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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
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pm_me_passion
אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Let’s say all the ultra orthodox will, just to make the numbers easier. That’s about 1/7th of all Israeli jews, roughly a million people. But, they don’t have a proportional number of venues, it’s much less and they’re generally dedicated for their own uses (e.g they only allow badatz kosher food, separate women and men’s areas).
I don’t know if Easter is well known enough to be refused by anyone.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Can you book a regular orgy at any venue?
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Is it the case that I would have trouble finding a venue for my Christmas party?
There's a substantial Christian minority in Israel, and about 1/6th of the population is Russian and celebrates the equivalent Novi-God. You might face trouble if you try to use a venue from ultra-orthodox Jews (Haredim) or something, but otherwise your only problem is that everything is fully booked already.
pm_me_passion
אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Either way, Israel's new government will be worth watching for how far a genuine right-wing government can be allowed to travel before it gets blocked by the establishment.
You're projecting American culture and idioms on a completely different culture. The entire meaning of "right wing" in Israel is different (e.g. it's not 'conservative' in the American sense), and the assumption that the establishment is somehow opposed to the right is another Americanism. The establishment in Israel is populated by lots of ex-military guys, and being Zionist (= Patriotic) is practically a prerequisite for any movement or person to succeed outside the margins of society.
The presence of any meaningful leftist movements in Israel is rather marginal - represented politically by Meretz (so small they're not in the current Knesset even) and Labour (also small). While there's a lot of what an American might term "woke signaling" in the Tel-Aviv area, especielly with regards to LGB stuff, it doesn't extend well to actual minority populations. The Arab/Jewish divide is very deep, not like the Black/White divide in the states, so whenever woke rhetoric is projected on them it falls very much flat. It's just a different landscape, really.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
I listened to that Freakinomics episode when it came out, so I’m a little fuzzy on the details, but IIRC there’s a woman from Google there that explains how they A/B tested their search over a long period. She said that one group ended up searching more than the other - and then concluded that that means they were more satisfied with Google search.
Now, maybe I’m not as smart as the people over at Google, but I concluded the exact opposite- the people who searched more could just as well be re-searching the same thing, since their first queries didn’t work. It’s not like the alternative is to use Bing, right?
I don’t know which answer is right, but I do think that having people work on a product like this, making absolute conclusions from data that can easily go either way and then making decisions based on that, can’t be good.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
I tried so hard as a kid to beat it, but never succeeded. I think I even managed to get to the final tile once, there’s only 3 levels iirc. None of my friends managed to beat it either.
It also came with a CD with all the songs, performed by “roadkill”, which was so awesome. I hope they at least use that in the movie.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Oh, my bad, I thought you were replying to this:
https://www.themotte.org/post/205/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/38252?context=8#context
pm_me_passion
אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
I think it’s this one:
https://freakonomics.com/podcast-tag/puppy-play/
Around minute 37ish. It’s a professor of something or another, and he came specifically to talk about it.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
He also said that Hitler invented highways and the microphone. That got a genuine laugh out of me.
Timestamped YouTube link: https://youtube.com/watch?v=inSgi4uWv-Y&t=136
pm_me_passion
אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Oh. Well, “we (they?) are doing well, thank you” seems like the appropriate response. There, I solved the question!
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
and those who view the JQ as the most important question of our time solidly in support.
This might be a good place to ask, but what exactly is the "question" in JQ? it used to be "what should Jews' legal status be" in the 18th century, is it still the same question?
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
In my experience, most people working in an organization don't know or understand the big picture. This causes them to both overvalue the contributions of their peers - since they can understand them - and undervalue the contribution of other parts of the organization - which they fail to understand the value they bring. See e.g. this exchange I recently had with @thomasThePaineEngine regarding what HR does for the company.
If you mostly talk to programmers, you'll get a distorted image of the importance of programmers and probably some denigrating image of everyone else - first-level managers, C-Suite, marketing, HR - who perform non-technical functions that are vital for the company's existence.
