Stellula
9hr ago
I would imagine so? This is a pretty unambiguous teaching which is routinely affirmed by their leadership.
Stellula
9hr ago
Jesus and Paul both believed that God was The Universal Prime Mover, that is: there is nothing before God. He set the universe in motion. Mormons do not believe this, but rather that God was a human that lived in an existing universe, and through good works ascended to God status.
No. Mormons are substantially less Christian that Christians are Jewish.
The mormons believe that God was once a man who then became a God, and their version of enlightenment/ascendance/heaven is that they will themselves become God. Christians and Jews believe in the same God. Mormons do not believe in the same God as Christians, Jews, or Muslims.
Here are some mormon redditors trying to figure out how to square this, btw.
I know there are quite a few mormons who post here. Feel free to just ignore all this, btw. I love a good debate about religion, but I love you guys more, and don't want it to come at your expense, or to feel like people are kicking you while you're down - what happened yesterday was horrific.
Stellula
1d ago
American liberals do not understand that the US has by far the most permissive immigration policy in the developed world.
Stellula
2d ago
My point is to illustrate how deceptive reporting is on these things. My choice of “coinbase app on my phone” was a deliberate choice for the exact reason you are stating.
Stellula
2d ago
a loaded handgun, a hunting knife, and $3000 in cash.
Iowa is a constitutional carry state.
What percentage of men have hunting knives in their car? 100%? I've had some sort of knife on my person at all times where it was legal and practical since I was like 12 years old. A pocket knife is as much a part of my pants as my wallet is.
$3000 cash? Who cares?
If you pulled me over and tried to write this story about me it would be like: "man found with a loaded handgun (normal where I live), multiple tactical knives (a leatherman in my pocket, and the one that fell between the seats and I never found), spotting equipment (binoculars I keep in the glovebox for monitoring the situation), and hundreds of thousands of dollars of untraceable cryptocurrency (my coinbase account viewer on my phone).
I hate that this is highlighted on these stories.
The story here is: illegal immigrant given job as head of DMPS. Apparently the weapons charge he had was bad enough that he was given a deportation order by the Biden administration in 2024. Maybe that was a legit gun charge?
"Had gun in car" is a pointless non-fact.
Stellula
5d ago
I’m surprised at the controversy.
It seems like this was a tactical choice. I think this also reflects exactly in how I see Buttigieg, as the absolute stereotype of the political striver.
It’s clearly not a good choice to run a gay man in 2024, especially when the effective ad from Trump they keep talking about is “I’m with you, she’s with they/them”. Pete does not deserve the presidency for running through the gauntlet correctly. It’s not a crown. People actually have to vote for him.
Stellula
7d ago
Saint Peter, the Protestant!
I obviously like my orthobros, but this is a major cope. Why did none of the bishops oppose the gospel of Mathew during the councils assembling the Bible? Why did they ask the pope for his blessing (in the colloquial sense) over their work?
By the 4th century, it was already established that the Pope had a leadership role different than the other bishops. It makes sense that at some point (1000 years after the church was founded and after it had become a major global power) that there would be people who would claim leadership of it, but for geopolitical reasons.
Again, I like the orthodox bros. They are cool, and I pray almost daily for reunification, but this claim is pretty ridiculous on its face. Was Jesus a Protestant too?
Stellula
8d ago
Well yes Catholics would say that we have access to more, we have the Bible, but also we have the Church which was founded by Christ himself.
The claim that Protestants worship the Bible is based on the idea that they seem to hold the words in the book at a higher relevance than what they actually say, or what Jesus actually did or said.
(Snark snark)
Stellula
8d ago
I'm sure anybody with time can run circles around me going toe to toe about Bible translations.
But this is kindof the difference between Catholics and Protestants. We don't worship a book, we're trying to live good, Christian lives. While Protestants will get obsessive about bible translations, Catholics get more obsessive about the meaning implied.
That all said, I think the broad strokes of the reformation and the early church are pretty obvious. Ironically, it's access to information (the internet) which will likely end Luther's work.
Martin Luther claimed that the church was intentionally making the bible difficult for local people to read in their own language. The purpose of this lie was so that he could create his own "interpretation".
Luther did not believe in free will. One "fix" he added to the bible was in Romans 3:28.
“So we hold that a man is justified without the works of the law, by faith alone.”
The previously accepted translation was:
“For we hold that a man is justified by faith without the works of the law.”
Stellula
8d ago
The schism maintained the concept of a Church.
The reformation basically threw out 1500 years of philosophy in favor of "vibes" and "sola scriptura" (which is the idea that all of Christian philosophy can be derived from The Bible itself and idea which is on it's face stupid due to the fact that it was only assembled 400 years after the Church was founded).
