TitaniumButterfly
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I don't really see much to engage with here; your assertions are packaged in such a way as to discourage careful consideration and it would probably be helpful for you to clearly articulate a thesis.
For example,
We have seen deliberate attempts to smudge together all vaccines into one monolithic product and doctrine.
Just don't know what to make of this. That sounds kinda like something I could believe, but it's vague enough that I can't exactly go find out more or argue, can I? Except to say that I'm not sure I have seen that, no. Perhaps someone will demonstrate it at some point, in which case I'll likely adopt the position and also be upset about the matter.
Also you seem to be a single-issue poster which indicates crankery in general. Leaves me less interested in investing in understanding whatever it is you're trying to say.
TitaniumButterfly
17d ago
Thanks, TIL
TitaniumButterfly
23d ago
I think it arose because Capital demanded that it arise.
TitaniumButterfly
23d ago
I'd rather have seen a section from Aristophanes' Assemblywomen if we were doing this.
TitaniumButterfly
24d ago
Solid point and I accept it, though in this case my reasoning is more that "Once those problems are solved we'll be back in a position to deal with the others." It's a sort of faith in my heritage.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
And so we're back around to the subject of the OP.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
Honestly never heard of him. But he has short stories which are enticing as a sample. Really I'd like more good apostolic Christian sci fi.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
The way I remember it, having been there and very leftist at the time, was a lot of the people around me saying we must vote for Obama because he is black and it's time to stop electing white men; that regardless of how one feels about him personally, the importance of electing a black man is paramount for other reasons.
If a primary movement has racial under and in this case overtones, it's not a surprise that the backlash does as well.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
What word would you like me to use to describe someone who believes that politicians are importing brown people to replace the white race, and all the attendant beliefs that normally swirl around that one?
Nationalist
What word would you like me to describe someone who thinks that Trump should have power to do X, Y and Z regardless of their legality without resorting to what you see as slurs?
Authoritarian nationalist
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
Banned one hour for use of emojis.
I'm emoji-prone myself but think this is probably a correct standard for this site. Did it become official at some point?
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
Just for clarification, I'm reading this as 'doesn't intend to impose costs...'
Yeah, I think that's probably true. Happens all the time, but not with that conscious intent.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
For this reason women are also responsible for the vast majority of accidents. They're generally-worse drivers. Men just happen to be specifically worse in the one category which also generates the highest-value damage.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
Not interested in engaging here but I did want to compliment your excellent use of 'farrago.'
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
There's a goldilocks zone between "obnoxiously poisoned by leftism" and "Randian libertarian blowhard" in SciFi.
...I haven't exactly found it yet, but it has to be there.
Heinlein's cocktail of beliefs is at least bizarre enough to be more entertaining than irritating.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
Again I'd like to point out that the author's proposal is to simply repeal antidiscrimination laws pertaining to sex, which is a much more reasonable objective than dispensing with smartphones, the relevance of which I can't figure out regardless.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
I don't recognize the latter name so couldn't say. But again there's a lot of Branson I didn't read so I wouldn't be shocked if I missed or just forgot about the age of consent angle, which... is interesting to think about, I guess, but never productive to discuss ime. So I'd have pretty much screened it out anyway.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
Oh, was that Julius Branson of Powerology fame? I didn't associate age of consent stuff with him but then I didn't read most of what he wrote. He did show up on a mutual discord server for a while though.
I am confused whether she thinks merit is a separate quality from masculinity.
She thinks they're highly-correlated in practice, in traditionally-male fields.
E.g. could you have lots of extremely talented women who get a job on merit but then, by their fundamentally feminine traits and preferences, ruin the workplace nonetheless?
No, because part of 'merit' here is 'not acting in typically-feminine ways which ruin the workplace.'
Or are merit and maleness the same thing to her, in which case you could safely allow a whole bunch of very 'male'-leaning women like her into a workplace, as long as you vetted them carefully?
No, not the same thing, but in that case you wouldn't actually need to vet them very carefully. It would simply become the de facto understanding that the workplaces will operate along masculine lines, as they used to when women started entering the workforce. Women would understand this and either self-select out or at least understand that they are to comply with such standards of behavior or face disciplinary action.
I think in the latter scenario she can probably unhypocritically keep her job, it's just she'll also have to adopt a notion of merit that is divorced from ability to directly perform a job function, and is instead all about degree of fit to a male workplace culture.
No. Implicit in her take is that male workplace culture is itself more meritorious and will naturally outcompete female workplace culture.
So that's her take as I understand it.
Personally I'm not convinced. I don't think it's so easy to just 'treat women like men'. We're biologically hardwired to treat women differently and it's upsetting to almost everyone when women are held to male standards.
