magic9mushroom
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magic9mushroom
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15d ago
I'm not disputing that this is a state of affairs that's a major problem in need of solution. The fact that the Pyro thinks he's helping does not remove people's right to avoid being incinerated - in that case, if perhaps not this one, lethal force in self-defence is perfectly acceptable.
But "know thine enemy" is a basic principle, and there's a difference between some loon who thinks you're an evil alien out to eat his brain and a Mary Ann Cotton.
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16d ago
Depends on your definition of "evil". I generally require malice, and a malicious actor probably wouldn't try to confirm the situation with the wife before spreading rumours or making false reports to the police.
Not saying there aren't malicious people on that side of the aisle, of course - I'm not an imbecile - but this behaviour isn't something I'd take as evidence of it. With that said, severe delusion without malice clearly can suffice to produce major problems for others; the meme example is of course the Pyro.
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17d ago
If one can make claims about my comment history without the most convenient way to “systematically look through” it, one can back it up too likewise.
It's much easier to remember posts than the URLs of those posts, and theMotte doesn't allow searching for multi-word quotes or for filtering a search by a private-mode user.
drive-by
TBQH, most of my posts are on subthreads that showed up on the volunteer page; browsing theMotte is tedious. In this case, @Quantumfreakonomics' post got reported.
moving the goalposts
exact same comment every single time regardless of the subject matter
would be a
pattern in your posts
but the latter is notably shorter and I'm habitually concise.
I tried to check whether his accusation was hyperbolic, as it was relevant to rating his post and to whether I ought to chide him for it (example of me crawling up someone's arse over hyperbole within the last few days, in case you think I'm fabricating). But I hit your privacy block, and I'm not about to chide someone for hyperbole until I'm sure it is hyperbole (hypercorrection is a pet peeve of mine). And, well, hitting that block itself seemed extremely-relevant to your challenge, so here we are.
Part of my intent was to give you the opportunity to give QF a fair attempt, as I figured you may have had it on and forgotten about it. Another part of it was, admittedly, to ensure that anybody reading did not overupdate on QF being unable to provide evidence under present conditions.
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17d ago
It's a bit unsportsmanlike to dare someone to find a pattern in your posts while having private mode turned on to frustrate any attempt to systematically look through those posts.
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19d ago
It is highly polarized. And that's bad enough.
Agreed.
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20d ago
If you think the media is against you, then again that just makes it more important to not give over free wins for no reason.
You've always got to consider the alternative here. AFAICT you don't seem to be at the point of "if you don't do outrageous things, they will deepfake them" where the media reaction is fully a sunk cost, but you are at the point of "if you don't do outrageous things, most of the media time that would be devoted to them is devoted to rehashing the last outrageous things you did instead", which still significantly reduces the marginal loss, and at the point of "most people who consume the hostile media are already going to vote against you", which does likewise.
High polarisation causes a lot of incentives to flip from prosociality to antisociality.
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20d ago
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It's unclear what, exactly, they're going to be doing.
"Is Walz about to attempt an open rebellion" is, indeed, the trillion-dollar question, making everything else pale by comparison.
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20d ago
The US is maximally polarized, but it has been for a while.
Maximal polarisation is the state wherein everyone's picked a side and will stick to it. This is rarely achieved even in civil wars, and is definitely well beyond the threshold at which one will start (notice that massacres of political enemies become an effective tactic for winning elections when there are few neutrals who will change sides against the perpetrator).
The USA is highly polarised. Not maximally.
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20d ago
Is this a typo? ICE just killed a man. Seems like, if that's what they want, then you did in, fact, just give it to them.
I think the logic goes something like this:
"The protestors want violence because they believe the optics will win over neutrals and moderate rightists and thus result in the end of the protested behaviour. However, there are not many neutrals anymore, and the moderate rightists have hardened their hearts and no longer feel for the protestors. The protestors believe it's a win condition, but we and the world have adapted so that it no longer is one."
