ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1yr ago
Having a bunch of people answer BS with "you're wrong" without elaboration is better than allowing it to stand unchallenged.
You're wrong.
I think this forum should disable/remove the downvote button.
I think we should remove both. "Bad post got upvotes" complaints are as bad as the "my post got downvotes" ones. The only function of votes, as others mentioned, is a sink for low effort comments, but if the mods are up to it, I'd say just start banning for low effort. Unlike some of the more esoteric rules, this one is pretty easy to understand, and to apply in a relatively objective way.
Yes, that's power of the progressive movement. Someone says something happened, someone else writes it on wikipedia, and then we're supposed to assume that was the truth. Can you actually name the person accusing him of "grabbing, kissing, [and] making comments about physical attributes" beyond "One longtime Pixar employee"? The only thing I have ever heard proven about him was that he was a big hugger. Also, no comment on Franken?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2yr ago
Man should have stuck to rockets and electric cars
Consider the idea that he's not actually running the rockets and electric cars any better...
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2yr ago
Or better yet: take the L, and don't reduce the motherhood of another person to a transaction. Leave the money to the kids of a family member who was smart enough to have them when the time was right.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2yr ago
It's a Scottpost,
Still not reading without a good reason to, so a submission statement would be nice.
I disagree. Simply put, I'm happy to concede the way Brexit was done was pointless, but that doesn't change the fact that in the best case Remainers were wrong about the consequences of Brexit, and in the worst case were just lying about them to discourage it.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
5mo ago
If you want to find out how to commit terrorism, an Al-Qaeda instruction manual seems like a pretty good thing to read.
If I didn't see people being associatied with Nazism for making the OK hand sign, I might be willing to consider this argument. The Al-Qaeda manual is a closer connection to radical Islam than all the "dogwhistles" that got people fired from their jobs combined.
Also, I like I said (after editing it in, so no foul), direct inspiration by an ideology is not necessary for the struggle sessions to commence.
Even if the rumours Trump based the claim on had been true, they were about cats, not dogs.
Oh, come on!
- Did you hear about the Haitians eating people's dogs in Ohio?
- Don't say that! This is a completely false statement, spread by bigots!
- Oh shit! Sorry, I didn't know.
- Yeah... everybody knows they're eating cats, not dogs.
In this case it's "'they're eating the dogs' is a statement intended to induce the false belief in listeners" that is a false statement intended to induce the false belief in listeners, and this is precisely why people have had it with "lying like a lawyer" types.
Twitter wasn't meant to be a profitable business.
Tell that to the people who gave him $10 billion in loans to buy it.
He kicked a four digit number of problem employees and greatly improved free speach on the global public square. That is a major achievement.
Yes, which is why I put it at the top, as the least problematic of his companies. If he could do that after winning Twitter in a lottery, and not having to pay for it, or if there was no advertiser boycott in response, I'd say things have gone quite well for him.
SpaceX has been the most successful rocket program since the 60s. F9/FH, the dragon capsule have been true game changers.
I guess this is another part of the Motte and Bailey that I mentioned - the things he already did already were revolutionary. Ok, cool. Show me how it's paying for their bills, though.
Starship is a complete paradigm shift
No, it is not. Maybe it will be one day. This is the thing that drives me a bit nuts in discussions about Elon, people are acting like he already achieved what he promised.
The other problem is that "the paradigm", such as it is, falls apart after you want to do anything beyond LEO. 15 refuelling launches to get 1 rocket to the moon is a little bit excessive, wouldn't you say?
They made sci fi tech happen
What they did was cool, but not mind-blowing. It's not even clear there's much benefit to reusability. In either case, again, show me how that will satisfy the investors.
Starlink is almost profitable as is and has 50% growth per year
Can you give a link to breakdown of their numbers? I'd be interested in seeing that.
Growth in itself doesn't necessarily mean much, if you have to keep launching satellites to expand service.
While starship will take several years to get operational it unlocks a giant market as it allows regular cell phone users to send text messages globally and use basic services everywhere in the world.
But... most people don't go around to "anywhere in the world", they tend to stick to their local population hub. Their phones tend to already have perfectly fine Internet access, and when they don't, and need a satellite connection, it's not exactly clear why they would be willing to pay more just to get their latency a bit lower.
The launch market has a shortage and the demand is greater than supply.
Again, any links will be appreciated.
The legacy manufacturers don't have anywhere near the experience with electric cars
This is only a problem, if we're all going to switch to electric cars. I can already tell you I don't want to. The EU played with the idea of forcing people to switch, but even if they go through with it, the Chinese are providing perfectly fine alternatives.
Tesla was one of the biggest things to happen to the car industry in decades.
Teslas are still a rarity, and it's not clear how long they will stick around. Their sales numbers have gone down, and they have competition now, so even if electric cars will stay, it's not clear that people will keep buying Teslas.
Musk became obscenely rich from it.
