crushedoranges
Russia and Ukraine are two butch lesbians fighting over a condom
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I had the masculine pronouns in place, before I realized I actually didn't know your pronouns and asking you what they were for a bit of servile flattery would probably annoy you more.
The reason why there's a partisan tilt to my observation, and that's because righties do not go 'this forum is full of feminists/progressives/liberals, and I'm leaving' because A) no one says that and B) such a conservative would have already been preemptively banned a long time before they could get exasperated. I tried to be as nonpartisan as I could, but there really is a difference between righty and lefty crashouts: the former have personal animus against the mods and the latter are disgusted by the community itself.
It's like showing up to a zoo, which advertises itself with animals, and then complaining to the zookeepers: "I think animal-keeping is unethical. Why don't you get rid of them?" A Motte without the chuds and the HBDers and the holocaust deniers already exists: it's called the SCC reddit/comment page.
Admittedly, 1 and 3 are quite similar, but one is more emotionally manipulative than the other which I found annoying enough to warrant its own entry.
Ahah, that's fine.
It's kind of sad that I ping people's AI suspicions, when I've always been longwinded and rambly.
I wasted the good part of an hour writing this up, so to have the authorship attributed to Grok makes me the big sad.
But that's a perfectly valid reason though. It's not like the Motte is homework.
Good morning, my fellow patriarchs, my AIPAC fellows, my Thielite dudebros and gainsmaxxing vrilchads. We gather here in memory of the dearly departed: of the progressives no longer in our midst. Of those who unironically use low human capital as an insult. They who have flounced (and who may yet remain amogus with their alts) with long, boring wordcel essays on how we're all racists, or not participating in their personal armies against Trump, or what have you. Sometimes they even delete their posts, leaving only the scathing retorts to their shaming screeds.
But why do I bring the subject up, you ask?
The reason why I bring the unpleasant topic is because it's become a distinct genre of post on the Motte. Since I am a pattern-noticer of much skill, I thought it useful to put in the effort to make a F.E.C (Frequently Expressed Crashouts) as future reference, and to hopefully save time and effort in the future to what is otherwise a pretty repetitive subject. Feel free to add onto this list, if you feel I've missed anything. I admit that I am making rote argument and there may be gaps of which clever people can argue around it.
A) I'm not comfortable with witches/HBDers/misogynists/actual racists in the Motte. That's why I'm leaving!
First of all, so long, farewell!
Secondly, why are you even here? It's not like there's a shortage of places which moderate against such people. The whole point of the Motte is to talk to weirdos and freaks such as myself with as much politeness and decorum as can be managed. If the subject matter makes you uncomfortable, tough titties. You're an adult. You can decline to participate in conversations you have no interest in. Or you can make an argument that stands on its own merits. If you can remember how to make one!
B) The moderators are terrible at their jobs! They won't ban [X] or [Y]. Here's my evidence-
@Amadan is the embodiment of the Platonic philosopher-king, and their judgement is infallible, like the pope speaking ex cathedra.
The jannies of the Motte are of a different breed than the soft, nepotistic babies of Reddit. They are veterans of forum warfare. The Navy Seals of the mop force. If you take a look at Amadan's profile and sort by top rated, you will see a long list of people they've dunked. Their rage is truly a sight to behold. The only reason they haven't torn you apart yet with their immense verbal IQ is because the other moderators have to physically restrain them from the keyboard. The fact the moderators aren't handholding every little personal spat and argument is a sign of enlightened restraint, not weakness.
C) I'm just so exhausted by the witches/HBDers/misogynists/actual racists. It's emotionally draining. For my own mental health, I have to step away.
That was always allowed. Why are you telling us this? This isn't your blog.
One of the most insidious things in internet communities is passive-aggression. Oh, if only this space wasn't so toxic, I'd participate more! This is a favorite tactic of flouncers who want to use shame but aren't aggressive enough to argue with individuals or demand change from the mods. Using therapyspeak in any other context other than therapy itself is annoying and manipulative! If you want to leave, just leave. Don't make a melodramatic show about it. No one cares.
D) I'm being oppressed because I'm going against the consensus! You guys are hypocrites!
Is the consensus in the room with us right now?
I'm not going to disagree that there is an element of groupthink to all communities. But if you come to a community with the greatest concentration of witches, contrarians, and satirical trolls per capita and you're getting pushback - maybe you should rethink things. If you feel that your position is fundamentally correct, then the number of people disagreeing with you shouldn't matter to you. So as long as you present the best version of your argument for your position, all the downvotes in the world won't change the content of your post. But if you come into the conversation expecting special treatment for being an iconoclast or going against the grain - tough luck!
Perhaps your words aren't as convincing to others as you thought it was. Get gud. Skill issue.
