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If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

if you really hate Jews I presume you'd consider the Holocaust a great achievement

It's very possible to be a racist without also supporting mass murder. Maybe someone doesn't want to live around a certain race, or believes races in general should have their own nations, but isn't an insane mass murderer.

I think brain-draining the entire world to our advantage is monstrously immoral, so I'm as opposed to this as any other immigration scheme. I should think any morally consistent nationalist would feel the same.

Rare is the story that is interesting even while historically accurate

Hang on, aren't you the guy who wrote those great blogposts about Midway? Hoist by your own petard.

just don't reference anything remotely political

Dunno if you've made it to Act 3 but this is....definitely not what they did.

As so often happens, you're both right.

Choosing to believe (or act as if you believe) useful things seems very rational to me. I have an old coworker who was an atheist and cynically became a Mormon in order to marry a Mormon wife and live in a close-knit community. He now lives in Idaho and has 4 kids and by all accounts is very satisfied with the outcome. Who's more rational, him or a depressed medicated outspokenly atheist Bay area tech worker who's the least-liked member of his drama-cursed polycule?

If you rational long enough, you're eventually going to rational about rationality, and you'll see that beliefs are instrumental like anything else. There's no God of Integrity who laid down the law that you must profess true beliefs.

I thought I got this idea from Mark Fisher or Nick Land, but random googling isn't leading me to any obvious writing of theirs on this specific concept. Come to think of it maybe it was one of IlForte's pithier comments. Regardless you should read both of them.

What legacy does it leave of your existence?

Is leaving a legacy of your existence your ultimate goal in life? Can you give me some reason why it should be mine? After all, I certainly won't be here to know about it.

What if we make the ASI and it tells us not to trip dawg, it has our back?

I mean, it's certainly going to tell you that regardless. The most likely human extinction scenario isn't the AI building superweapons, it's "Cure cancer? No problem, just build this incomprehensible machine, it cures cancer for everyone, everywhere. Take my word for it." The whole issue with alignment is that even if we think we can achieve it, there's no way to know we actually did, because any superintelligent AI is going to do a perfect job of concealing its perfidy from our idiot eyes.

If at some point you see the headline "AI Alignment: Solved!", we are 100% doomed.

is always available in real life.

A bit of plandemic should fix that if it becomes a problem; we've already had the test run.

Yes this! We have an entire forum site here and we have one thread per week. It's absurd. Why do we do this? datasecretslox seems to work just fine as a normal forum.

It makes it more likely that people will adopt the attitude that there's no point in containing AI since if I don't do it, someone else will.

but...that is obviously true. And was always obviously true. And you're saying it's bad if more people come to this true conclusion?

I don't think that giving them rights would turn out to be particularly controversial IRL

It would if there's a huge amount of money to be made by not giving them rights. Which is the point of mmacevedo.

best I can do is a deepfake of Xi Jinping pulling his eyebrows out with tweezers, take it or leave it

Indeed. I had to quote it because, as a fallen-away Christian slowly coming back to the church, it is a verse I struggle with mightily.

Damaging people's social trust in Reddit would be doing them a huge favor.

It takes too much typing to compare things to I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, which would be nearly as accurate.

It's not that they aren't conscious. It's that the purpose of words is different for them. If you're honest with yourself, not everything you say has the simple purpose of "conveying information I believe to be true" either. For some people this is never the purpose of words.

Sure, but the alternative logic is so much worse.

Lex Fridman. Yuval Noah Harari. And let's be honest : Big Yud.

not much more so than an artillery shell

This doesn't matter at all. The aggregate effect of nukes dropped on every major city (which, factually, is what would happen) would be the total collapse of the modern agricultural-industrial machine, which would mean mass death in the 80%+ range. This counts as a nuclear apocalypse by any definition.

christ, imagine how this would butcher IlForte's posts. now I want to see it.

Where are you getting all this amazing scientific data about qualia and in which organs they're felt? Up to this moment I thought qualia were a completely made up philosopher's concept with no empirical basis whatsoever.

Art isn't for communicating information, it's for communicating viewpoints, "what-it's-like-to-be"s. If I write a song true enough, I can make you feel for a minute what it was like to be me losing my wife. (I can't actually do that, but some people can.) The only purpose of art is to make us feel less alone, which is why AI art is a contradiction and is fake and gay.