crushedoranges
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Persian exiles and expatriates are overrepresented in academia in the West. They're an ancient culture-civilization dating back to antiquity, of which courtly culture has been exported to both Ottoman and Mughal empires. They got through colonialism without the humiliation of direct annexation and build drones and run nuclear reactors despite pretty severe sanctions. I don't doubt their IQ.
The main factor holding them back is geopolitics: mountainous nations have a hard time centralizing. Since the days of Alexander Persia has always been more of a coalition of culturally-associated governates and with the decapitation of Iran's leadership, the country is essentially now being run by provincial IRGC warlords. And being a warlord doesn't necessarily select for intellect. Their elites may be dumber than the people they're oppressing.
It's my opinion that strategic ambiguity - ie, not knowing what the hell you want - can work if you're the monopole hegemon. It's up to the people you're messing with to come to you with an offer that gets you to stop. The bull in the china shop may not know why he's inside, but the shopkeeper definitely has an interest in leading him out. Not that any of this is well-considered or wise, but the question of 'what are we doing here?' can be answered by 'I don't know, but we're sure to find out if we break enough plates.'
So as long as I see feminists being fellow travellers for Hamas and for Iran, for Pakistani grooming gangs and Moroccan pickpockets, for shooters at the Bataclan and truck drivers at Christmas markets - it is a distinction without a difference. I have never heard a mea culpa from a feminist, about the Southport stabbings at a Taylor Swift concert. Even when girls are being killed and raped, they don't care because their overgrown mothering instinct sees brown people as babies who don't know what they're doing.
It's frankly insulting that you think that wordcel games like even matter in the face of mountains of evidence to the contrary.
It's always 'but think on how it will affect the poor, innocent Muslims'. Norm Macdonald parodied this attitude thirty years ago, and your posture is exactly the thing he skewered. I don't know if you know this, but 'moderate' Islam is a spook. 'fundamentalist' Islam is just Islam, a liberal cope. We know it from the Muslims themselves that there is only one correct interpretation of the Quran and the Sunnah. The fact that feminists uncritically swallow lies about this is proof that no one should take them seriously.
Here is my mea culpa to you, SecureSignals. If you had told me that a US Ambassador would talk up a greater Israel on TV, I would have dismissed you as a crank. I had underestimated the insanity of the Christian zionists - who I feel are not even Christian at this point, but crypto-Jews of a strange and bizarre breed. I fell on the normie side of not believing incredibly ridiculous things that were nevertheless true and I apologize to you for previous impolitenesses.
You were more directionally correct than I was and I must humbly update my priors.
SNAP benefits are about a thousand dollars a household per month: commercially, a 12-pack of MREs is $150. Let's assume we can get a bulk discount and get 12 meals for $125. That's 96 meals per month - 3 per day for four people, plus 3-6 extra for variety. It's not the most cost efficient, but it's shelf-stable, doesn't require utensils or a stove, and non-transferable. The paternal autocrat in me also likes the synergy with military production. What's not to like?
Edit: gack, I'm stupid don't mind me.
History become a lot less useful and evocative when it became about archaeology, primary sources, and nationalism. Herodotus, Plutarch, and the writers of the bible would weep at the astonishingly bad culture-mythos the modern day brings. Take WW2, for instance. Let's look into a history book where we kept the old way of historizing intact.
God sent a cruel and wicked ruler to the Germans, to punish the Jewish people for their impiousness, to once again bring them into captivity, as it was in the days of Pharoah. By wicked caprice and divine providence did he rise to power over the kings of the land. His name was Fuhrer.
And then God sent unto him a messenger, who warned him of God's wrath: that unless the Jews were allowed free, he would send upon them a plague of Americans, of Russians, of Turks, Arabs and Frenchmen. Of whose fury would blacken the sky and scorch the earth, of which every son would be sent to the grave, every daughter injured and outraged.
But God hardened the Fuhrer's heart, and so he rejected God's prophet, and thus calamity was upon him: and his kingdom was pulled down in each and every stone. Those who lived in his lands cursed his name and were divided, as Judea and Israel were divided in the days of Persian kings: and his lands were peopled by strangers. Such is the wrath of the Lord.
History: messy, complicated, no clear narrative.
Mythology: clean-cut, simple, evocative narrative.
Ahistorical insertions of contemporary themes is nothing new: the only difference is that the current writers are so inept at it that it breaks the suspension of disbelief. Imposing the liberal mythology onto historical events is threadbare and spiritually hollow and mostly amounts to the authoress self-inserting herself as a girlboss princess.
It boils my piss when people throw out accusations at people in the Motte in the general sense. If you're going to smear a 'not insignificant' fraction of his fellow partisans in this community as misogynists, you better have everything cut and dry or I'm going to assume you're talking shit. Name names.
If the value of your house is literally one dollar and you have a 3k mortgage, you walk away from it and the bank can have your worthless house. This happened a lot in the 2008 crash. They call it being underwater in a mortgage. Obviously the value of your house is very important!
You're being a bit silly, aren't you? Do you use this logic for cars? Would you be okay me taking a sledgehammer to your vehicle's body work? Maybe I could go to your house and shit in the chimney. You wouldn't feel poorer, would you? You still have 7k a month to spend!
Ah, whoops! My bad.
People who own houses often have it as their primary asset. Reducing the value of real estate is, in a very real sense, making them poorer. And people who own homes vote.
The American Dream is basically 'what if everyone was part of the land-owning class?' and then people are surprised that as a newly endowed member of that class, they are opposed to the renting class and new buyers. Well, no shit! You've spent a great amount of government subsidy to align their interests in that way.
Trump is just being honest in that he is siding with the landowners. Anyone who is an advocate for reducing the price of housing but isn't for building new construction is a liar who is a part of the problem. Their best ideas for reducing the price are to subsidize the demand and this is why structural reform is impossible.