If you can't see how this dismantles your entire argument, then I don't know what to say. If non-Jews can act like Jews, well - isn't that just behavior? What makes it particular to the Jews if other races can adopt it so easily?
I'm reminded of the stupidity of the progressive left with its expansive definition of white supremacy. Yours is the same idiocy, but for the Jews. You could just call it tribalistic nepotism and everyone would be fine with it, but you want it to be a particular crime that stains the entire Hebrew race, so you engage in these epicycles. You are not as clever as you think you are. Don't make the mistake of thinking the tactics that work on quokka liberals will work on me. I'll call you out on it every time.
The more I argued with them, the more I got to know their dialectics. First they counted on the ignorance of their adversary; then, when there was no way out, they themselves pretended stupidity. If all this was of no avail, they refused to understand or they changed the subject when driven into a corner; they brought up truisms, but they immediately transferred their acceptance to quite different subjects, and, if attacked again, they gave way and pretended to know nothing exactly.
Mr. Hitler is providing the exact map of your tactics, and so I will not engage. That you cannot earnestly engage with anyone and resort to wordcel debate tricks is not a superpower.
Why can't you take responsibility for your own behavior, as you so often rail on the Jews for not doing? Why do you pretend oppression when you constantly act in an obnoxious, Jewish way?
You are spiritually Jewish. It is not an insult. It is an observation, and a very funny one to me.
Don't change the subject, particularly not with a gish gallop. I have a problem with you and your behavior. I'll acknowledge these things as soon as you admit you are acting Jewishly with your evasions. I admire your glibness of tongue and skill at lying: an observation that others have made before.
I've copped several bans here in my lifetime, for being a jerk and uncivil.
Maybe it's the neurodivergence in me, but civility is not a high value from me. So believe me when I say that I believe in this argument.
Would you agree that a annoying, haranguing rules lawyer who barely scrapes by on the letter of the law, annoying the natives and engaging in disingenuous tribal argument is 'Jewish behavior'? Or, to borrow 4chan parlence, "Okay, Rabbi?"
You are engaging in Jewish behavior. Not that I believe that the definition is valid, or exists, but because you have provided one for me. You can hardly object to your own concept that you've introduced!
You have no grounds to criticize Jewish behavior when you so self-evidentially engage in it yourself!
I don't have a problem with anti-Zionism. I don't have a problem with anti-Semiticism, either! But if you could argue like a white man, instead of resorting to these nebbish forum tricks, I'd be grateful. Post hands, please!
I agree with you, but the prompt is to spread communism, not make an effective widget or increase milk production. I'm basically treating the core mission as superfluous while stealing as much money as I can to give to my friends before the whole thing collapses.
Mossad has deviously sabotaged Intel's 10nm and 7nm processes, forcing Windows laptop manufacturers to rely on Israeli-made chips - when overloaded with excess wattage - to reach temperatures high enough to detonate the lithium ion batteries within. That's why real warriors of the Ummah use AMD and ARM.
I know that the UN is something of a meme in terms of policy, but as signaling in international relations you can't get much higher then that. Take a look for yourself.
https://press.un.org/en/2026/sc16315.doc.htm
I'm not convinced that China or Russia are invested in Iran at all, if they won't even veto on a meaningless condemnation from the GCC toward Iran. Outside of the usual poke-in-the-eye espionage games against America, have Russia or China committed to any military or civilian aid to the Islamic Republic? What are these 'international conditions' you're vaguely posting about?
Who is Iran's great power backer?
I doubt anyone seriously expected the Europeans to do anything. But indifference from the international community to the Iranian war is good enough. If China and Russian can't even be bothered to veto the Security Council resolution against them, the Europeans tut-tut, and the GCC is on side - it's just letting the Israelis and Americans do the dirty work.
The two situations could not be more different. Iran is a bridge troll while Cuba is an welfare case.
Since you've slipped my Cuba argument, I'm going to assume that you've conceded the point.
It took me a moment to find the article, but the Americans have no formal oil embargo on Cuba from Venezuela.
It's not a rationalization: it's an objective fact, and you are the one who is full of shit. You're a third worldist who is upset that a communist nation is not getting free gibs. The fact the Cuban economy cannot afford oil imports at market rates is a result of their mismanagement, corruption, and incompetence. Mexico can quite easily sell to Venezuela at below-market rates. Why don't they?
Is because, I don't know, they want to make money, and not give away gibs?
Nothing will create a global multilateral coalition faster than Iran indiscriminately making the strait of Hormuz impassible. You might as well declare war on the entirety of the modern economy. No, the world won't go along with a global depression just to spite the Americans and Israelis. Not even China. Not even Russia. Iran is diplomatically isolated in formal and informal terms and no one is joining them in their last, suicidal gambit. And if all of those intellectuals you've linked don't recognize the fact they're stupid - and wrong.
