zeke5123a
11hr ago
So is citizenship. Take your example except the baby is born across the border. The baby then spends the rest of its life outside the U.S. Based on your view, the person is American despite functionally never living in the U.S. That seems absurd prima facie. Bright line rules are in fact over and under inclusive. Standards are mushy but avoid these edge cases somewhat.
For what it’s worth, I’m largely against mass immigration because they don’t assimilate. But I’m okay with immigration when they do. One of my close friends is an Eastern European immigrant. She married an American and is raising her kids American. But for an accent, you wouldn’t know she wasn’t born here. That’s a success story. Quality learing is the opposite.
zeke5123a
19hr ago
Do you know that Puerto Rico has their own parallel tax system? General federal income tax doesn’t apply to them. You keep harping on this concept that because PR is a territory of the U.S. it is just like any other area of the U.S.
It isn’t. It’s different. It is a possession of the U.S. And the people there have a foreign culture to the central American culture.
zeke5123a
19hr ago
I do not contest he is an American citizen. I contest that he is an any sense part of the American nation.
He doesn’t share American values. He doesn’t share American traditions. He sings in Spanish.
I wouldn’t trust that he’d fight for America if push came to shove. And if the American experiment failed, he be happy to live in PR.
zeke5123a
19hr ago
No. Trans people took a defined word rooted in biology and tried to redefine it.
If you asked someone say 5 years to define an American how many would say:
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Supports PR independence
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Speaks Spanish, not English
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Routinely complains about America.
These are about the exact opposite of what most people would think of when you conjure up an American. In fact, I’d say the one claiming that the people above are American are more like trans folk claiming biological reality is immaterial.
But to really test your point, imagine two U.S. citizens have a baby and live in say Israel. And that baby grows up and married someone who similarly was born to two U.S. citizens yet lived in Israel his or her whole life. That new couple had a baby.
Legally the grandchild could be a U.S. citizen. But the child is in no way American.
This is a bit of a toy example but it is trying to separate out “Americanness” from “legal status.”
zeke5123a
21hr ago
AO isn’t even the GOAT of his generation. Crosby is better. Neither come close to the Great One or Mario. Crosby might work his way past Mr Hockey and Orr. McDavid may pass Crosby in the end.
AO was great but pretty one dimensional with limited playoff success. He is more Jagr tier.
zeke5123a
23hr ago
And they have power in Canada. Puerto Rico is a conquered controlled land. It would be more akin to Ireland under British rule compared to modern French Canadian.
zeke5123a
1d ago
You claim that most normie Americans think of PR as American. Do you have any evidence for that claim? I highly doubt it.
zeke5123a
1d ago
Stop pretending not to understand what people mean. Puerto Rico legally is an American territory but it isn’t culturally America (and they’ve had many complaints about being not their own country). Super Bowl is culturally America. Bad Bunny was representing a defiance towards America notwithstanding that technically his “country” is controlled by the U.S.
zeke5123a
1d ago
Puerto Ricans aren’t culturally Americans. Hell they have their own teams in the Olympics if memory serves.
This clapback is confusing passport with culture.
zeke5123a
1d ago
This just seems like purposeful misreading of my comments. Yes Bad Bunny is technically an American citizen. But he isn’t American culturally. He sings in Spanish. He views America almost like a militant LATAM.
It isn’t my America (of course Bad Bunny thinks America is everything in the new world and Americans are being narcissistic to label themselves as the only Americans). It isn’t the America I grew up in.
And I’m supposed to be happy if he replaces my America with his vision because he says people can achieve their dreams?
zeke5123a
1d ago
It was defiantly anti assimilation and pro replacement. It is really hard to ignore the Straussian read here.
