TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
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TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1d ago
I think it may have been the lying about thier existing capabilities while looking to expand said capabilities that might've tipped the scales.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1d ago
Are you trying to Bugs Bunny me?
You're the one who made the claim that 95%+ of employed programmers were literature majors with no background in computer science, not me.
Closest facsimile i can think of would be North and South Korea, though that is tempered by the consideration that even though they are both "officially" still in a state of war, both have repeatedly and publicly stated that they are waiting for the other to break the cease-fire, and so the cease-fire has continued to hold.
In contrast Iran has been providing technical and financial support to Hamas and the Houthis as well as taking pot-shots at the other Gulf states for decades now so thier credibility on the whole "we're not looking for trouble" front is basically zero.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1d ago
Because, as it is below, the controversy is the point.
Some background for those just tuning in.
In short, Ali Hosseini Khamenei, the head of state for the Islamic Repubic of Iran has stated on multiple occasions his desire to see "the Jews driven into the sea" and "eradicated". To this end it has been the official position of the Isreali government for decades now that a nuclear armed Iran poses an existential threat, and that they will take any and all action neccesary to prevent this. Most of the negotiations between the US, Iran, and other Arab countries over the last 15 years (Obama's vaunted "Nuclear Deal" and Trump's "Abraham Accords" to name two examples) have been oriented towards heading off this eventuality. However a recent report from the International Atomic Energy Agency suggests that Iran has been concealing thier true capabilities and that they may be mere weeks from having a functional bomb if they do have one already and that furthermore they are expanding thier uranium enrichment facilities.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1d ago
For what it's worth I have also noticed this pattern. There seems to be this presumption that disagreement must stem from misunderstandings or poor messaging rather than sincere values differences.
Im not suggesting that we liquidate the undesirables im saying that we should seriously consider the positive effects of mass euthanasia on overall quality of life.
I do not think that expecting basic competency is an "insane standard" or even that elitist. Stop making excuses for sub-par work and answer the question.
Which LLM are you using to write FORTRAN?
What sort of problem did you ask it to solve?
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
2d ago
People I know who are unaware of themotte genuinely think he's a Canadian girl of rhodesian ancestry. He plays along despite fucking podcasts where his voice is octaves deeper than the average guy.
I just assumed they were Trans.
This is the kind of thinking that is impressed by calculators because it doesn't properly understand what's hard about some things.
Ironically I considered saying almost this exact thing in my above comment, but scratched it out as too antagonistic.
The high-school students and literature majors are impressed by LLMs ability to write code because they do not know enough about coding to know what parts are easy and what parts are hard.
Writing something that looks like netcode and maybe even compiles/runs is easy. (All you need is a socket, a for loop, a few if statements, a return case, and you're done) Writing netcode that is stable, functional, and secure enough to pass muster in the banking industry is hard. This is what i was gesturing towards with "Bouba" vs "Kiki" distinction. Banks are notoriously "prickly" about thier code because banking (unlike most of what Facebook, Amazon, and Google do) is one of those industries where the accuracy and security of information are core concerns.
Finally which LLM are you using to write FORTRAN? because after some brief experimentation niether Gemini nor Claude are anywhere close.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3d ago
Goodness knows it’s bad enough when merely inexperienced programmers ask for review without first asking advice on how to approach the problem, or even without serious testing…
I know that pain.
As somone who's been working in the field of machine learning since 2012 and generally agrees with @SubstantialFrivolity's assesment, I think that what we are looking here is a bifurcation in opinion between people looking for "bouba" solutions and those looking for "kiki" solutions.
If you're a high-school student or literature major with zero background in computer science looking to build a website or develop baby's first mobile app LLM generated code is a complete game changer. Literally the best thing since sliced bread. (The OP, and @self_made_human's comments reflect this)
If you're a decently competent programmer at a big tech firm, LLMs are at best a mild productivity booster. (See @kky's comments below)
If you are decently competent programmer working in an industry where things like accuracy, precision, and security are core concerns, LLMs start to look anti-productive as in the time you spent messing around with prompts, checking the LLM's work, and correcting it's errors, you could've easily done the work yourself.
Finally if you're one of those dark wizards working in FORTRAN or some proprietary machine language because this is Sparta IBM/Nvidia/TMSC and the compute must flow, you're skeptical of the claim that an LLM can write code that would compile at all.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
5d ago
Violence committed on federal property is a bigger issue.
Why?
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
5d ago
Please explain your line of reasoning because i do not see how anyone could reasonably make this claim in good faith.
I feel like framing this as "Trump won him over" glosses over the Democrats own culpability in this matter.
As other have observed. The Left had a Joe Rogan up until about 2021, his name was Joe Rogan. Then the entire Democratic party establishment and maintream media spent two whole years trying to get him deplatformed and arrested as a "bigot" for saying that he didn't want his daughter competing against biological males in sports, as a "threat to public health" for being pro-ivermectin and anti-lockdown, and for "spreading disinformation" in general. Even a good sizable portion of theMotte including our very own Scott Alexander have gotten in on the game by describing his platforming of alternative views as "dangerous" and "irresponsible".
