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This. The problem here is Tim Walz.

There were clips going around from his discussion with Rand Paul. If you listened to the entire conversation and not just the clips, you’d understand that he is saying it’s a difficult issue. For example, he doesn’t like them being masked up (what was clipped) but he gets the legitimate fear of them being doxxed and targeted. He was hoping they could come up with a compromise etc.

And honestly that was in part why there was a massive reaction to it. It differed from normal.

Biden’s campaign wasn’t strongly connected with student loan forgiveness. Trump’s was with immigration.

Why don’t you concede? Are you arguing factually I am wrong? Or are you arguing categorically a turn around at the border is the same thing?

Also W was much more immigrant friendly with much fewer illegals to deal with (with states that weren’t as ideologically opposed to the feds).

I put most of the blame for the killings on the imbeciles who are trying to thwart ICE from doing their legal job.

I’ve become convinced that libertarianism works but not for all societies and especially not for democracies with open borders.

Interesting but how does that survive anti commandeering? You would need to tie things like federal spending grants but that becomes tricky where the official policy is “help ICE” but you allow deviation from policy.

How about “ICE is under siege so violent events are more likely to happen?”

  1. Your basic facts are wrong. Turnarounds aren’t the same as deporting. Obama didn’t actually deport people in meaningful numbers where deportations mean people living in the U.S. illegally.

  2. Blue states weren’t going to obstruct Obama in the same way if he tried to remove illegals living in the States.

So your premises are wrong. I do think there is a better way of doing this though — cut off funding to illegals, e verify, and offer free ticket + cash to leave

Comparing Biden ICE is missing the point — Biden’s ICE could be “professional” since blue states weren’t actively trying to resist the feds.

I don’t know how you can tell that. Looks like trying to see a fumble in a scrum.

  1. You can’t see the hands or arms of the decedent. It looks either good nor bad. More facts are required.

  2. Even if LEO did something bad, the benefits of removing thousands of illegal immigrants is worth it. Probably saves American lives in the aggregate.

  3. LEO are under immense stress. Listen to the start of the video. Multiply that day by day. These protestors are nuts.

I hope there is body cam footage. Should be instructive.

It also seems like they all back off for a split second when a shot rings out, then two more shots are fired.

So there is some evidence to suggest self defense but the video is unclear and we should wait until better evidence.

Good stuff. Honestly hope there is body cam footage. Would help a lot.

You can’t see the decedent’s arms or hands so you can’t tell what the decedent was doing.

It doesn’t mean the LEO had a justification but it also doesn’t mean they didn’t. It does mean that based on the current evidence it is indeterminate and we ought to wait for more evidence to emerge.

If the decedent shot first, then shooting him in the back is very reasonable since there were agents in all directions. Lethal force need not be solely for protection of yourself but also for others.

If the decedent first shot at LEO, then that isn’t “an adequate excuse” but fully justified.

That still seems impossible to tell if he drew a weapon or not. It seems like all the agents back off prior to a first shot suggesting something but really impossible to be definitive. Hopefully there is a body cam.

Tim Walz is a giant douche. He is also preventing any climb down even if he wanted it

Amazing word choices in that article. Talk about an editorial in an alleged straight news piece

It honestly depends. You are talking about rank and file. But most elites wouldn’t be embraced about having a military son who is an officer that goes up the ranks (eg colonel is still very prestigious). But a sergeant? That’s low class.

Most would probably see a local cop as kind of low status. But an FBI agent that moves up the ranks? That’s prestigious.

Generally trying to censor social media largely but not exclusively thru NGO. There was the time Theirry (sp?) threatened Elon for interviewing Trump on X while Trump was running for president.

Notably the Western European leaders actively picked a side in the internal American political contest. You can’t do that and then be shocked when your opponent disrespects you.

The French are a dying cucked people. Why should anyone care what they say? They are to be pitied and an object lesson of what not to do; not a group to be modeled.