naughtynn
3d ago
think it was the trauma from the retcon that did it,
Thats what I mean. In Season 5 they show a tube being shoved down Will's throat and Vecna talking to him about how week Children are and how they will do what he wants.
naughtynn
3d ago
I concede that you are right. Equally in Episode 1 of Season 2 when Max joins the class and sits down, Luca, Dustin, Mike AND Will turn around to check out where she sits.
Doesn't exactly demonstrate that someone has been gay since Season 1
naughtynn
4d ago
This is a good example of why all human rights lawyers should get the rope
naughtynn
5d ago
No she didn't. She said he was a sensitive child. Some of the bullies said he was a fairy, and that he was off with the fairies. That was the extent of it.
Bullies calling someone gay <> someone being gay. A sensitive kid, who is into art <> gay.
I'm sorry, but Season 5 was garbage. Okay, maybe that is too strong. it's the Big Mac of television. It felt okay watching while watching it but is ultimately empty, devoid of meaning. They did the same trick as Episode 9 of Star Wars, except better. Think about any aspect of the plot and it all collapses into a pile of questions and contradictions.
Also, no one said shared trauma in the 1980s, which they explicitly did in Vol 2. In Season 1 the kids acted like kids, teenagers like teenagers all from 80s movies. In this season, they don't act like 80s people.
Will being gay is because the actor is gay and wanted Will to be gay. This was their Emmy scene that they thought would get them recognition. It took them too long and the wheel has turned. It's 2025, nobody needs a fucking coming out scene anymore. People are sick of gay shit and diversity being shoved into everything. It didn't add anything to the show, the character, or the scene. Would the season have been any worse if that scene was cut? No!. It's purely there for pandering. Thats what woke bullshit is pandering.
I think the bigger thing is how anti-woke the show actually is. Is Vecna as a metaphor for pedophilla? He grooms the kids. Convinces them he is their friend, before Shoving tubes and fluids into their mouths. Traumatising him. Leading to the obvious question, was this trauma what made Will gay? This has long been an argument levelled at gays, that their debouched nature lead to them grooming kids to become gay. This season is the literal embodiment of that.
naughtynn
4mo ago
The Mandalorian was heavily inspired by classic spaghetti westerns—especially the "lone gunslinger" type of story. The Mandalorian worked because they are fundamentally masculine stories. The appeal of the lone gunslinger story for some men lies in themes of rugged individualism, courage, moral ambiguity, and the romance of the untamed frontier. These characters often embody a desire to protect the innocent, confront evil, and possess a self-sufficient, solitary strength that resonates with a desire for independence and a simpler, more honorable way of life.
naughtynn
4mo ago
naughtynn
4mo ago
If you look at the Star Wars sequels, what male character can boys look up to? Can any of them be considered heroes? Look at Indiana Jones. They wheel him out, make him useless and is replaced by a woman. Marvel is the same. Robert Downey Junior retires, and they replace Iron Man with a sassy black lady.
In modern media, white men cannot be the hero, cannot do anything heroic. This fundamentally is why these boy brands are dying. They take these properties and then the only thing the creatives want to do is tear down the characters that people like.
Boys don't enjoy literature/films with female protagonists, while girls are okay with media with male protagonists. This has been demonstrated in numerous studies:
A 2022 analysis based on PIRLS data found that elementary school boys were significantly less interested in texts with female protagonists—even when the text was otherwise identical—while girls showed consistent interest regardless of protagonist gender - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0959475222001013
A 2008 British study of about 4,000 children aged 4–16 found that only 5% of boys preferred books with a girl protagonist, while 22% of girls were comfortable with male protagonists. Boys were as interested in protagonists like robots or monsters as other boys, suggesting the issue isn't solely the female gender but perhaps relatable content or format - https://lisamartinbooks.com/articles/2016/11/26/where-the-boys-are
A long-standing pattern noted by children's literature professionals is the belief that “girls will read books with boy heroes, whereas boys won’t read books with girl heroes” - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/may/06/gender-imbalance-children-s-literature
As someone who recently went on a date to a burlesque circus, burlesque is now mostly queer coded. It was an excuse for mainly gay buff acrobatic men to get nude-ish and then some women in skin-tight gymnast like clothing to do acrobatic stunts.
This discrepancy in nudity between the sexes was startling. It was not designed for the hetro male gaze. It was designed for the queer gaze. If it was designed for the hetero gaze, more men would attend.
There is a French restaurant near me that did burlesque and dinner, and that was much more hetero coded, and equally the audience was more normal (in that it didn't skew queer or gay or woman). It was also more enjoyable, at least for me FWIW.
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