Yeah, through people buying meme-stocks on the back of wild promises he never fulfilled. Do you think people will see "but Musk got rich from it" as an argument in Elon's favor, if Tesla crashes with no sign of semis, self-driving, robo-taxis, bipedal robots, or revolutionary new batteries?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1yr ago
What can I say? All things considered they're a bit strict for my taste, but they do what they say on the tin, which I tend to consider strictly superior to the vague and fluent rules of the west. The way of life they want to impose might not quite be my of tea either, but I recognize it as humane, while the western seems to aim for abolishing humanity.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1yr ago
Right, but now you're just flat out dodging the objection I raised.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1yr ago
I always said it's an "I disagree" button, and that we should just get rid of voting, because it seems to cause too much distress for some people.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1yr ago
He literally waged war on his country
I was under the impression that his country declared independence from the country he waged war on?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
1yr ago
Cool, that's not necessarily what the statue glorifies though.
Rather than relying on memory, it is easy enough to google the case and discover that they were in fact selling coffee hotter than the norm
No, it is not easy enough to google the state of the internet as it was around the time of the case, when I distinctly remember some dude on on a phpBB forum linking to a document of some coffebrewer association recommending a temperature range within which McDonnalds comfortably sat.
All other factors you brought up are completely irrelevant.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2yr ago
What the hell is supposed to be ban worthy about it? Some people argue for horrors like surrogacy, some people people post thinly veiled antisemitic jabs. Fight the guy or ignore him, but for the love of god spare me the Karening.
I’ll ignore the clearly bad faith snark
It's not snark, and it's not bad faith. It's a real issue I have with this debating style. If there's a real lack of clarity or understanding, I'm happy to try to come up with a definition or point at a few examples. But if it's just a strategy to get the other side to run in circles and claim victory by default if they can't give you a definition that covers all cases, then I'm out.
I've been doing this long enough that I know how it goes. Even if someone does give a definition, the other side can just pick another word to chip away at:
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What is woke?
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Uh... how about applying Marxist class analysis to groups that aren't based on economic relations?
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Oh yeah? What's the difference between Marxist class analysis from non-Marxist class analysis?
and so on, and so on, ad Infinitum, just so we never discuss the issue with the original thing that was brought up.
Ever heard of a guy called Socrates? He was obsessed with definitions.
Yes. And even though I grew up using the Socratic method, and still find it hard to ditch the habit, I'm starting to feel real sympathy for the Athenians that decided they had just about enough of the guy.
I think you can make a good case that a blob or whatever is still ‘human.’
Then can you make that case? In what sense is that blob human that a cat or an octopus isn't? Why am I the only one that has to give a definition that works with micron-precision?
Your argument makes no sense because it’s circular - you’re refusing to define what humanity means then using the term again as the crux.
It's not circular. We're not talking about mathematical abstractions, we're talking about things that have a real world reference. That breaks the circle.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2yr ago
It's called PsyOps.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2yr ago
I find it hard to understand how the idea of a blanket national ban on TikTok even became popular enough to go to Congress.
That part's perfectly understandable, TikTok is utterly demonic. What's hard to understand is why all the other BigTech platforms aren't included in the ban.
non-hetero's are all groomers,
Can you point any big commentator saying anything resembling that? I know progressives love too pretend "ok, groomer" is a slur against all non-straights, but you explicitly mentioned "taking them at their word".
mexicans caravans 10000 strong are coming over the border
I only seem to remember one drama about a caravan. It was years ago, don't know about 10K but it was pretty big, and some "paper of record" was explicitly taking the other side of the issue, writing articles about how awesome the caravan is, and how evil the Trumpists are for not wanting to let it in. Is the official progressive position now that it never happened?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2yr ago
because it is a matter of ethical principle that individual and cultural accomplishment is not tied to the genes in the same way as the appearance of our hair.
I'm not going to defend Turkheimer, because I don't know the guy, and a lot of academic scholars strike me as absolutely sleazy, but I think I can defend the argument.
Aquota says below:
As is constantly stated, HBD is most commonly used as an alternative to a racism of the gaps.
Sure, maybe people here and now use it this way, but it's not like we haven't seen slippery slopes happen in real time. An ironic example is "racism of the gaps" itself, didn't we get here from a completely reasonable "maybe everyone should have equal rights"? This leads me to being quite sympathetic to the idea of just tabooing anything that might lead to pushing collective responsibility. Of course the rules of such a taboo would have to be a lot different than what we have now, banning HBD while pushing CRT is unjust, and not even a stable equilibrium (and I suppose this is why we are where we are).
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
16d ago
I never seen somoeone get under your skin quite so much.
I understand the frustration, but you don't need the explicit hostility to make your point. Even if your every word was coated in pure sugar, it would be hard not to reach the same conclusion as you did.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
18d ago
They encourage chants of "Death to America". They refer to the US as the Great Satan. When someone tells you in no uncertain terms that they are your enemy, it makes sense to believe them.
Why? It makes about as much sense to me as believing any other political slogan.
Oh god, you're doing it again.
Yes, I'm sorry for not stating my objection in the form of a 10 page legal document, where all possible caveats are pre-emptively addressed, but that is exactly the problem I'm gesturing at.
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