diabetous
7mo ago
is no defence if you go against Jews
I think dropping the context around timing here is important. As of now it's not socially-policing pro-palestine view points. It's socially-policing those who support it immediately after a terrorist attack.
If anything it's putting common decency and humanity above intersectionality & showing it's limits.
I'm not sure we're seeing any of the real pushback come from those inside intersectionality disciplines to even make your arguments. Now if/when they do you bring up some points, but it's the none-crazy world that normally lets intersectionality devotes just ramble is finally speaking up.
diabetous
9mo ago
But that's not the only thing happening. There are the people making mistakes on the team. A culture of minimizing mistakes is being enforced. A bar is being raised so to speak.
I don't doubt there is also a sphere of ill-intended harassments being laundered into the system or that a machiavellian type isn't attracted to doing the enforcement, but there is an enforcement happening that provides value.
diabetous
10mo ago
Gary Payton embellished a story about Shaq in a podcast ~30 years later. Shaq denies it ever including shit, never more than a day of piss, and claims it often was fake piss. The story hasn't been corroborated by others at all, so I'm trusting Shaq here.
That hockey story is from 1980s for example and culture has refined. The base level of 'hazing' that acceptable by society has radically changed.
Individual 'power-spikes' where incidents get out of hand and people get too into the hazing in a sole incident I find more plausible than an tradition-based repeat thing. Especially where it's homoerotic in nature. The myth of something like that never dies & tends to lead to a large impact than reality.
diabetous
10mo ago
You have the kind where everyone picks on the weakest member and we should get rid of that.
Should we?
As a form of enforcement of a culture's values is a target approach relative to the person's individual failure to meet it not efficient. I know experiencing the opposite where everyone in a group is punished for the actions of one person is brutal.
The direct feedback on your actions this elements of 'hazing' provide both the course correction for the individual and assuming it's free association a group selection effect that maintains the groups identity.
I was in a fraternity, but lived in the dorms as a freshmen during the hazing period. While my experience hazing was comparable to many who were live in freshmen pledges the fact that they could not reasonably say know I felt their experience to just be far more grotesque than mine.
So in areas where free associating is low such as compulsory K-12 school it probably should be regulated.
That being said 'homophobia' & machismo is rampant enough in this male groups that I'm highly doubtful that this is close to the real story.
they would be restrained by a group of 8-10 upperclassmen dressed in various “Purge-like” masks, who would then begin “dry-humping” the victim in a dark locker room.
I'm guessing this either an extremely rare occurrence or just a flat out fabrication.
Freshmen being forced to strip naked and perform various acts, including bear crawling and slingshotting themselves across the floor with exercise bands.
Also, what exercise bands have the force to "slingshotting" D1 athletes?
This sport allows transfers, they aren't under contract. Are none of these outbound transfers incentivizes by modern culture to speak out in some way? I think three ex players have complained about micro-aggressions type racism, but that's it.
I'd bet there was hazing but a large amount of hyperbole.
Same way we use Google by appending Reddit to filter out SEO crap.
Someone will develop a tool that defaults Wikipedia to pre 20XX and those of us in the know will have a knowledge boost over the average none-tech informed person.
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