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TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
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TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
Stuff like this is why I roll my eyes when i see junior programmers complaining online about how thier stupid employer wont let them use the latest AI tools/models.
There are often very good reasons that they don't want you to be using those tools.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
I see you.
Can you elaborate on what you think words like "read", "searches", and "know" mean in this context. Im not asking just to pedantic, how you think about this question has informs how you approach algorithmic behavior.
Edit: if that is a bit too abstract instead try explain why you believe that the algo "knows" which claims are likely spurious and then explain why you would expect that to have any influence on the algorithm's output.
For anyone who is sincerely interested in the topic, I strongly recommend Tom Murphy VII's video essays, particularly Badness = 0 as a primer on the techical challenges and not just for the excellent "alignment" meta joke.
The portion about Lorem Epsom and Donald Knuth is particularly relevant when discussing publicly available LLMs like GPT, Gemini, and DeepSeek.
Again, its not "naive" it is generating an average if the bulk of the tokenized training data related to your prompt is press releases, the response is going to reflect the press releases. Whether those press releases are true or false doesn't enter into the equation. This is expected.
Common well publicized problems have common well publicized solutions, if your traing data consists of 90-somthing percent correct answers and reminder garbage you will get a 90-somthing percent solution.
As i said above Gemini is not reasoning or naive, it is computing an average. Now as much as i may seem down on LLMs, I am not. I may not believe that they represent viable path towards AGi but that doesn't mean they are without use. The rapid collation of related tokens has an obvious "killer app" and that app is translation be that in spoken languages or programming languages.
https://www.themotte.org/post/1160/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/249920?context=8#context
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
They are, but the latest predictive models are a completely seperate evolutionary branch from LLMs
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
I believe tha AGI is possible and is likely happen, but I also believe that Sam Altman is an inveterate grifter and the generative large language models are (for the most part) an evolutionary dead-end.
And my point is that anyone who was remotely intelligent and vaguely familiar with both the internet and how LLMs function ought to have anticipated this.
The OP is the kind of person who is surprised when "Boaty McBoatface" wins the online naming poll.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
It's not "naive" it's generating an average. If your training data is full of extraneous material (or otherwise insufficiently tokenized/vetted) your response will also be full of extraneous material, and again its not rationalizing it's averaging.
At the risk of a self-dox, I have an advanced degree in Applied Math, and multiple published papers and patents related to the use of machine learning in robotics and signal processing. I was introduced to the rationalist community through a mutual friend in the SCA and was initally excited by the opportunity to discuss the philosophical and engineering challenges of developing artificial intelligence. However as time went on i largely gave up trying to discuss AI with people outside the industry as it became increasingly apparent to me that most rationalists were more interested in the use of AI as a conceptual vehicle to push thier particular brand of Silicon Valley woo than they were the aforementioned philosophical and engineering challenges.
The reason i don't talk about it is in large part that i find it difficult to speak honestly without sounding uncharitable. I believe that the "wordcels" take these bots seriously because they naturally associate "the ability to string words together" with intent/sentience while simultaneously lacking sufficient background knowledge and/or understanding of algorithmic behavior to recognize that everthing the OP describes lies well within the bounds of expected behavior. See the post from a few weeks ago where people thought that GPT was engaged in "code-switching". What the lay-man interperts as intent is to the mathematician the functional output of the equation as described.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
The obvious question to as is If the Serbians successfully shot down a B2 (r a second F117) why weren't they plastering pictures of the wreckage all over the media the way they did with the first F117? The simplest explanation would seem to be that they didn't actually down the aircraft in question.
The serbians probably fired a missile, saw an explosion, and assumed that meant a kill when in reality the aircraft in question made it safely back to base, with a few "sparrows" in the wing.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
If a "genocide" is still ongoing after 4 generations it's not much of a "genocide" is it?
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
Have not doesn't mean they will not.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
No that is not the lesson, there is nothing to fear from a "low performer". What you need to fear is the person or group who you dismissed as low performing but have the potential to not be, because if you fuck em there is a good chance they'll fuck you back and you will deserve it.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
Given the two attempts at invasion/annexation in 10 years (one of them ongoing) it seems reasonable that the Ukrainians would not want ZZ-niks working in thier country, voting in thier elections, etc.
Remember that we are talking about naturalization here IE whether or not we let a person in, and once in, how much of an obligation is there to let them stay.
What MAGA was/is against is yet more on-going foreign entanglements consuming blood and treasure for little gain. See ou (the US's recent experience in) Afgahnistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Gaza, Et Al.
A quick surgical strike followed almost immediately by a negotiated peace is pretty much the exact opposite of an on-going entanglement.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
You don't even have to be pro-Trump, you just have to be pro-'Murica. A bridge that Democrats are increasingly loath to cross. Hense the whole 1619 project and endless thinkpieces about how America isnt exceptional.
Yes, but if they'd admitted to being a Nazi, they wouldn't have been naturalized.
Possibly, Probably. and the HAMASniks would have likely (or at least ought to have been) denied entry if they had gone into thier naturalization hearing chanting "death to America" and "globalize the infitada".
Have you ever aligned yourself with an enemy of the United States, if so explain the circumstances. is exactly the sort of question we ought to be asking someone before letting them in.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
Administrators and organizers need to generate bullet points for when the boss asks what they accomplished this quarter.
The correlation is weak at best and even if it was strong, the same source in 2024 tells a different story.
In the meantime, being in a heterosexual marriage appears a more reliable predictor of voting preference than either racial or party affiliation.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
6mo ago
How many examples with how many upvotes would i have to provide to convince you that it's not a fluke? How explict do they have to be? Will you accept plain language at its meaning, or should i expect you to play the old "defund the police doesn't literally mean defunding the police" card?
The Virgin Nietzche vs ths Chads Aristotle and Plato.
Nice strawman. But even the most hardcore HBD believers would accept that the worst whites are likely worse in some aspects than the best non-whites.
I have seen it argued on multiple occasions right here on the Motte that racial background is the "most dispositive" factor in determining human behavior. That is to say that a person's race will tell you more about how they are likely to behave than whether they are male or female, young or old, married or single, rich or poor, urban or rural, republican or democrat, etc...
By extension wether a man is black or white must matter more than whether they are an aged Supreme Court Judge or a Twenty-something meth head. You may claim that the Motte is not representative of the HBD movement or that when users here say things like "most dispositive" or "predictive" they don't actually mean it literally, but it's not a strawman.
Along similar lines to the questions i asked @No_one here what do you think "aberratant" means in this context and why would you expect aberrant inputs/outputs to be "caught"?
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