zeke5123a
11hr ago
Sure but how do I make sure I don’t pay for them? How do I ensure my tax dollars don’t pay for them (money is famously fungible)? How do I ensure that when another party comes to power they don’t just make them all citizens that can vote who will now swear everlasting fealty to the party that has been giving them tuna nonstop!
How do I ensure when blue states go bankrupt I don’t have to bail them out?
zeke5123a
11hr ago
It’s more complicated than that. First, it’s common to plea down form more serious charges to lesser charges, especially for first offenses. Second some jdx have a policy of going easy on illegals for this precise purpose.
zeke5123a
21hr ago
Well whistles aren’t just intended to be annoying (though imagine having to work with whistles like that all the time). They are intended to warn illegals of your presence. It isnt just theatre.
zeke5123a
1d ago
This is assuming that the only way illegals are getting money is via working illegally. There are tons of NGOs that will gladly help.
zeke5123a
1d ago
There were clips going around from his discussion with Rand Paul. If you listened to the entire conversation and not just the clips, you’d understand that he is saying it’s a difficult issue. For example, he doesn’t like them being masked up (what was clipped) but he gets the legitimate fear of them being doxxed and targeted. He was hoping they could come up with a compromise etc.
zeke5123a
1d ago
And honestly that was in part why there was a massive reaction to it. It differed from normal.
zeke5123a
1d ago
Biden’s campaign wasn’t strongly connected with student loan forgiveness. Trump’s was with immigration.
zeke5123a
2d ago
Why don’t you concede? Are you arguing factually I am wrong? Or are you arguing categorically a turn around at the border is the same thing?
Also W was much more immigrant friendly with much fewer illegals to deal with (with states that weren’t as ideologically opposed to the feds).
I put most of the blame for the killings on the imbeciles who are trying to thwart ICE from doing their legal job.
zeke5123a
2d ago
I’ve become convinced that libertarianism works but not for all societies and especially not for democracies with open borders.
zeke5123a
2d ago
Interesting but how does that survive anti commandeering? You would need to tie things like federal spending grants but that becomes tricky where the official policy is “help ICE” but you allow deviation from policy.
zeke5123a
2d ago
How about “ICE is under siege so violent events are more likely to happen?”
zeke5123a
2d ago
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Your basic facts are wrong. Turnarounds aren’t the same as deporting. Obama didn’t actually deport people in meaningful numbers where deportations mean people living in the U.S. illegally.
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Blue states weren’t going to obstruct Obama in the same way if he tried to remove illegals living in the States.
So your premises are wrong. I do think there is a better way of doing this though — cut off funding to illegals, e verify, and offer free ticket + cash to leave
zeke5123a
2d ago
Comparing Biden ICE is missing the point — Biden’s ICE could be “professional” since blue states weren’t actively trying to resist the feds.
zeke5123a
2d ago
I don’t know how you can tell that. Looks like trying to see a fumble in a scrum.
zeke5123a
2d ago
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You can’t see the hands or arms of the decedent. It looks either good nor bad. More facts are required.
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Even if LEO did something bad, the benefits of removing thousands of illegal immigrants is worth it. Probably saves American lives in the aggregate.
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LEO are under immense stress. Listen to the start of the video. Multiply that day by day. These protestors are nuts.
zeke5123a
2d ago
It also seems like they all back off for a split second when a shot rings out, then two more shots are fired.
So there is some evidence to suggest self defense but the video is unclear and we should wait until better evidence.
zeke5123a
2d ago
You can’t see the decedent’s arms or hands so you can’t tell what the decedent was doing.
It doesn’t mean the LEO had a justification but it also doesn’t mean they didn’t. It does mean that based on the current evidence it is indeterminate and we ought to wait for more evidence to emerge.
zeke5123a
2d ago
If the decedent shot first, then shooting him in the back is very reasonable since there were agents in all directions. Lethal force need not be solely for protection of yourself but also for others.
Does he? He is basically an R these days.
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