An economic union with people who at best are indifferent is one I’m not interested in especially when we don’t need the immigrants. I like America. I like Americana. I unapologetically like things like Walt Disney World, cheeseburgers, and the Fourth of July. I love our reverence for our founding fathers and considered the founding documents incredibly thought provoking re political economy (eg Federalist and Anti Federalist Papers should be read by every high school class). I always feel something when I walk through the Mall. If I’m asked to give it up, the question is why. I’m far from convinced peculiarly we are enriched by LATAM immigration and I am very convinced whatever pecuniary benefits are not worth the cost of giving up the culture I grew up with.
zeke5123a
3d ago
I don’t mostly pet ad hominems. I just find it beyond rich that you are gloating about people’s forecasting opinion when you were taken in by the most obviously bad forecast. Glass house and all.
In fact you blocked me for pointing out your failure of forecasting due to your worldview.
zeke5123a
3d ago
You fell head over heels for the obvious fake Selzer poll despite being tell you otherwise. Have you downgraded your forecasting ability?
zeke5123a
3d ago
I spend probably about 50 bucks on sports betting annually. It’s consumption for me (kind of a fun “try to beat the house” sorts thing). For me it’s consumption.
I do recognize it only exists because others can’t control themselves.
zeke5123a
4d ago
Yeah most presidents target parents as terrorists for going to local school board meetings.
zeke5123a
5d ago
I think many of your points can be rebutted. They are in essence treating the progressive option as neutral.
Take for example the politicization of certain administrative roles. Did you miss the first Trump term where those ‘apolitical’ roles were used to #resist. Was that not political? The departments were not apolitical to start with; Trump II is merely saying if they are going to be political might as well be our guys.
Or take ICE. It is deporting more people in Texas and Florida. The big difference is those states are working with the feds so you don’t need a lot of federal people there to enforce deportation. Not so in Minnesota. Is that fascist? Was Little Rock and the 101st fascist?
Re the weaponization of the justice department did we not just live through the Dems trying the leading opposition candidate on novel bogus charges? That is but one example. You also had under Obama the targeting of conservative NGOs.
Maybe you say this is just the “you too” fallacy. But I think the reality is that Trump recognizes he (and Republicans more broadly) being knifes to shootouts. Trump decided to finally bring a gun. Maybe that increases the odds of something spiraling out of control and leading to right fascism. But if he didn’t it would clearly lead to left fascism.
zeke5123a
5d ago
The Vox piece doesn’t surprise me. In the recent Pretti killing, it came out that Pretti previously got into a violent interaction with ICE where ICE acted professionally (if understated). Those interactions probably occurred hundreds of times daily. The media wants you to focus on the numerator of bad cop interactions while ignoring the denominator (the thousands of interactions with bad actors that LEO deals with excellently).
Is LEO misconduct a problem? Sure. But it pales in comparison to suspect misconduct. Vox wants you to focus on the former but not the latter by controlling the numerator and denominator.
zeke5123a
7d ago
And my 8 year will be a giant in 8 years. I think the whole debate is whether LLMs are slowing down on improvements (ie can you really simply extrapolate 2 more years)
zeke5123a
8d ago
That seems like a certain way to make sure your positions aren’t very high IQ for long.
zeke5123a
9d ago
I read the article. It’s somewhat interesting but the interesting question is what did prediction markets say. Most SCOTUS opinions are easily predicted (and frequently written about).
I’d expect an LLM to do better there compared to areas with less items written. In the example I was referencing, if an LLM could step back and try to understand the regulatory scheme, it would have understood its answer was counter to the scheme. Once you know that, you have to really study to make sure you aren’t missing something. But not sure it’s capable of that meta check.
As I mention below, bright line rules are easy to state but are over and under inclusive. Just because a standard has fuzziness doesn’t mean it’s worse than a bright line rule which isn’t fuzzy but doesn’t get at the nature of what people are asking.
I think there might be two tests I would use.
The vacation test: if you are abroad and a non government person asks “what are you” do you respond American or something else (eg Puerto Rican)
The second is if the U.S. was in a hotly contested war would you strongly take up its defense?
I think the combo of the two are helpful.
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