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				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Under LVT theoretically all property is basically worthless because its value is taxed away.  It would be impossible for its value to grow that large, because the associated taxes would grow at the same rate, making its net value 0.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


I've not thought of nor seen a solid rebuttal to this proposal.




The simplest rebuttal is that it is immoral to tax people for having natural human feelings of attachment to their home.  You could make the same case for forcing people to set a sale price for their children.  Very efficient for clearing the adoption market.  Or for their spare organs, even.  By forcing people to pay for the right to not be forced from their home, you are turning a voluntary market into an involuntary one, which degrades the market and degrades basic human rights and dignity.


That said, I'm not totally against the use of eminent domain powers where you have obstinate sellers blocking genuine civic improvements.  But I think the "public benefit" of such seizures needs to be adequately established.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


If we grant that people's feelings have moral weight then we're opening up quite the can of worms here.




I don't see how.  We account for them in myriad other laws.




If people aren't willing to place a specific price tag on their 'feelings of attachment' then how can we know that their attachment outweighs that of the buyer's desire to have the house?




Because otherwise they would sell at that higher price voluntarily, presumably.




How ELSE can you figure out how to weigh the disparate interests here?




Voluntary transactions, the same way we clear most markets.  This is only a problem because you're starting with the assumption that the owner shouldn't be able to benefit from the transaction.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
It is basically worthless to them, if you assume the landlord is charging the maximum possible rent they are willing to pay.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


They're free to name an arbitrarily high amount, but then they'll be held to that number by being taxed on it.




Well then it's not strictly voluntary, is it?  If you can't afford to pay the taxes on your subjective valuation, you're forced out of your home just as surely as if the government re-assessed your property at a higher rate than you can afford.


This is why we don't normally tax wealth.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


In the same way any tax isn't strictly voluntary, yes.






But this argument generalizes to literally any sort of tax you could impose. I'm happy to have that discussion.






But I thought we were engaging with the LVT idea itself.




The LVT is a taxation of 100% of land value.  This is unlike any other tax we currently do impose that I am aware of.




Is it better to depend on the government to declare a valuation which you have almost no control over?




Yes, quite obviously, because I don't have to pay to vote.  If I don't like the taxation level or think the assessments are wildly inaccurate, I have regulatory, judicial, and electoral recourse.  In your system, if any person in the world decides they want to force me out, they can and I can't do anything about it except pay them their declared value.


Imagine how this affects investment, too: if you want to attempt a development, you have to pay extra taxes for the privilege of not having your investment bought ought from under you as soon as the risk is retired.  If you're lucky, you get to just about break even.  If you're unlucky, you lose your investment and the high taxes you paid.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I would think that in a lot of cases, the house would have negative value, since it would have to be demolished and cleared away in order to improve the land.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Okay, so imagine a much smaller offer, say $10,000.  You could prevent having to accept that offer by naming a higher price, but you have to pay a tax to do so, a tax calculated to be punitive enough that you would be indifferent toward paying the tax or not increasing your price.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
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Is it deterministic? Wouldn't the same prompts fed into the same front end into the same model yield the same result? That would be sufficient proof I think.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
What part do you disagree with?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Small-Scale Question Sunday for October 16, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Always liked Korgoth's "hairy balls of the gods!"


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 17, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Right, exactly.  "I called the IRS and they told me to do this" does not get you out of being penalized for violating tax law, for example.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 17, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Re: cheating, I don’t see how improving turnout can be considered cheating at all.




Speaking generally, but when it comes to juicing turnout selectively in areas highly likely to yield "helpful" votes, i.e. with questionably-legal drop boxes on university campuses and in extremely Democratic districts (and even at highly Democratic-aligned events) as was done in Wisconsin, it seems a lot harder to defend.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Friday Fun Thread for October 21, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I think an obvious choice would be Don't Stop Believin', or maybe Sweet Child of Mine. They pretty easily exemplify the peak form of rock and roll: strong melodic vocals, a driving backbeat, rhythm and harmony guitars, and soaring guitar leads.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Dunno...some shred of human decency? The same way I'm not gleeful about red triber suffering. The same way that if I were, you would be outraged and calling me out for it.




I never really see you posting here calling out anyone on your side for being gleeful about suffering, the way you seem to be demanding of others. I'd say it's one thing to criticize the actual stated positions and feelings of posters here, but another thing altogether to get all pissy that there are insufficient denunciations of third parties.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I never said you don't have heterodox opinions. I recall those posts. I specifically said that you don't do what you seem to be expecting others to do here, though wrt to your other reply I may have misunderstood what you were saying. However, I don't think it's right of you to take out your outage at Twitter hot takes on posters here, if that's what's happening.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Hence, if I call you a groomer, that means I am accusing you have wanting to have sex with children.




That is not quite true - many groomers have done so, so that someone else such as a spouse, relative, or authority figure could have sex with them.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


It's also literally the Capitol building, which I think a reasonable person would expect would be off-limits for peaceful protesting




Why would a reasonable person think that?  Other state capitol buildings, e.g. Wisconsin, were occupied for lengthy periods by people conducting protest activities, with all their rights to do so protected.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Doesn't mean we can either. Status-quo bias is legitimate, inasmuch we can assume there is no barrier to achieving it in reality and the unforeseen consequences are already baked in. Better than nothing is a high bar.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The new orbital payload economics just from Falcon 9 have already changed the world.  Starship would represent a revolution.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Easier to fix this issue by providing (paid?) users robust blocking abilities, I would think.  Hard to claim harassment when you can trivially never see it.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 24, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
It's not inherently sexual, but is strongly sex-adjacent. There's nothing inherently sexual about nudity, either, but I think you'd agree you'd probably be pretty suspicious about adults who are really strongly in favor of being naked around children (nonsexually, they promise).


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Friday Fun Thread for October 28, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
In fairness, there was a little thought out into the choice. Additive magenta is a genuine non-spectral color that does not actually exist in nature and cannot normally be perceived in objects, but can easily be created in projection.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 31, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Is there a (iii), where Musk isn’t making any unforced errors, and the mass abrupt firing of staff is necessary? If anyone can help me see it, let me know.




That (iii) would be that the employees are currently or likely to soon create substantial negative value for the company.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 31, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Or, he is too valuable to the MIC via SpaceX.