UwU

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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026

UwU 19hr ago

First of all, thank you for the detailed comment. I appreciate the effort. Consider my priors adjusted.

mkc claims the Nowak scenario is common. I and FtttG separately ask for examples of a specific thing (police arrest victim nonwhite person instead of murderer white person). mkc pretends to have already provided that. We repeatedly point out that no, you haven't provided that. mkc switches to "well actually this thing is rare so there are few examples either way". I ask for a single example, which is never provided.

I agree, though it does seem like he misinterpreted the request as something more general "police arrest victim instead of perp" rather than the more specific request. Later on it might be better to concede on the point before pivoting, but it's on par with online political debates.

mkc tries to cast FtttG as some kind of terminally online forum gremlin ("touch grass" etc). I explain to him that this reflects poorly on mkc. mkc keeps up an act of "what smear? what bad thing did I say? I'm not attacking FtttG, I'm not doing anything wrong :3", while being clearly aware of exactly what he was doing (and doubling down on it).

That's bad for sure. He got deservingly banned for it.

[... ChatGPT stuff ...]

The way I read it was a back and forth discussion where he got challenged on the impartiality and reproducibility of ChatGPT results, and changed because of it (i.e. he started posting prompts). Some parts of it may be sus but it does not go over my bad faith threshold.

Another problem with your policy of "I need specific individual instances of bad faith; I won't read a long thread" is that it allows posters like mkc to fly under the radar. If you're looking for a threshold of (say) 60% bad faith in an individual comment, and someone is consistently operating at 55% bad faith, then any one individual comment isn't going to set off your alarms. But the cumulative effect of 55% bad faith is much worse than a single 60% bad faith comment!

Perhaps, but I'm willing to extend more charity on members in a forum with minority viewpoints. But again, consider my priors adjusted on this one, you may not have convinced me that he exceeded my single-comment-chain bad faith threshold but the cumulative evidence of sus behavior has certainly increased.

I get that vagueness is easier to defend

Very charitable, thanks.

I did not say this to you.

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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 1, 2026

UwU 1d ago

As I mentioned in my previous comment, I was looking for actual specifics of this supposed intellectual dishonesty rather than a vague gesture to the start of a humungous thread, which I did skim over and did not come to the same conclusion as you.

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UwU 1d ago

I meant they should be more specific as in actual quotes and articulate convincingly how MKC is supposedly intellectually dishonest and trolling rather than simply linking to a particular thread. I get that vagueness is easier to defend, but just by briefly reading over the thread, it seems like he's being dogpiled for adopting a different framing than what is consistent with the Overton window here.

On Reddit, people with right-wing (or even moderate!) opinions often get dogpiled and shouted down and get called intellectually dishonest (and therefore eligible to be banned) even if they are earnest in their beliefs, because they find the left-wing framing, evidence, or arguments unconvincing. I hope this place is still somewhere everyone can speak their mind and disagree, and not right-wing Reddit.

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UwU 1d ago

I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but it would be great for accusers of MKC to post receipts along with their accusations. Right now it just seems like people are ganging up on him for no good reason.