Yes, of course. I won't bring it up again. Just wanted to get it off my chest.
I feel like I'm back in high school where both parties are punished, irrespective of actual fault. Obviously he was being deliberately obtuse, back then. Several commentors (yourself included) spoke out about it!
If there is a different read for 'So are you saying you're a Nazi then?', magickittycat hasn't explained themselves. They flounced. And now they come back, calling the Motte full of overtly online people. What ground does he have to stand on? The pot calling the kettle black? Isn't he making a generalized statement about a group that is an insult to everyone here? That really gets my goat. It violates multiple site rules on good faith, generalizations, and just manners in general. It's sour grapes from people who lose arguments.
I'll drop it, but it really annoys me that I can get dinged for personal attacks but anyone - even moderators! - can go 'yeah, this site is full of terminally onlines/partisan hacks/trolls' etc. It's sneering. If I called magickittycat terminally online, that would be a personal attack. But if they call everyone talking here terminally online, they can get away with it. Because they didn't single out anyone specific. He can be lazy and slur my entire partisan side as Nazis and I have to sit here and take it. Because ha ha, zinger. Just a joke. Why can't you take a joke?
No. Either Nazis are a serious subject out of the Overton Window, or I can break out the Nazi jokes, and believe me: my arsenal is great and terrible. I know you just want to end the argument and get it out the moderation queue, but that is specifically what set me off.
No, the average American will laugh at you because leftists have been calling every conservative a Nazi since approximately forever.
Your shrill shrieking has no more power. You are still crying wolf, and no ones hears it. Go on. Call me a Nazi some more. What should be done with 'Nazis', oh dark hinter? You didn't answer that question last time.
I make a commitment now: to continually remind the Motte of your complete lack of credibility, honesty, and good faith because you deserve it. I will hold you to account for what you have said because it is easy and you are ridiculous.
"Ha ha, I was only calling you a Nazi as a joke!"
Oh, so it's okay to joke about Nazis now. I will keep this in mind.
I will quote Amadan:
saying you understand why someone feels the way they do does not necessarily mean you feel the same way. That is in fact one of the purposes of the Motte, to explicate your viewpoint in a way that people who don't share it can understand why you hold it.
And you still don't seem to understand that. Nothing has changed. I know you're coping and seething and still calling everyone that disagrees with you a Nazi. I bring it up just in case anyone accidentally takes you seriously.
I wasn't going to say anything, but you're the one who called me a Nazi, and I want to get ahead of your pedantry and say that you pretending to be a moderate is a pretense no one believes. Your condescending argument is an insincere tactic. You would never make an appeal to moderation for any of the left's sacred cows.
And then you insult the users of the Motte. You really saying that the people around here are worse than Reddit? Than Facebook? Than X, than 4chan? Where is this mythical bar of virtue that we fall short of? Aren't you in this picture, Mr. Calls Other People Nazis? Aren't you equally shitting up discourse?
Get off your high horse, man.
What do you think a sanctuary city is?
I agree that not going after hotels and restaurants and farms for illegal labor is hypocrisy. But those in favor of remigration and deportations of such are not in the Trump administration: presumably, he is obliged to the business part of the coalition. This is not a happy marriage. But let it not be said that the good be the enemy of the perfect. If the current spectacle justifies building up the infrastructure so that such a future policy shift is feasible, I'm okay with it.
"It's a tense, dangerous situation, where someone may have just been killed. You know what would help? Me screaming into a man's ear hysterically!"
In an old movie, a man slapping a woman for being emotional comes off as sexist, but perhaps it's just received knowledge from thousands of years of women screaming their heads off and making things worse. Perhaps they were onto something.
But that line of argument basically goes 'the left can veto any right immigration policy enforcement with a heckler's veto', because they'll never cooperate with the right, ever, even when they lose elections.
My critique is that not only are these campaigns to correct problems wrongheaded and ineffective, they're of the long-term sort that expose the systemic problems of the party. Namely, that the party commands too much from the top-down. Party planners wanted to correct the birth rate to avert Malthusian catastrophe and did so in a inhuman and vicious matter. Now, all of those girls they aborted are a haunting hole in the demography. The slightest concern for the environment or health regulation could have forestalled disaster and plague. But it didn't happen.
Not to say that this doesn't happen in the West. But the corrective mechanisms in an authoritarian society are simply too slow to react to largely foreseeable problems. No doubt the next set of existential crises are lurking about, unchecked, because to point them out would be embarrassing to the local politicians - and to the party, by proxy.
This does not sound like a communist, technocratic government where pragmatism dominates. This is the rot of the Soviet Union - a bureaucracy and party apparatus who can only react and not proactively solve problems. I wish for the best for my countrymen. I hope they prosper to provide a second pole if America should falter. But I enjoy western liberal norms, and I'm not willing to oblige myself to the strong authority of a state. So I'm stuck in an uncomfortable place.
Ah well. My opinion doesn't really matter.
The problem is that those subsidies run up against the the bubble that is the Chinese housing market. To be married as a man in China requires that you have a property to even compete. More money is useful for those already planning families but does nothing to make men be capable of marriage.
I wouldn't be so opposed to the Communist party if they demonstrated technocratic chops to govern. But even if you look at the official figures, the birth rate and the demographic pyramid scream mismanagement. I don't know how people can sell Chinese technocrats as wise and farsighted luminaries when it's obvious they have the same short-term incentives that all politicians share. At least the West has the excuse that democracies elect feckless and shortsighted leaders. What's China's excuse for half a billion pensioners in 2100?
And so far, the solution it seems is to pretend it doesn't exist: to become South Korea with nukes with a quarter of the GDP per capita.
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