zeke5123a
5mo ago
It also seems like they all back off for a split second when a shot rings out, then two more shots are fired.
So there is some evidence to suggest self defense but the video is unclear and we should wait until better evidence.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
You can’t see the decedent’s arms or hands so you can’t tell what the decedent was doing.
It doesn’t mean the LEO had a justification but it also doesn’t mean they didn’t. It does mean that based on the current evidence it is indeterminate and we ought to wait for more evidence to emerge.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
If the decedent shot first, then shooting him in the back is very reasonable since there were agents in all directions. Lethal force need not be solely for protection of yourself but also for others.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
If the decedent first shot at LEO, then that isn’t “an adequate excuse” but fully justified.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
That still seems impossible to tell if he drew a weapon or not. It seems like all the agents back off prior to a first shot suggesting something but really impossible to be definitive. Hopefully there is a body cam.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
Tim Walz is a giant douche. He is also preventing any climb down even if he wanted it
zeke5123a
5mo ago
Amazing word choices in that article. Talk about an editorial in an alleged straight news piece
zeke5123a
5mo ago
It honestly depends. You are talking about rank and file. But most elites wouldn’t be embraced about having a military son who is an officer that goes up the ranks (eg colonel is still very prestigious). But a sergeant? That’s low class.
Most would probably see a local cop as kind of low status. But an FBI agent that moves up the ranks? That’s prestigious.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
Generally trying to censor social media largely but not exclusively thru NGO. There was the time Theirry (sp?) threatened Elon for interviewing Trump on X while Trump was running for president.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
Notably the Western European leaders actively picked a side in the internal American political contest. You can’t do that and then be shocked when your opponent disrespects you.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
The French are a dying cucked people. Why should anyone care what they say? They are to be pitied and an object lesson of what not to do; not a group to be modeled.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
There are many more Europeans that hate America than the inverse. Americans rightists generally feel bad for Europe.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
What a depressing article on red flag books. Talk about high on your own supply.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
Want to list the things the right has “pulled?”
Where I’m sitting they haven’t done close to enough.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
Umm…per Wiki the peace prize it is handed out by a Norwegian committee appointed by the Norwegian parliament.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
You seem to be missing the point that thy aren’t just protesting generally but doing so in ways to try to prevent ICE from doing their job. Your hypo is of Alice standing on a random corner.
Here Alice is following ICE and making noise for the express purpose of making it harder for ICE to conduct their legal duty of apprehending illegals / warning illegals so illegals can flee.
The activities are of a different nature from your hypo and caselaw.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
Those are easily distinguishable. Yes, if the anti ICE people went to the local ICE HQ and did those things, then it would clearly be protected speech.
However, if anti ICE follow ICE and try to alert illegals to I E presence to thwart ICE from apprehending illegal aliens, then the anti ICE protestors are now obstructing officers. The examples you gave are examples of people being obnoxious but had nothing to do with interfering with police work. So they prima facie don’t control.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
The problem isn’t wholly illegals. There are a whole group of people who on the merits are illegal but on procedure are here temporarily until their status is adjudicated. Then there are problems like the Somalis who are here legally but are just a drain. We need to cut off welfare without running afoul of the 14th.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
Nothing yet. The trick will be to nail them on fraud, de naturalize , and then deport.
zeke5123a
5mo ago
I doubt they make money re collection agencies. The collection agency isn’t buying the debt at face (otherwise there is no profit in it for the collection agency and the agency is taking on collection risk).
Credit card companies make money on the people who keep paying small amounts — enough that it doesn’t go to collection but enough where the interest rates gobble up a bunch of money.
You can’t see the hands or arms of the decedent. It looks either good nor bad. More facts are required.
Even if LEO did something bad, the benefits of removing thousands of illegal immigrants is worth it. Probably saves American lives in the aggregate.
LEO are under immense stress. Listen to the start of the video. Multiply that day by day. These protestors are nuts.
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