As a business owner myself, I prefer to assign female employees to accounts that I expect will go poorly. This is because if I send a man and things go poorly we're fired. If I send a woman and things go poorly "We love her, she's great" and "She works so hard" and "Yeah she's making steady progress, we'll get you more funding." Great stuff as a business owner. You can be sure that even if the regulations were dropped I'd keep hiring women!
It does cause me to reflect upon my own hiring standards. From my perspective the only way for a business, such as the one I describe taking advantage of above, to protect itself would be to demand that I send a man instead of a woman in the first place. Admitting a woman to the position at all is implicitly admitting several potential time-bombs. Presumably this works back around to implying that the value of female labor is inherently somewhat lower even with most else being equal. Interesting.
Anyway the author makes a great moderate case and I'd be happy to see us moving toward her policy proposals.
I'm in favor of the move, all things considered.
Star Trek is not a human future. It's a fictional scenario constructed to serve as the vehicle for the political assertions of people laboring under any number of ridiculous misapprehensions about human nature. Humans would have to be substantially modified in all sorts of ways to make that work, and I think we'd lose much of what I value about humans in the process.
Dune looks like a human future full of people living human lives. Most of the 'bad' things in the books are straightforwardly contrived for plot purposes. I think Dune would be a good future. Caladan seems nice. And I don't think most of the Landsraad would actually put up with the Harkonnens except for, again, contrived Imperial support.
But, in such cases, the question one ought to ask is what ruler one is even using to measure 'good' and 'bad'. And if it turns out one's answer is 'the social consensus prevalent when I was young' one is due to have a bad time in short order.
What actually matters to you in the future? What patterns are worthy of preservation and propagation?
Yeah, but she nowhere gives a solution to the problem. How to prevent a feminised society?
Yes she does, right here:
"Feminization is not an organic result of women outcompeting men. It is an artificial result of social engineering, and if we take our thumb off the scale it will collapse within a generation."
She then goes into some specifics such as getting rid of anti-discrimination laws.
TBH I don't think you read the article; or if you did it was apparently with so much bias that you may as well not have. This is the straightforward answer to the question which your entire blustering performance has revolved around her not answering, thus allowing you to fill in your own preferred boogeyman and cantilever your eye-rolling dismissals out to infinity.
The worst part, to me, is that this would work for you, too, almost anywhere else. But not here, in one of the last remaining places where male modes of discourse are allowed exercise. Hence the downvotes.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
What is JB?
As the GMC itself noted 7 of the 9 doctors convicted of gross negligence manslaughter since 2004 were BAME. BAME doctors are referred for misconduct at more than double the rate of white doctors. International medical graduates are referred at more than 2.5 times the rate. (The GMC’s solution, in true current year fashion, was to try to fix the disproportionality, which could only be due to racism, not to investigate the cause).
In a comparable situation in another industry, it was once pointed out to me that such disproportionality was after everyone in question had already bent over backwards to avoid coming down on the non-whites.
It wasn't that they were ~2.5 times more likely to cause major problems; it was that they were so much more likely to cause problems so bad that they couldn't be swept under the rug.
I came to this same conclusion and it was a real doompill for me.
Really? I felt a tremendous amount of relief. To me it seemed like everything was just getting worse and worse with no end in sight and I had no idea why. When I realized that, oh, we're just insane when it comes to women and race and fixing that will fix pretty much everything else, it was like the horizon began to lighten in the East.
To doompill about this would require me to think that egalitarianism had triumphed in ridding the world of people who can perceive the truth. But it hasn't! Racism and sexism are both alive and well, thank God, and will soon be coming to the rescue of benighted Western Civilization.
The problem in the meantime is that so many positions of consequence are held by people who can't or won't notice what's happened.
This new generation is so strangely split. Young men radical reactionaries; young women radical... uh, I don't even know what to call them. Hateful, shrewish, self-defacing cat-ladies? No idea how this is going to play out politically but it's going to be fascinating, and in the long run I think women will ultimately buckle and follow the lead of men back to a social model which actually works.
TitaniumButterfly
25d ago
it's hypocrisy if you say "the important professions, including journalism, have been taken over by women and this is bad for society" while holding senior positions in journalism as a woman. It's the alcoholic surgeon: "drinking is bad for you, you should give it up" "but you show up for work drunk every day!" "yeah well do as I say, not as I do".
Your "if" is doing all the work here and deserves no credit. That's not what the author's saying.
Let me break this down for you:
According to her there are (most) women, who do not fit into such organizations naturally and will disrupt and subvert them if too many join. There are also other (few) women who fit naturally into such organizations and create little to no 'gender-drag' regardless of how many join.
She's in favor of repealing the massively-pro-female regulations, which she thinks will allow many of the latter sort to join, which is good, and almost none of the former sort, which is also good, resulting in healthier organizations staffed by both the men and the women who belong there.
She wants more of the second type of woman in the institutions, not fewer. So her being part of such an institution is in keeping with her ethos.
That's just normies being bad at decoupling.
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