dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
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dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
3d ago
any child can join any profession if they work hard and choose through free will to develop smartness; and knowledge
People say they believe this when they argue IQ is fake, but whenever I try to clarify it I get ghosted. I ask them, so, you believe a student that scores 80 on an IQ test, if they study and work hard, can become a doctor? And you would be happy seeing this doctor?
Nobody ever says yes! On some level they appreciate that IQ tests are measuring something real, they're just uncomfortable with the brutality of the intellectual dick measuring.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
4d ago
My bad. I got lost. I read his comment and then came back to it a few hours later and thought it was a different one.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
5d ago
Yeah. Don't mind me, I'm projecting.
Well, it's ordered if the plan is to win the war.
It's deranged if the goal is to seek truth, which is what the public is owed.
Maybe the Minnesota AG can indict the wife on murder charges so that they can subpoena all of the evidence, because I don't see any other way a real investigation will happen.
Also, did the wrong thing happen to Chauvin? I don't believe he really intended to kill GF but he really should have known how dangerous that move was. He previously put someone in the hospital for doing it.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
5d ago
It would be fun if it were true in the same way everyone who was shot by Rittenhouse just happened to be a criminal in some way.
Just for the sake of argument: living with dad is not necessarily the same as court ordered legal custody or evidence of abuse and neglect.
Sometimes kids prefer living with the parent that's more checked out and permissive instead of the responsible one. It's annoyingly common.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
5d ago
Link? Epistemic status of these claims seems like 'social media rumors', to me.
I was joking. Sorry. Yes I agree with you.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
5d ago
A more full treatment of the 2019 officer body cam is here. It's inside of a news segment but no less disturbing. There's the part where a car drives up to her and stops and then a second part later where it drives into her.
CW: This is a first person video of female law enforcement officer being hit by a car. You hear her scream and groan. She dies from this. Hearing it makes it 10x worse to me, for whatever reason.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
5d ago
I contend the bullets were a lot more offensive than the words.
We probably could still use that Minneapolis mega thread, after all.
Addressing only some of your points:
The top down approach to this issue from the administration has been deranged IMO and pure conflict theorist.
I think there should be a credible investigation of the officer to get all of the facts out, even though I think it was justifiable self defense, so far. That probably isn't happening. That's bad.
Separately, I haven't seen many people here argue that the driver was specifically trying to kill him. The dominant belief is that she was recklessly driving away but didn't have good control, she clipped him, and some combination of the two ton vehicle coming right at him and the contact reasonably scared him into shooting her.
If you look at the third video from the officer's POV, it is indeed scary. It very much looks like the same setup of body cam video from 2019: guy in a vehicle, stopped, same distance, floors it and runs over the officer. Takes a second at most. The officer dies from the fatal crushing injuries. You can find both videos in last week's thread if you are inclined.
I freaked out a bit myself just watching the first person video of Good floor her car at him. I would have shot her too.
The bundle of biases I've collected in my life up to now cause me to react that way. To me it seems reasonable.
For fuck's sake, someone (possibly Ross) called her a "fucking bitch" not two seconds after she was shot, which cuts the other way.
That "fucking bitch" only sounds bad if you're not capable of empathizing with the state of mind of someone who opened fire because he thought she was trying to run him over.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
6d ago
That's incredible. I would retweet this, if I didn't want to incur some micropoliticalviolencetarget charges.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
6d ago
What if she's the partner that stays home and tends to the house though?
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
6d ago
I'm happy these guys have found something to do but attempting to make forecasts about socio-scientific progress as if it was a natural/mechanistic process feels too much like physics envy.
I identify with 2rafa's POV. While I think what you're saying is true at the extremes, how does it apply to the US? The Jan 6th rioters appeared to me to be hallucinating a tyranny as much as the people opposing ICE's lawful deportations are now. I disagree with portraying me as a friend of the warlord because the warlord is about one guy's vibe about what's right and using his club, whereas rule of law is much more legitimate than that.
The anarchy here comes from people who are otherwise materially well-off and essentially free being made mentally unwell. While the state's rule of law corresponds to at least some attachment to reality: judges ultimately field test what lawmakers and the executive enact against the constitution and reality. Yes some judges are unhinged culture warriors but I think it's fair to say 1/3rd to a half still care about reality. And we are not yet at the point where judges are being assassinated for handing down judgments that powers don't want to see. Wake me up when that's happening, I guess.
EDIT: I asked SlopGPT for examples of states with solid democracy and rule of law that still underwent rebellion and it cited the UK w.r.t. The Troubles, Spain post-Franco w.r.t. ETA, and Canada w.r.t. Quebec separatism. Surprising. So I suppose I have some reading to do.
EDIT2: although these time periods coincide with global trends in relaxed policing. Pinker's view would be that lax policing encourages disorder instead of cooperation by changing the payoffs
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
6d ago
I created a top-level post in the CW thread because it feels even more presumptuous to create a megathread, but maybe I'm thinking about this wrong.
I'm pretty worried about my liberal friends. The common mood is gloom, despair, thoughts of leaving the country.
Whenever I try to bring any nuance into the discussion it seems met with hostility, like I'm personally in favor of abducting dark skinned US citizens and sending them to CECOT.
I try to say things aren't that bad for 99% of the population. People are reacting to freak events and not real life. But it doesn't matter. I'm arguing utilitarian stuff and they're arguing deontology stuff. It feels bad for them to be in a society where Trump is their leader.
I don't really know what to say.
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