hydroacetylene
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hydroacetylene
2hr ago
The loyal Trumpist position is basically 'we can just pull the plug/flood the datacenters- we don't need to worry about AI alignment because if it stops doing what we tell it to, we'll just hard reboot'. Trumpists going full Alex Jones will target Trump's enemies with ridiculous accusations(because that is what Alex Jones does; this isn't a Why Files type esotericist. He's worried about people), true, but the actual response to Skynet is to turn off the datacenters- the median red triber does not believe a computer can defeat people, for that reason.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
The red can very easily win over decent-enough AI from big tech through a combination of normal corporate bargaining, democrats embracing socialist policies that directly threaten their bottom lines, and of course the stick.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
The Eskimos are alcoholic welfare scroungers, not communists(there are multiple reasons to vote for far left parties, and this is by far the most common), and US investment can pump more than enough money into the country to pay for welfare- without making them follow the Marine Mammal Protection act.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
Canada will just crack up rather than accede to US suzerainty. The US will be dictating the foreign policies of independent Quebec, Nunavut, Prairieland, etc, make no mistake, but 'Canada' the country? Never will it agree to that.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
The US is becoming an empire. Suzerainty is a standard part of the empire package- the British empire was full of member states who governed themselves. Greenland gave up the right to an independent foreign policy, sure, that means their diplomats can't take bribes for favorable votes at the UN. Small potatoes. But the historical norm is for those kinds of small states to have no independent foreign policy anyways, and it's unlikely Greenland particularly values the ability for its eventual independence to influence world affairs.
Now, what happens with the inevitable breakup of Canada is far more interesting.
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
Greenland wants to be independent. But it's unclear it can actually make it on its own- the Marine Mammal Protection act makes actual incorporation into the US unacceptable, but a micronesia like arrangement where it gets to use the US dollar, enjoy US military protection, and get US companies as major employers(probably for mining, shipping, etc) in exchange for trade concessions seems agreeable to both parties. That's probably the eventual goal.
hydroacetylene
19hr ago
the SSPX
Are politically active, hold normal careers in secular employment, use the regular suite of technology, consume normal popular culture(albeit less of it), have social media, and explicitly oppose withdrawing from broader society.
hydroacetylene
20hr ago
Maybe-ish.
First off, we don't know how many people go to the SSPX. They probably don't either. I would guess that their average Sunday attendance is 350-400K, based on their claim of a priest/people ratio of 1:500(this number sanity checks off of priest assignments to individual chapels very well). 600,000 is almost certainly an overestimate; even the SSPX admits this.
Growing isn't clear. We know that when the tradcath community in a given area is growing, the SSPX is usually part of that growth... but usually slower than regular union chapels. Nobody really disputes that pre-July '26 they were growing, but the sources of that growth are in strong dispute(high fertility vs adults joining). It's not clear whether the growth trend has continued- there's plenty of evidence that it has at least curbed.
One thing that is worth saying is that the SSPX leadership is not the same group as the bishops. Yes, this is weird, but they're led by a priest, not a bishop, elected by the general chapter(also of priests, not bishops). This is probably an intentional move to make their canonical status less clearly schismatic. The SSPX is also poor by tradcath standards; SSPX bishops and senior priests would make significantly more money if they joined a regular diocese. Typically in areas with multiple TLM options, the SSPX one has the lowest average income among the attendees. The SSPX as an institution also faces real financial constraints and regularly has to shelve projects due to funding(the FSSP almost never does this- they will raise the money for things they genuinely need to do. The ICRSS raises the money a bit faster. The diocese would just take on debt).
hydroacetylene
20hr ago
Columbus day is political today, obviously, but when it was first introduced, it was political in a different direction- it was pro-italian.
hydroacetylene
20hr ago
If AI safety becomes a partisan issue(as it probably will), then conservative media will start releasing Aella lore. Probably NYpost, then OneAmerica news takes it and runs with a 'TDS AI safetyists are controlled by a pedophile-sympathizing hooker' angle.
hydroacetylene
20hr ago
Was this in a heavily Jewish area, perchance?
hydroacetylene
20hr ago
American Grandmas are eager adopters of iphones- you can set them to large print without needing to break out your glasses, and they let you see pictures of your grandkids easily(there's even shared album features), and you can have arbitrarily large family groupchats...
It is true that American boomers(much more likely to actually be grandparents than Chinese ones) tend to use AI for gifs of dancing kittens, rather than generating grandkids.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
The haredim are the only people that take halakha seriously… and canon law is not actually very similar to sharia.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Nah, they’d have a field day with Aella.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
Eventually, the EA people’s personal lives will be in the tabloids, and it will make the whole ‘AI safety’ thing look ridiculous to most of the public.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
No, because 'Josephite' is already term in recognized but fairly uncommon religious use in the Christian tradition.
Mormon is, technically, the name of an angel who appears in the LDS tradition but not other ones; it would be the equivalent of referring to Catholics as 'Raphaelans' because protestants don't believe in that particular archangel, and actual LDS do not prefer it. 'Mormon' is already the equivalent of calling mussulman 'mohammedans'.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
The early mormon church believed in a kind of communal ownership(to fund its scams), polygamy, had a racial dynamic the quorum and president try to downplay, claimed its scriptures were actually the ancient egyptian for mormon stories, etc. Early mormonism was much weirder than today's version.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
You can just live that lifestyle at the cost of personal friction
hydroacetylene
2d ago
Politics is totally entertainment. That’s why we have President Trump.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
I’m sure there has, at some point, been a Jewish serial killer who drank the blood of Christian children. If you further clarified that you were referring to that guy, I think at least half of Jewish men would find the reaction of other Jews hilarious.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
Islamists we’re on the US side of the Cold War
hydroacetylene
2d ago
Mormons do not believe the same things as Joseph Smith.
hydroacetylene
2d ago
What do you think politics is, it not performance art?
hydroacetylene
2d ago
The Amish and the Hasidim have(often badly dysfunctional; these are not paradaisical cultures) worldviews alternative to modernity. The Mormons are fundamentally modern people. That's the difference.
And Islam comes with a complete premodern worldview and value system, complete with legal code straight out of the eighth century.
That one was gone before 1960.
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