own, a decision. It's not the individual who is responsible, it is society, it is the process, it is "structural" issues. The buck is passed from hand, to hand, to hand, until it is worn away to nothing.
Nobody feels responsible for anything and so everything just gets shittier.
I think that much the managerial class' collective freak-out over and antipathy towards Trump, Musk, and "MAGA" movement in general is rooted in the observation that "the normies" have demonstrated that they are not going to just believe/do whatever they are told. That they are agents in their own right.
"You can't just decide to not trust someone because they lied to you in the past, or because they might have an agenda" cries the priestly caste. "The fuck we can't" the normies respond. "Nobody elected Elon Musk" cries the priestly caste, "We elected the guy who said he would hire Musk to take a chainsaw to the federal budget. Also, who elected you?" the normies respond.
I am surprised that other people seem to be surprised by this. As Steven A Smith put it in his interview with Bill Maher, most of the complaints about Trump in the last 2-3 week boil down to "he did what he said he was going to do". That is not much of a criticism if you ask me, if anything it is an endorsement because who the fuck does that these days?
So what?
If the US was indeed "vastly inferior at warfighting" the gemans should have been able to roll them up with minimal effort given that they had a 2 to 1 numerical advantage and that western air-power had been grounded by the weather.
Nothing Ever Happens. DOGE is as good as dead.
Identify politics is absolutely a progressive ideology and its proponents (in the US at least) are almost all either current or former progressives.
Similarly the people most vocally in favor of privileging "inate group differences" over individual differences/merit tend live in "blue" counties and voted for either Kamala Harris or a third party, whereas the people opposed to racial sinecures and Identity-Politics voted overwhelmingly for Trump.
You may not like it, but this is what an accurate map of the current US political landscape looks like.
You're doing the old commie routine of "it wasn't real communism"
No, I don't think I am. I am not saying that true liberalism has never been tried or that true liberalism does not exist. Just the opposite in fact. True liberalism has been tried. There was a dream that was Rome.
What I am saying is that the ideology currently identifying as liberalism, is not only not "liberalism" as Adam Smith or Abraham Lincoln would have understood it, it is a repudiation of that ideology.
Where old-fashioned liberalism talked about all men being created equal (note "created" not "are currently") and judging people by the content of thier character, not the color of thier skin. Modern "liberalism" says the opposite. Thou shalt not pass judgment on on a persons character, or behavior. A person's skin color is more important than who they are as individuals. Opposition to the dictat of everything within the state nothing outside the state is "Fascism".
How old-fashioned is tabula rasa liberalism really?
At least two hundred years old and arguably closer to two thousand depending on how broadly you want to define it.
"wokeness" follows from Marx. A vangaurd party seizing the means of cultural production rather than material production, to establish a dictatorship of the vanguard party.
The the belief in the absolute power of the state/society is where leftism parts ways with old-fashioned liberalism.
Let's agree to disagree.
John Grillington, lifelong center-right suburbanite, has voting preferences indistinguishable from a literal neo-nazi. One shouldn't draw overly strong conclusions from that.
Should we not though?
I know from experience that DR3 ie "Democrats are the real racists" is a widely disparaged take here but when the voting preferences of literal neo-nazis are functionally identical to those of the woke left, shouldn't that give you pause?
Who's accusing who of "fascism" again? I cant help but notice parallels between the origins of national socialism durring the inter-war period, (seizing the means of cultural production) and the rise of the woke left over the last 20 years.
The Ardennes Offensive, aka the Battle of the Bulge.
Approx. 52,000 german troops against approx. 20,000 Americans who where cut off and surrounded. On paper it should've been an easy win for the Germans, why wasn't it?
rDrama was always kind of nuts and they have always been mean.
The man came out defending HBD. I can't think of many things less leftist.
Perhapse this is an issue of different cultures, but within the specific context of US politics HBD tends to get lumped in with race-essentialism as a subset of collectivist/identity politics, which is in turn closely associated with the US Left, and the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party in particular.
The last man to win an election that way in America did so in 2020.
Did he really win though? or did the experts and the neoliberal establishment use the disruption and mass hysteria of COVID + BLM as cover to put a puppet on the throne?
What does "qualified" in your eyes even look like?
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