dr_analog
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dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
2d ago
I think it is not widely accepted that you can just keep offering drunk women more alcohol and drugs and then organize a gangbang. But we'll see.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
2d ago
The part where she thought it might be fun to have a threesome with two guys and then a ton more drugs and alcohol were introduced and now she's in sexual contact with 7 men?
Some women might be into that but just because she wanted to do something a little slutty doesn't mean she signed up for getting legendarily slutty.
It is admirable that one of the men figured out there's something messed up about this and kicked them out of his place but how much happened before that point is still an open question.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
3d ago
Sure I'm not saying her story is automatically more credible I would just not dismiss it so easily.
You should be careful about how you read the DA's statement, they are almost certainly doing damage control until proven otherwise.
She reportedly told investigators at the time that she 100% believed she was raped and that only the initial encounters were consensual.
She also described being higher than she's ever been and being incapacitated. Additionally she was on marijuana, ketamine and alcohol. That could absolutely cause memory problems that don't resolve until later. My personal experience with ketamine is that it can be confusing as fuck and that's without adding alcohol and marijuana.
It sounds like she had a lot to process and didn't report it until two weeks later after some friends encouraged her.
Anyway we really don't know anything yet. My guess is she wanted to have sex with some of the men when she got drunk but after she was drunk she was offered the ketamine for the first time (not off the guy's penis) and after that it went into non-consensual territory.
Group sex on drugs is super fun but if you didn't all agree to fuck before you got high you're asking for trouble because this is very much how people end up incapacitated and have unwanted sexual encounters.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
6d ago
Granted, to use people out of uniform posing as civilians is perfidy or some such, but that does not make them terrorists, merely war criminals.
I'm not sure how criminal justice works in the UK (other than being continuously surprised at how light they can be, from personal experiences relayed to me by friends) but wouldn't they end up in a military prison if this were the case?
What I make of it is she felt like elements of it were non-consensual but didn't want to escalate it since it would just be making a big messy deal out of it and she just wanted to put it behind her and forget about it.
But instead word got out, and it started affecting her academic and social life and now that it's already in the toilet, there isn't much to lose by escalating it.
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