If by oil blockade you mean 'no longer receiving it for free from Venezuela', then I suppose there is a global oil blockade on everyone. Cuba is the world's worst sovereign in paying back its debts: even North Korea has to play nice with China and Russia on occasion. It's like a bankrupt whining about a 'loan blockade' after defaulting on credit cards several times.
Cuba could very easily buy oil from Venezuela or Mexico. They just choose not to, because their government wants to pocket the American dollars for themselves.
Of all the stupid things Iran has done, this is perhaps the stupidest.
I've heard of no end of third worldists talking out of their asses, gloating about a petroyuan and the imminent fall of American hegemony. To those people, I say: how the hell can a sea mine collect a toll? At least drones and ballistic missiles can be aimed. How does this help the Iranians, who themselves use the strait to commerce their own oil? Any hope of Chinese or European arbitration in the dispute is gone now.
I would pay the Mondragon people to consult on the creation of a parallel institution in America - basically, run a startup in some field related to national defense. Socialist left-wing SpaceX is a market niche that is begging to be filled: I'm sure that MIC dollars would be poured into a non-chud rocketry program even if it never produced a working rocket. Anyway, the point isn't to make a working rocket, but to spread Communism: and funding it off venture capitalist funding rounds and government subsidies sounds like a great grift to have. If we actually produce something of consequence, bonus!
This scheme is already in place in the Linux and Firefox foundations. (All credit to Lunduke.)
Women are flat-out attracted to power and wealth, which the right can embrace as both aesthetic and fact. The modern left can't do that, seeing it as gaudy and patriarchal. But men are men and still wanna sleep with them, so mental gymnastics. Evidence to support your theory is the fetishization of authoritarian and wealthy men on the part of women, as exemplified in Fifty Shade of Gray and perhaps the entire smutty novel industry. No one is going around fetishizing male feminists. It's not a coincidence that leftist sex pests have power and authority because women are attracted to that and not the rank and file loser allies. The only difference is that ideological blinders prevent them from seeing the obvious motivation right in their faces.
Capital being the infrastructure of which energy flows makes a kind of sense - certainly science fiction has toyed with the idea of currency representing energy. Like Stellaris. But like all Marxist thought, it focuses too much on the commanding heights of heavy industry. It's not like you can dump gigajoules of energy to make software programming go any faster. At least, with our current level of technology.
But maybe that will change. Maybe LLM models and emergent AGIs will align Marxist theory with reality again - that you can brute force services by dumping measurable fractions of solar output into server farms. But if we're going to reach that postscarcity state, it will be through capitalism outmoding itself, not communism usurping it. Subjective value means that there will always be an economy of some sort, even as human beings are detached from material base needs as the engine for growth.
The Americans aren't protecting their own oil: they're protecting global oil supply - which goes to SEA and Europe. Blockading the strait is only useful if it spikes the price of oil to pressure the Americans to stop. If they're still selling to non Israeli, non American customers downstream then it severely limits the effectiveness of the tactic. It's just for show.
The Americans and Israelis do not rely on Gulf oil for this exact reason, ever since the supply shocks of the 80s. I find that people who talk up Iran's actions in this light to be silly.
You don't believe that sex is labor. Not really. Not even in the Lysistratan sense, where the old women demand that they be given their fair share of young and handsome men. Because then a rapist isn't a violator of a woman's chastity, but merely a robber of a stranger sort. The average prostitute charges less for her time than the $950 dollar mandatory minimum that California demands for larceny.
You can see where this is going.
Let me assemble this man of straw for you and jump straight to the point. Knowing all of these facts, are you willing to live in a world where sex work is labor, with all the implications therein? Theft is just an abstract form of stealing labor, after all. The remedy for theft is return of the property stolen or recompense of the service owed. (Assume that pain and suffering are baked into the prevailing rate of prostitution).
Can I rape you for an hour and pay a state a fine of 300-600 dollars?
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I'll try not to make this a "Amadan's Greatest Dunks" compilation, but here's something roughly representative.
GematriaUnlimited, alt of banned user, hater of MAGA but from a vaguely socon perspective, hysterical calls to action, namecalling.
Clementine, nonspecific objections to subject matter, not specifically naming names. Generally wishy-washy.
AlexanderTurok, "You're all retarded low-human capital."
KulakRevolt, "It's time for the reactionary revolution, talking is pointless"
You'll have to take my word for it that this is roughly representative. Flouncers who delete their posts are unfortunately permanently removed from the historical record, so I can only characterize them generally rather than specifically. Honorable mention to GuessWho the Darwin alt who got so throughly destroyed that they didn't even make a huffy flounce post, but instead slunk away in shame.
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