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ArjinFerman

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Well, if you're still optimistic enough to believe addressing these responses with arguments and studies can change someone's mind, I don't want to poison you with my cynicism.

They might, if you tell them a trans woman wants to join their darts championship.

But otherwise, so what? For any question you'll find a person taking the other side of the debate, but an honest investigation of this particular question does leave basically no doubt.

Studies are lower quality evidence, than the combned scoreboards of every competition involving those skills, in their entire recorded history.

It's not. It's the people acting like there is such a thing that are hard to deal with.

By contrast, liberalism and progressivism fundamentally surrender that what others do or are is out of one's control, and the differences come down to how to handle that.

That created the loudest record scratch in my head I've heard in a while.

As far as I can tell this is precisely backwards. The entire point of progressivism is to remake human nature. What else do you call it's unrelenting obsession with equity, insistence that everything is a social construct, galaxy-brained ideas like having social workers fight crime? I've had progressives tell me point-blank that human nature does not exist. Even liberalism isn't free from this, though it's notably toned down.

To be sure there are right-wing equivalents of this. Fascism was a revolutionary ideology, so I can grant you the argument there - though I'd note that this is largely where Hlynka's alt-right progressive meme - but for more traditional forms of authoritarianism / elitism, their entire point is to respond to human nature, rather than acting like you can engineer it.

Crime is still lower than it was in the 1970s-1990s pretty much everywhere in the 1st world, and everyone who can actually remember the bad old days knows this

Are you sure this isn't more of a US / Anglosphere thing? Sweden went from a left-wing meme about the glories of social welfare and prison rehabilitation, to a right-wing meme about the dangers of immigration. Data from any country that has the guts to record the ethnicity of criminals tends to show that whatever crime they have, is mostly attributable to immigrants.

The only people who see brown faces on the streets and assume that crime is out of control are American racists.

What is this bit supposed to bring to the discussion? If it turns out you're wrong, are you going to admit to your racism, or does it only go one way?

I don't see how you can live well as a normie in a country where the bread is sweetened by default.

Buy a bread maker?

And what does Labour offer the people that they are not already getting force fed with two hands by the Tories?

Things did start moving there on the trans issue (to a far greater extent than in the US), and Labour could reverse course on that.

I'm not the best person to answer this question, since I don't dislike immigrants, and the current world is so far away from my perfect one that it renders your ennture question moot, but generally it's about loyalty. Leave your past loyalties behind, and endorse the host population as your tribe, and we're good.

Everything that's talked about around this subject - jerbs, crime, language, culture - is just a proxy for that.

What would you be willing to do to make it real? How many mistakes and how much damage are you willing to tolerate along the way.

"About as much as our current society is tolerating" seems like a reasonable answer. Your questions seems to assume the current system is making some sort of effort to avoid mistakes, but a cursory glance at the current state of affairs will tell you l that you could regularly ruin the lives of tens of thousands of people, and still come out on top relative to today.

And perhaps, what other qualities of this society would you be willing to sacrifice, to gain the ones you describe? (Universal suffrage, for example?)

While 2rafa fancies herself an aristocrat, I'm a pleb and proud of it, and I'd take that deal Ina heartbeat.

The whole democratic system is deliberately designed to minimize any chance the common people will have any kind of impact on policy, while insisting it is absolutely essential that they participate. At least spare me the humiliation of having to pretend I'm a part if the decision making process.

Isn't that infinite recursion? I thought all neocons were Trotskyites larping as conservatives...

If it was an effective of preventing him from using nukes, they would have done so to prevent or stop the war by now. That killing of leaders doesn't tend to pan out this way is my entire point.

If they could kill him without repercussions, they would have already done so, which means they either can't, or doing so would come with costs they're not willing to pay. This might change if he uses nukes, but it's far from clear to me how it would pan out.

He has seen into the abyss and with that you are still a viable candidate. That speaks about both the alternatives he is aware of and likely his calculus of what the baseline mental state of the educated Indian male of your social stature. If his daughter is hot go for it, and rub it in your brothers face that you overcame adversity.

Absolutely. Reject modernity, embrace tradition, take the arranged-marriage-pill. Your family knows what's best for you @self_made_human, listen to them.

How am I supposed to even begin to argue the opposite position? I don't suppose that the fact that AC2 exists today, and the people you're criticizing are still alive, but they're not complaining about AC2 despite having ample opportunity to do so, changes your mind in any way?

Is your position at all falsifiable?

That said, I agree people should have realized mainstream games, and media of all sorts, are a lost cause, and moved on a long time ago.

If they’d released AC2 in current year, the same people would be complaining that beating up the Pope was an attack on Western civilization.

The same people who are complaining about woke stories today, were alive and active on Internet forums back then, and did not, in fact, complain.

Anyway, can't wait for the new Black Panther game to come out.

Back in the before times we had to wait for a new SO to introduce us to friends and family, but apparently now if a man doesn't at least have a sort of "pre-introductory portfolio" in that regard girls worry that they might get the "it puts the lotion on its skin" treatment.

That sure stirred up some thoughts. In rough chronological order order:

  • Boy, am I glad to already be married...

and now if you start to type "dating las vegas" into Google then autocomplete will helpfully suggest "dating last chopper out of nam" instead.

Oh lol, I guess I'm not the only one.

  • We need a total and complete shutdown on America until we figure out what the hell is going on.

  • Butlerian Jihad when?

Fighting entropy is a noble act. It's sitting in traffic that we should eliminate

ohhh wait, people were not abusing that system? I'm not from the west though, so my baseline is probably lower trust than most readers here.

Yes. Going from a low-trust to a high-trust society was one of the things that blew my mind when I visited the US. High-trust systems no longer working is probably one of the biggest downsides of immigration, which will not be measurable until it's too late, and won't be easily attributable to it by any data you can gather, so The Experts will be able to gaslight people about it until the heat death of the universe.

Another thing is their electoral system. It's security is laughable by any objective measure, but it more or less worked until now due to high trust. Even if the previous election was more or less fair, it's only a question of time until someone decides to abuse it.

Well again, it's not that I don't sympathize, it's just it seems to be the times we're living in, everybody seems to be looking for a immutable-identity-scapegoat. If it's just two-three people on the whole forum that doesn't even seem to be so bad, compared to places like Reddit. Block, and move on, I guess.

Touché!

owning the libs (nobody cares who ADL or JIDF are here, of course, or even knows them - it's mainly that the left has traditionally been pro-Palestine for anticolonial/(post-)pro-Soviet reasons, so the enemy of my enemy thinking has quite naturally directed right-wingers to be pro-Israel

This works both ways, and for any point between the extremes. I really don't think there's a position on the issue that you can take, that doesn't own the libs in some fashion.

How many levels of tiresomeness are you on?

On one hand I do sympathize, but after a decade of listening to how cis-straight-white-males are responsible for all of society's ills, I'm tempted to ask you to take a number, and go to the end of the queue.

You can't escape western media.

But look closely and you'll see outliers for your chosen culprit.

And outliers to your outliers. There are high-fertility subgroups even in modernity-struck countries.

Personally I think the solution is pretty simple, just do this in reverse.