zeke5123a
10hr ago
I don’t think you can find more than five examples of things ICE has done outside of immigration enforcement when the thing wasn’t clearly incidental to enforcement (eg the attempted enforcement in the Good situation where Good was interfering with ICE activity)
zeke5123a
15hr ago
First, you are being an ass. I didn’t ask you to mod for an opinion I disliked. I’m pointing out the other poster made an inflammatory factual claim that is obviously false but you won’t do shit about it.
Second, you stated it would be reasonable to mod if the other poster claimed ICE was killing a bunch of people. Well, if I made that claim and then said “when I use the word kill, I mean arrest” you would rightfully see that as fucking bullshit.
Here, there is settled definition of the word kidnap. You have google. Read it. It is the unlawful taking of a person. There is zero evidence ICE is routinely kidnapping people. The other poster made a factually absurd claim with zero evidence and your defense of it is “the other poster gets to define commonly used words to mean something opposite to their common usage without saying he or her are doing such a thing.”
That would be deadly to the site. It is principled to argue against it.
zeke5123a
16hr ago
I think the larger point here is this is happening numerous times a day, day in and day out.
You play this out a thousand times something will go sideways in an encounter. This was that encounter.
The leftist harassing ICE is stochastic hoping for a viral moment.
zeke5123a
16hr ago
Nonsense. ICE wasn’t barricading a road. The decedent was barricading the road. Again ICE wasn’t the one who randomly grabbed this woman. She went out of her way to find ICE and get in ICE’s way.
zeke5123a
16hr ago
Kidnapping suggests illegal. Where is the illegality? Now you are going to say that lefties can define words to mean other than commonly defined terms.
You mod for much less absurd things.
zeke5123a
17hr ago
It isn’t just absence is taken for granted but the left don’t really have a model for why different jdx have different levels of wealth outside of colonialism/ racism which doesn’t really explain much after examination.
So the right believes culture / genes matter. The left doesn’t.
zeke5123a
17hr ago
Except that isn’t what the other poster did. The poster said we are so worried about tyranny that we don’t worry about anarchy enough and anarchy is worse than tyranny.
That is not what you ascribed to the other poster.
This reminds me of Peterson’s complaint that we have a lot of antibodies for when the right goes too far but none for when the left goes too far.
zeke5123a
18hr ago
But how is “they are kidnapping us” not an inflammatory claim without sufficient evidence?
zeke5123a
19hr ago
How can you respond to this comment without modding it? The other poster is claiming without any evidence that ICE is kidnapping presumably Americans. That’s an extraordinary explosive claim wi the zero evidence.
zeke5123a
20hr ago
Which basically amounts to “red tribe can never enforce one of their key goals of reducing immigration.” And if that’s the case, why should red tribe be in a political alliance with the blue tribe?
zeke5123a
20hr ago
Sure. I think that’s the thing that pisses off a lot of reds. There was a tepid responses to months of serious rioting and looting.
Then maximal responses to the one red coded riot.
zeke5123a
20hr ago
You seem to think ICE is going to where the libs are. In contrast, the libs are going to where the ICE are.
zeke5123a
1d ago
It creates asymmetry whereby red states are subject to blue immigration belief when blue is in power but blue states are not subject to red immigration belief when red is in power.
zeke5123a
1d ago
I support rioters being shot. Thought they should’ve with BLM. Same with J6.
Of course, if Congress was not illegitimately closed for a bad cold, J6 doesn’t happen.
zeke5123a
1d ago
There is pretty much zero evidence that they are doing anything but getting rid of illegals.
zeke5123a
1d ago
If they are out of a group that coordinates interfering with the enforcement of law, I wonder if you can get RICO charges against the whole group and then felony murder?
Fair point but Spanish and not Anglo world.
Interestingly people like Pinochet don’t command near the cultural respect as say Fidel despite Pinochet leaving Chile a lot better off compared to Fidel in Cuba.
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