TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
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This is the kind of thinking that is impressed by calculators because it doesn't properly understand what's hard about some things.
Ironically I considered saying almost this exact thing in my above comment, but scratched it out as too antagonistic.
The high-school students and literature majors are impressed by LLMs ability to write code because they do not know enough about coding to know what parts are easy and what parts are hard.
Writing something that looks like netcode and maybe even compiles/runs is easy. (All you need is a socket, a for loop, a few if statements, a return case, and you're done) Writing netcode that is stable, functional, and secure enough to pass muster in the banking industry is hard. This is what i was gesturing towards with "Bouba" vs "Kiki" distinction. Banks are notoriously "prickly" about thier code because banking (unlike most of what Facebook, Amazon, and Google do) is one of those industries where the accuracy and security of information are core concerns.
Finally which LLM are you using to write FORTRAN? because after some brief experimentation niether Gemini nor Claude are anywhere close.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1mo ago
Goodness knows it’s bad enough when merely inexperienced programmers ask for review without first asking advice on how to approach the problem, or even without serious testing…
I know that pain.
As somone who's been working in the field of machine learning since 2012 and generally agrees with @SubstantialFrivolity's assesment, I think that what we are looking here is a bifurcation in opinion between people looking for "bouba" solutions and those looking for "kiki" solutions.
If you're a high-school student or literature major with zero background in computer science looking to build a website or develop baby's first mobile app LLM generated code is a complete game changer. Literally the best thing since sliced bread. (The OP, and @self_made_human's comments reflect this)
If you're a decently competent programmer at a big tech firm, LLMs are at best a mild productivity booster. (See @kky's comments below)
If you are decently competent programmer working in an industry where things like accuracy, precision, and security are core concerns, LLMs start to look anti-productive as in the time you spent messing around with prompts, checking the LLM's work, and correcting it's errors, you could've easily done the work yourself.
Finally if you're one of those dark wizards working in FORTRAN or some proprietary machine language because this is Sparta IBM/Nvidia/TMSC and the compute must flow, you're skeptical of the claim that an LLM can write code that would compile at all.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1mo ago
Violence committed on federal property is a bigger issue.
Why?
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
1mo ago
Please explain your line of reasoning because i do not see how anyone could reasonably make this claim in good faith.
I feel like framing this as "Trump won him over" glosses over the Democrats own culpability in this matter.
As other have observed. The Left had a Joe Rogan up until about 2021, his name was Joe Rogan. Then the entire Democratic party establishment and maintream media spent two whole years trying to get him deplatformed and arrested as a "bigot" for saying that he didn't want his daughter competing against biological males in sports, as a "threat to public health" for being pro-ivermectin and anti-lockdown, and for "spreading disinformation" in general. Even a good sizable portion of theMotte including our very own Scott Alexander have gotten in on the game by describing his platforming of alternative views as "dangerous" and "irresponsible".
The message was sent loudly and repeatedly that there was no place for people like Joe (or his listeners) in rational and polite society, and that message was recieved.
It seems to me that the Democratic party as an institution is at that stage in the Lana-cycle where they've divorced the schlubby dad podcast (JRE), are now dating an edgy podcast of haircolor (CumTown), and are low-key mad that instead of going to peices, schlubby-dad found a new woman political party and has moved on with his life.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
2mo ago
I find it ironic that you would pick HBD as your example because to me it HBD reads as this precise dynamic only in reverse.
That is to say i think that a lot of people who are culturally progressive but who otherwise find themselves on the wrong end of the intersectional stack, end up fixating on racial differences and other structural "-isms" to avoid the more uncomfortable implications of thier beliefs regarding individual responcibilty/agency. Or acknowledging that the old John Wayne, Bill Buckley, Ronald Reagan-type "Stern Fathers" may have been Right all along.
He explicitly thinks English society is increasingly run by a cabal of vicious, anti-human elites and is therefore sinking back into barbarism.
When you write it out like that you make Chesterton sound positivly Trumpian.
That our institutions have been captured by a cabal of anti-human elites actively working to turn the US into a 3rd World country is arguably one of the core premises of the MAGA-right.
Conservatism lacks ideology, vision and a moral compass. At this point it is just angry ranting against cartoon vilians who are satanically evil.
Im sorry, but i dont see how anyone could reasonably engage with the work of current conservative thought leaders like Victor Davis Hansen or Thomas Sowell, past leaders like Limbaugh, Brietbart, and Buckley, or old lions like CS Lewis, GK Chesterton, Rudyard Kipling, Douglas, Burke, Smith, Et Al. and come away with the impression they lack "ideology, vision and a moral compass"
Thier vision may be unreasonable in your eyes, or totally at odds with core liberal beliefs, but that's not the same thing as not having one.