In truth, while (almost) every function in the org is vital, most people performing those functions aren't. This is true for every discipline, and as such includes programmers. At the very least 50% of the people in any one discipline could probably be safely replaced, with minimal overhead.
On the other hand, there really are some high performers who deserve a high paycheck for what they do. Not all of them get what they deserve, and that's a shame. Sometimes it's because those people aren't assertive enough, or because some company policy prevents them from getting a very high raise. Some other times it's because they're very valuable to the org they're in, but much less valuable everywhere else - which means they don't have leverage.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Why do you conflate "self-centered" with "evil"? Those are very different. You can be focused on yourself without harming anyone - actually quite the opposite. Usually when you focus and better yourself you can pull along your loved ones, either by example or by gaining the means to help them (e.g., financially). I think the first step is to really hammer that in.
Another thing to consider is that nobody likes a covert contract. You can read more about this in the book No More Mr. Nice Guy, which is usually recommended in red pill circles for good reason. Actually, just read the book - it's not gospel, but it helps. I mention this because you said:
I've basically sacrificed myself multiple times, halting my own life to help others [...] and I've received... Nothing.
Which is a classic example of a covert contract. You did something, gave up quite a lot, and expected something in return. Did you ever mention that to anyone? What were you expecting? If the other party to your contract isn't even aware of it, how can they be expected to act on their side of this unstated contract? These kinds of things should be talked about, ahead of time, otherwise you can't expect anything in return.
Was I taught wrongly and this is actually a positive role model?
Yeah, probably. It's good to be assertive.
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2yr ago
It’s going by the jewish calendar, supposedly going back to the creation of the world in genesis 5783 years ago.
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2yr ago
It's an old webpage that became a meme, at the time.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
I’m not sure what your angle here is. What are you trying to say? Do you actually not understand my point, or are you just being obtuse?
Discrete math is as basic as it gets, it’s first semester CS/Electrical/Math/Physics. It’s literally the base. Saying logic isn’t part of math but has “a complicated relationship” with math… again, I don’t see what you’re getting at. Seems like an objection for objection’s sake.
Again, the point is that it is convention to assume the common interpretation/ context of a statement when we assess its truth value, unless otherwise specified.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
“This” is that we assume the common interpretation if one exists. The second quoted paragraph explains it.
Logic is a part of math. The book is from an undergrad discrete math course I took once, so I pulled the book from the shelf to quote for you.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
My comment has nothing to do with bases either. It has everything to do with assuming common context.
This is like you replying “My post has nothing to do with 3*4”, you’ve missed the point entirely and got hung up on the example.
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2yr ago
This is usually covered in basic math courses or textbooks. For example, freely translated from The Open University of Israel's a quick intro to logic:
We mentioned that 3*4 > 10 is a true statement. This statement is false if the numbers are actually written in Hexadecimal base, where "10" represents the decimal number 16.
So that we don't require the assistance of a lawyer every time we determine a statement to be true or false, we agree that in every case where concepts have a common interpretation or context, we assume (without mentioning) that we speak in that common context, [...]
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
I wouldn’t mind it if there were some pushback in the replies.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Huh, true. Guess I glossed over it. Maybe it's because you changed the order of the sentences (Why?).
I wouldn't agree with the characterization. "Citation needed" seems well placed, at least.
In any case, I pity the people who think חצפה is a negative trait.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Maybe it would have been more interesting had OP actually made any replies. Same for his single comment in the CW thread, btw.
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אֲנָשִׁים נֹשְׂאֵי מָגֵן וְחֶרֶב וְדֹרְכֵי קֶשֶׁת וּלְמוּדֵי מִלְחָמָה
2yr ago
Chutzpah amounts to a total denial of personal responsibility…
Are you quoting something? The link above this line says nothing of the sort. Are you just marking the important bits with italics?
Hard to say. There’s no actual legislation going on yet, so it’s all up in the air. The examples given to western media aren’t actually relevant either (who cares about Christmas, or Christians for that matter? It’s not really a front in the culture war). In a general sense it sounds pretty bad to me, but I can’t say what will happen in practice.
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