The message was sent loudly and repeatedly that there was no place for people like Joe (or his listeners) in rational and polite society, and that message was recieved.
It seems to me that the Democratic party as an institution is at that stage in the Lana-cycle where they've divorced the schlubby dad podcast (JRE), are now dating an edgy podcast of haircolor (CumTown), and are low-key mad that instead of going to peices, schlubby-dad found a new woman political party and has moved on with his life.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
9d ago
I find it ironic that you would pick HBD as your example because to me it HBD reads as this precise dynamic only in reverse.
That is to say i think that a lot of people who are culturally progressive but who otherwise find themselves on the wrong end of the intersectional stack, end up fixating on racial differences and other structural "-isms" to avoid the more uncomfortable implications of thier beliefs regarding individual responcibilty/agency. Or acknowledging that the old John Wayne, Bill Buckley, Ronald Reagan-type "Stern Fathers" may have been Right all along.
He explicitly thinks English society is increasingly run by a cabal of vicious, anti-human elites and is therefore sinking back into barbarism.
When you write it out like that you make Chesterton sound positivly Trumpian.
That our institutions have been captured by a cabal of anti-human elites actively working to turn the US into a 3rd World country is arguably one of the core premises of the MAGA-right.
Conservatism lacks ideology, vision and a moral compass. At this point it is just angry ranting against cartoon vilians who are satanically evil.
Im sorry, but i dont see how anyone could reasonably engage with the work of current conservative thought leaders like Victor Davis Hansen or Thomas Sowell, past leaders like Limbaugh, Brietbart, and Buckley, or old lions like CS Lewis, GK Chesterton, Rudyard Kipling, Douglas, Burke, Smith, Et Al. and come away with the impression they lack "ideology, vision and a moral compass"
Thier vision may be unreasonable in your eyes, or totally at odds with core liberal beliefs, but that's not the same thing as not having one.
Ditto for current conservative-coded posters like @FCfromSSC and @Dean or past posters from the reddit/SSC/lesswrong days like Hlinka, Diesach, BarnabyCajones, Jason, or LetsStayCivilized.
Say what you will about them, but what they were not lacking in is/was ideology.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
30d ago
Grading on the curve has always been a mark of intellectual laziness/lack of rigor in a feild.
It's nothing more than a means of convincing people with high verbal IQs and low mathematical literacy that students and professors dont actually have to do thier jobs (learn and teach respectively) to be "good" students or professors.
That would require work and intellectual rigor on the part of the professors. Intelligent rigourous people with good work ethic don't go into academia, they go into buisiness.
This might might be a compelling argument if MAGA opinion on Tarriffs didn't run the gamut from "ambivalent" to "positive". In cases where Trump's stated preferences did go against those of the base, (EG school choice or, as @The_Nybbler observes, vaccine mandates) the preferences of the base appear to have won out.
In any case the fact that he at least seems to be taking the base's concerns about thier wages, jobs, contract-bids, Et Al. being undermined by foriegn labor (be it Chinese slave camps, or illegal immigrants) earns him a fair amount of good-will. He at least pretends to care, instead of dismissing those concerns out of hand.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1mo ago
Elizabeth Warren is not Barack Obama, and it wasn't just a throw-away line, it was an expression of a core belief that ideas matter more than actions. A belief that continues to shape Democratic party policy and campaign strategy.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1mo ago
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1mo ago
No, this is why The Democrats are so afraid of a contested convention. The would-be technocrats know that thier preferred policies (Socialism, Globalism, LGBTQism, Degrowth, Et Al) are deeply unpopular with the electorate which is why they have to rig thier primaries and are constantly appealing to emotion and identity politics in thier party messaging rather than expressing any sort of positive vision.
Meanwhile the GOP's willingness to let the voters choose the candidate is the only reason Trump was on the ballot in the first place.
I get that sneering at populists is whole reason you made this alt account, but this is hilariously out of touch even for you.
MAGA is not "failing" to reign Trump in. MAGA is cheering him on because he is following through on his campaign promises. He is pursuing thier objectives.
MAGA is not Trump. MAGA became the rallying cry of a Tea Party that is done asking politely and has now adopted an attitude position of "Fuck it, we ball". Trump is the avatar of that attitude. The guy who will actually say "Fuck you, we did in fact build that" on behalf of all the construction workers, architects, structural engineers, real-estate developers, Et Al. who did in fact build that, and are fed up with crime, inflation, and constantly being lectured by idiot wordcels about race, gender, and whatever else is on the menu this week.
I know it's an unpopular position but again I urge theMotte to consider the possibility that Trump (and Trump-voters) know what they are doing.
If I be a dog, beware my fangs.
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