Ditto for current conservative-coded posters like @FCfromSSC and @Dean or past posters from the reddit/SSC/lesswrong days like Hlinka, Diesach, BarnabyCajones, Jason, or LetsStayCivilized.
Say what you will about them, but what they were not lacking in is/was ideology.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
2mo ago
Grading on the curve has always been a mark of intellectual laziness/lack of rigor in a feild.
It's nothing more than a means of convincing people with high verbal IQs and low mathematical literacy that students and professors dont actually have to do thier jobs (learn and teach respectively) to be "good" students or professors.
That would require work and intellectual rigor on the part of the professors. Intelligent rigourous people with good work ethic don't go into academia, they go into buisiness.
This might might be a compelling argument if MAGA opinion on Tarriffs didn't run the gamut from "ambivalent" to "positive". In cases where Trump's stated preferences did go against those of the base, (EG school choice or, as @The_Nybbler observes, vaccine mandates) the preferences of the base appear to have won out.
In any case the fact that he at least seems to be taking the base's concerns about thier wages, jobs, contract-bids, Et Al. being undermined by foriegn labor (be it Chinese slave camps, or illegal immigrants) earns him a fair amount of good-will. He at least pretends to care, instead of dismissing those concerns out of hand.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3mo ago
Elizabeth Warren is not Barack Obama, and it wasn't just a throw-away line, it was an expression of a core belief that ideas matter more than actions. A belief that continues to shape Democratic party policy and campaign strategy.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3mo ago
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3mo ago
No, this is why The Democrats are so afraid of a contested convention. The would-be technocrats know that thier preferred policies (Socialism, Globalism, LGBTQism, Degrowth, Et Al) are deeply unpopular with the electorate which is why they have to rig thier primaries and are constantly appealing to emotion and identity politics in thier party messaging rather than expressing any sort of positive vision.
Meanwhile the GOP's willingness to let the voters choose the candidate is the only reason Trump was on the ballot in the first place.
I get that sneering at populists is whole reason you made this alt account, but this is hilariously out of touch even for you.
MAGA is not "failing" to reign Trump in. MAGA is cheering him on because he is following through on his campaign promises. He is pursuing thier objectives.
MAGA is not Trump. MAGA became the rallying cry of a Tea Party that is done asking politely and has now adopted an attitude position of "Fuck it, we ball". Trump is the avatar of that attitude. The guy who will actually say "Fuck you, we did in fact build that" on behalf of all the construction workers, architects, structural engineers, real-estate developers, Et Al. who did in fact build that, and are fed up with crime, inflation, and constantly being lectured by idiot wordcels about race, gender, and whatever else is on the menu this week.
I know it's an unpopular position but again I urge theMotte to consider the possibility that Trump (and Trump-voters) know what they are doing.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3mo ago
I wish I could find a link but I remember back in one of the SSC.com link/open threads a user who worked at JPL actually broke down the logistics of establishing a permanent moon base complete with links relevant NASA studies, and comparisons to the support requirements of Amundson-Scott at the south pole.
As i recall the numbers were absurd but not completely outside the realm of possibility. IE 100 Saturn Five launches a year for 3 years to build a colony that would be functionally self-sustaining.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3mo ago
I think you're ascribing a level of competence not in evidence.
I feel like it's another one of those midwit bell-curve memes. The low information take is that if you're going to peddle propoganda/bullshit, at least make it a Studio Ghibli meme. The "midwit" take is that as very serious people thinking seriously about serious topics you (the public) need to take our ideas very seriously. Meanwhile, the the high info take is that engaging seriously with propoganda/bullshit is a waste of time but Studio Ghibli memes are fun.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3mo ago
It's just dumb, and displays a gross ignorance/lack of understanding of algorithmic behavior.
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3mo ago
What little technical discussion i caught was in "not even wrong" territory.
ZorbaTHut and TracingWoodgrains were(are?) both long time dramanauts and I am reasonably confident that there are at least two others. That's a minimum of two, possibly as many as four or more, out of a population of ten admins. Greater than 20% is a "significant percentage" if you ask me.
CCing @SteveAgain
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3mo ago
Risen indeed!
TequilaMockingbird
Brown-skinned Fascist MAGA boot-licker
3mo ago
If "misinformation" leads to accurate predictions is it really "mis" information?
I just assumed they were Trans.
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