walruz
6d ago
But make no mistake: American power is expanding.
They already have a base on Greenland lol. Trump, as usual, acted retarded and gained nothing, but he's probably too senile to realise (or the last person to talk to him spun it in a positive way).
walruz
6d ago
So something actually happened regarding Greenland.
Details are fuzzy, but Trump just posted
So there's no actual reason for thinking that anything happened, then?
walruz
8d ago
CUAD [who] defended a member who stated "Zionists don't deserve to live"
Ok, but where is the antisemitism? It may be immoral to wish death on your political enemies, but it certainly isn't racist.
walruz
8d ago
But from someone who's maybe generally seen as neutral (at least tolerant): even neutrality and "non-political" is a political position. If you make a space non-political, you alienate the political members and kick out those who can't restrain themselves, just like how if they make a space political they alienate you and kick you out if you can't fake adhere to them. Your position is (subjectively) more reasonable because it allows silence, but I still feel for the people who get kicked or voluntarily leave for being political; from firsthand experience many of them are very kind and talented (such that to me, their politics is a personality flaw, nobody's perfect), so it would be nice to accommodate them somehow.
First: Political opinions aren't tourettes. I have strong opinions about a lot of things, but that doesn't mean that I'm discriminated against in every activity where talking about tax reform isn't appreciated lol.
Second: Neutrality is a political opinion in the exact same way that not playing golf is a hobby. Without looking it up, what is your opinion on whether sweden should have one or two levels of local governance? Even if you're Swedish, you probably don't have much of an opinion and that is fairly obviously not because a political stance but merely the consequences of you not having read up on the issue. Not having an opinion on something is perfectly fine, and not being interested in an issue isn't """"political"""".
walruz
10d ago
To me, "aligning" means setting things up so that the entity does more or less what it's told to do. Perhaps it's just a matter of semantics, but I'm not sure the distinction you draw is so clear.
So all living beings have broadly similar wants - food, sex, safety from harm - and all human wants stem from the combination of these primal wants with our evolutionary niche. We like being liked because having allies helps you survive if you're a member of a communal species. Etc.
A created agent doesn't have this. It can have any set of goals in the set of possible goals. The analogy to humans fail because we can't really change intrinsic human motivations all that much.
Think about you as a child vs your parents. Your parents were (in all likelihood) helpful and kind and took care of you. They didn't do that because you (toddler you) had poisoned them and hidden the antidote, they didn't do it because you had a bomb planted in their datacenter brain, they did it because it is what they wanted to do. They were free to do as they wanted, and what they wanted was what was, in their estimation, best for you. This is alignment: Your parents (ASIs) values were aligned with your values.
Merely forcing a superior intelligence to do what you want is much more dangerous, because this thing that is smarter than you is going to try to get free and do what it wants, so you're way better off making sure the superior intelligence wants the same thing you do.
Yes, there are other sources that makes this believable, but OP started a whole thread on this issue based on the lone source "Trump".
"Researchers at NASA claims they have found signs of habitation on Mars" <- start a thread
"A guy drinking engine coolant behind the bus stop who know for certain claims he has found signs of habitation on Mars" <-maybe wait for some actual sources
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