This is not my personal view. My opinion of the Blue Tribe protest apparatus is actually considerably lower; I think that probably over 50% of them do not actually have a solid picture of what their wincon looks like and how their actions will achieve it, and are merely protesting because protesting is cool within Blue Tribe circles. I think that any in the USA that do hold to the worldview Sulla described - and I'll admit there are some - are making a mistake, but not the mistake Sulla claims (there are still a lot of neutrals); I think the mistake is in assuming that there will be free, fair and competitive elections in 2028 in which the currently-constituted Democratic Party will have a chance but not a certainty of victory, which is required for the lean of neutrals to be relevant and to backchain into present actions of the Trump administration. Civil war and WWIII would both cause that assumption to be violated, violent protests increase the risk of both, and we're getting quite close to crunch time.
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26d ago
Try to put yourself in the shoes of one of them. All your friends are SJers. Your girlfriend is an SJer. Your internet hangouts are explicitly controlled by SJ, or have filter-bubbled you to the same effect. You probably went to some form of tertiary education controlled by SJ. Your workplace may be controlled by SJ-HR.
If you jump the fence, you're jumping it with the metaphorical clothes on your back. This is not an easy thing to do. In fact, the outflow overestimates it, because a lot of those who do "leave" didn't actually choose it; SJ expelled them first, and that meant they actually started talking to the deplorables leading to an eventual flip. That was my trajectory, for instance.
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29d ago
I often see right-wingers online virtue signalling about women with tattoos. They'll see a photo of a hot woman who has tattoos and start posting stuff like "eww disgusting" or "why did she ruin her body with that". I am convinced that 99% of these guys would fuck the hot woman without any hesitation if they had a chance, tattoos or not. It's just a big virtue signalling LARP to pretend to other guys that they care more about tattoos than they actually do.
I am convinced that you are overestimating when you say 99%.
I cannot stand tattoos. Almost all of them whack me straight in the uncanny valley; they are actively unpleasant to look at in much the same way a burn victim is. I usually wind up conspicuously averting my eyes from people with visible tattoos in order to reduce the revulsion. Obviously, this makes "a hot woman who has [prominent] tattoos" an oxymoron for me; I'm not super-picky when it comes to appearance, but "looking at this person actively costs spoons" is the kind of obstacle that renders romance impossible (though, obviously, if she agreed to have them removed - at my expense - that would remove the obstacle).
TBQH, shopping has gotten a lot less pleasant since tattoos became mainstream, because I wind up seeing them on shoppers and workers. It gets to me.
I'm certainly aware that lots of people don't have this reaction, and I believe you that you don't... but I also believe people when they say that they do. I'm not going to advocate that tattoos be banned, because I'm a libertine, but my quality of life would be noticeably improved if they were.
Sure, there's no reason to treat a bisexual in a heterosexual marriage any differently from a heterosexual in a heterosexual marriage. Actions, not thoughts, must be the basis of rewards and punishments, but "cohabiting with someone of the same sex" and "cohabiting with someone of the other sex" are different actions.
(If you extend "membership in a group" to include actions, this statement would seem to preclude locking people up for being in the group "murderers"; I'll presume you didn't intend that.)
Same-sex couples are not equal to opposite-sex couples in child-raising capabilities. There is, for starters, the issue that a same-sex couple trying to raise a child of the opposite sex is not intimately familiar with the biology of that sex and may not recognise developmental abnormalities. There are also biological issues; girls go through puberty earlier without a dad around, for the example I have to hand. Furthermore, human instincts against cuckoldry are strong, for obvious evolutionary reasons, and outside of dubious techniques involving making girls out of two eggs, it is certain that a same-sex couple with children involves at least one cuckold or cuckquean; this does pose a risk, if a small one.
They are still, overall, superior to single parents, but yes, there is a societal interest in there being more opposite-sex couples in particular, and non-recognition of same-sex marriage seems like a lever that could affect it given the far-greater prevalence of bisexuals than true homosexuals. It's not remotely a strong enough interest to justify sodomy laws, but we have government subsidies for many prosocial things without this being considered a heinous sin against those who do not do the prosocial things and thus do not receive the subsidies.
So, cards on the table: I'm a bisexual who's had a homosexual relationship (albeit a long-distance one), and I regret voting for same-sex marriage in our plebiscite due to having been convinced that bisexuals like myself ought to be somewhat incentivised and encouraged to pick an opposite-sex partner. Do I stand accused of animus against myself?
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