anon_
1d ago
In this case tell her that we’re terminating the ISAP and she’s got till next week to depart.
She’s been showing up diligently to check-ins, she’s not the problem.
anon_
1d ago
You’re entitled to that, but you can’t then be shocked if you lose elections.
anon_
1d ago
Labyrinths are one thing, but /u/walterodim was pretty clear he felt like the opposition was coming directly from the people being alienated.
anon_
1d ago
I don't suspect that it will go much better when substituting retarded and short-attention-spanned.
anon_
1d ago
But because they were rich, wore their fancy costumes and counted the prime minister and mayor of London among their alumni, what they did was somehow uniquely awful.
It was uniquely awful, in the sense that we used to have an order in which those that wield great authority or wealth would be held to a higher standard of morality than a drunk peasant and would be obligated to use their station to set a positive example.
I'm not even an actual reactionary (far from it) but I think this one element tracks with the sense of good and has an excellent pedigree back to the ancients.
anon_
1d ago
Sure, eventually there will be another left wing President. The key outcome you'd want is to maximize your guy's time in office before that happens.
anon_
1d ago
That's why you can't have massive deportations without authoritarianism, even if they are supported by the majority.
You absolutely can.
Step 1 would be to have competent and diligent people in charge, making decently intelligent decisions about prioritization and being dedicated to followthrough.
Like, this lady was voluntarily showing up to periodic checkins with ICE. Seems like they could have easily given her 10 days to figure out what to do.
anon_
1d ago
It is increasingly clear to me that getting any resembling what I would consider an appropriate level of deportations will actually just require deciding to be mean in a way that will alienate a significant number of people.
If you want to hold sustained political, you'll have to find a formulation that meets as much of your goals as possible without alienating lots of voters. Probably won't be all of it, but it's awful politics to decide that you're just gonna speedrun it rather than figure out a durable policy.
anon_
1d ago
"mothers of US citizens who went to their ICE check-ins" are the only ones left?
Not only that, the practice of sending people away at the ICE checkin, as opposed to using that visit in to serve them with notice of termination of status so that they can get their shit and depart in an orderly fashion creates the an awful selection effect.
anon_
2d ago
In that sense, I don't think it's a rehash of the sanctuary cities argument, not least because that entire debate was far larger than just "avoid the courthouses".
anon_
3d ago
I've commented multiple times that I support both mass deportation and due process for illegal immigrants. A defendant being unsympathetic is irrelevant.
There must be a dozen of us.
anon_
3d ago
An individual home or place of residence (even temporary, like a hotel room) is due special protection from the 4A.
This is not true for a judge in a courtroom, any more than it is for any other employee at their place of work.
anon_
3d ago
Since it's widely recognized that a judge's courtroom is a private area, upon learning that the agents only had an administrative warrant, she told them they couldn't do anything in her courtroom and would have to arrest him in one of the common areas of the courthouse.
I don't really think that follows. A federal officer in furtherance of their job cannot be arbitrarily prohibited from entering a State courthouse. This is approaching 'standing in the schoolhouse door' levels of nullification -- after all, a schoolhouse isn't a public space either, it is a private area for students and teachers only. I can't imagine anyone defending 1960s Montgomery officials telling the 101st Airborne they can't step inside.
[ I agree with respect to a private residence and the 4A, but a courthouse gets zero protection from the 4A and the analogy is extremely tenuous. ]
But even accepting this (dubitante, as they say), it would be still be obstruction to use that 'private area' to play a shell game with federal officers.
And finally, on a subjective note, this seems like ICE agents doing the right things due-process wise. Having been downvoted to hell for insisting on due process, I feel honor bound to turn around and say that ICE officers who do follow the procedure are due some deference.
anon_
3d ago
And a MA one in Trump I for which criminal charges were dropped in favor of a judicial misconduct.
anon_
3d ago
I can't imagine the DA going after every grandma who conceals her grandson from the cops.
I think it depends on the specifics. But it would seem reasonable under some imaginable set of facts and completely bonkers in another imaginable set of facts. So much is riding on how you actually operationalize it.
If an accused is willing to show up in court when summoned, that is saving the state system the resources they would otherwise have to spend on tracking, arresting and imprisoning that person. If the feds freeload on the state system, in the end it will be state police who will have to spend a lot of resources on tracking illegals wanted for some minor infraction like they are wanted for murder.
On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, it might be more resource efficient to send him to jail longer (because of the failure to appear) in a single go. Moreover, an FTA charge is an extremely easy one to stick because you don't need a ton of facts or motions practice or anything else -- it's extremely well documented whether or not the guy was required to appear and whether he didn't.
In that respect, it's like the felon in possession of a firearm charge: not always the most serious but the easiest one to charge, try and prove.
anon_
3d ago
Either it's makeup or she had a hydrafacial appointment in the last 24 hours (can personally recommend). That's the only think I know of which can make tired and aged skin look so radiant.
As a beard guy, should I actually shave so I can get a facial and then regrow my beard?
anon_
3d ago
Expensive makeup gets away with being expensive because it works.
To be sure, a lot of that stuff only works at a fixed set of angles and with controlled lighting.
It works better but in a narrower field of application. You can't wear that stuff out to a nightclub.
anon_
3d ago
This seems different from Sanctuary Cities. The Constitution prohibits the Feds from commandeering the States (& by extension localities) but it certainly can mandate that they do not actively obstruct it.
anon_
3d ago
That wasn't meant as a generalization, it was an example. Perhaps that could have been phrased better.
anon_
4d ago
Maybe? I don't have a solid prediction on that possibility, but it seems like you should mention your expectation on that so we know what the heck you're talking about.
If that never comes to pass, will you amend your position?
Did the voters turn out for the school board election or state level representatives? Or did they just turn out for a single position and then got confused out of ignorance that there's more positions to vote for with their own different appointed powers, many of which are local?
One pattern that's come up with a particular strain of reactionary thought is that there is an ingrained helplessness (punctuated of course with an occasional going-off-meds incident) with regards to actually learn about the structural elements of governance. It's true at the local level and the national level and everywhere in between.
It is true that liberals have a natural advantage here in the sense of being active in politics as opposed to being based & grillpilled, but it's become so pronounced that it goes beyond merely believing that being active in political causes is cringe. It's gotten so bad you cannot even explain to some of these folks black-letter facts like (just for example) "if the federal government wants to condition grants on cities dropping sanctuary policies, there has to be specific language by congress creating the condition".
anon_
4d ago
If someone decided to base their sex education around the theme "how Mary and Joseph had sex and Jesus was conceived"
And here I was thinking it was a Roman auxiliary marching from the coast to Syria to put down a riot that stopped over and popped a baby in her.
anon_
4d ago
You skipped from "a couple bucks" and "illegal to drive it in". That's a lot of distance.
The problem with getting despotism via populism is clear.
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