sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
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sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
24d ago
unless the people wish it (which they don't).
How do you figure that? I do not think the brutal extent of conscription in Ukraine is currently deniable. If the people wish it, how come volunteers are so insufficient? And it's not like you can ask them because elections were suspended.
Perhaps it is a noble and un-futile fight, but from what it seems, the people (as opposed to the leadership) are sorely lacking the will to fight it.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
25d ago
Property is something you can own.
Parents (including adoptive parents, or legal guardians) do not own their children.
It is possible to own a person extralegally (such as through enslavement by human trafficking), but this is not an inherent part of surrogacy.
Thus I figure surrogacy does not make children into property. Not any more than being able to waive parental rights does.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
25d ago
How do you define surrogacy as selling children if at no point does the child become the new parent's property?
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
25d ago
That argument applies to surrogacy 1:1.
Perhaps in the world before, when children were factual property of the head of the house. Today, as some lament, we do not own our children.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
25d ago
What does it mean to "not be Christian enough"? This sounds more like a political division than the faith that all are saved if they follow Jesus Christ.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
25d ago
Marriage was a contract historically, at least until it's become more like a suggestion in many countries.
That was pretty much my first thought. If you sign up for surrogacy, by all means keep the baby even if they're gonna be half-braindead, but don't expect to be paid for the job.
If anything here can be called demonic (as in, driven by alien forces beyond mere human wickedness), it is not the act of purchasing a child from a woman individually (rather than in lifelong contract), but the use of courts to arbitrarily litigate sums in vast excess of the original contract from, as far as I can tell, thin air.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
27d ago
I liked the sequel more, actually. "I guess we'll just have to kill 'em" is far more honest. Every atheist who's talked to smart theologists knows there can be those who can beat you in an argument even when they're wrong.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
29d ago
I do not put triumph over sickness, infirmity and hunger in the same box as deciding that you don't need to consider fellow humans either.
There is a difference between the kind of conscription where no one really wants to be the first to volunteer, yet will acquiesce if/when voluntold, and Ukraine. Men of apparent fighting age are being ganged up on and forcibly packed into buses by recruiting officers. Either the people do not want to fight or the government is being very stupid by overreaching where a gentler hand would work.
Also, it being a "normal" or "legitimate" thing to do or not has nothing to do with whether the people want to fight or not. You asserted they do. I see little evidence of such, and ample evidence to the contrary.
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