EOs and Catholics are bros. There's a reason why you see the Ecumenical Patriarch and The Pope together so frequently.
Stellula
8d ago
my local Unitarian church
Can I be annoying Catholic for a second? Here's the general timeline of Christianity.
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Christ upon death, entrusts Saint Peter with the formation of a church.
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This church exists for about 400 years, doing philosophical work, being murdered by romans, and assembling the gospels
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400 years into it, they start calling some councils so that they can assemble a book which encompasses and explains their theology.
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They assemble the bible
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One thousand years later, and one thousand and five hundred years after Christ establishes a Church on Earth, a retarded autist named Martin Luther decides that he doesn't like the Church that Christ founded, and wants to start his own, with his own [stupid] philosophical beliefs at the center. Marty creates a lie about bible translations so that he can insert his own idea by "translating" the bible into German.
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This effects of this are...negative. 500 years after this, we have the things you experienced.
tl;dr - you didn't go to a Church. You went to a weird narcissism cult that is wearing Church as a costume.
If you want to go to a Church, then go to a Church.
Stellula
9d ago
credulous HR departments with no technical knowledge
This is exactly right. Just wanted to highlight the best part of your post.
The US is not an economic zone.
While the implementation is cruel (giving people out of the country essentially 24 hours to return), this had to happen.
The 2008 housing collapse could arguably be blamed on the appraisers. They were going along with the scam and giving 20% annual appreciation to houses, while the rating agencies were fudging the quality of the debt being sold. People were supposed to be watching each other, but they weren't and everybody was getting rich.
In US tech jobs, the blame lies on the HR departments. The obvious fake resumes the obvious nepotism and discrimination between Indian hires, etc.
Everybody who works in this industry has seen how this scam functions. You get one Indian in a position of power in your company, and shortly thereafter, the entire company is Indian, and the quality of work has dropped to 0. HR doesn't understand because the resumes claimed that these were all "high quality" employees with tons of certifications (fake) degrees (fake) and experience (fake).
Yes this benefited many Indians, benefitted India, and may have benefitted some American companies, but it was all at the detriment of middle class Americans.
Again, we are not an economic zone. The H1B system was blatantly abused, specifically by Indians, and now it's ending. Good.
(Although my guess is that this get's reversed over the weekend, I'm still going to enjoy the few more hours where it's real)
Charlie’s dead, man. I’ll be outside. Good luck.
While yes I generally agree with this, and yes this is all against my principles…
…the opponents of western liberal democracy have resorted to simply executing people. Those not actively involved in the execution have demonstrated that they will happily burn our cities when they don’t get their way.
My sense is that the conservatives don’t WANT any of this.
Stellula
13d ago
What if his defense lawyer claims that it was online right wing radicalization that caused him to do it though?
Stellula
14d ago
Is there something you're asking here which I'm missing? Trump has been pretty explicit that he wants to deport them back to their home countries.
Would you extend this grace to anybody murdering people who look Mexican for being Mexican?
"Well yeah of course, of course we condemn murder...but what did these Mexicans expect? They maybe have been here illegally. Even if they weren't they kindof looked like some people who are!"
The things Destiny, Ilhan, etc. are saying are reprehensible.
https://x.com/jackunheard/status/1967667070344237517
Are Ilhan Omar or Medhi Hasan prominent members of the democratic party? What about Destiny? Hasan Piker? Are they not prominent left wing thought leaders? Destiny was just on Piers Morgan, for instance.
Stellula
14d ago
Those should be the examples of right wing violence that the left makes the right eat.
I wonder why these aren’t more commonly talked about?
Do you remember if any prominent right wing figures said that the victims deserved it? There are obviously the people saying that about Kirk, and there have also been semi notable people saying that about Ashley Babbitt, and the victims of the attempted Trump assassination.
Something that's getting frustrating to me around the discussion of Charlie Kirk's assassination (man it feels weird to say that) is that conservatives are being told to eat the Paul Pelosi attack as a right wing thing.
But the attacker (David Depape), was, if he was even capable of holding any sort of political position at all, not even remotely right wing, at least not in any way that any right winger would identify as a bedfellow.
The guy lived in a bus in Berkley, CA doing drugs in a polyamorous sex cult. He clearly went completely insane, then attacked Paul Pelosi. This is the type of thing that conservatives are trying to stop. This event is neutral at best, and more realistically just left-wing cities eating themselves. The opening paragraph from a sfchronicle article about his daughter is one of the craziest I've ever seen:
Last year, as her father was making national news for allegedly bludgeoning then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband with a hammer, Inti Gonzalez was sleeping in a drafty garage. Her mother, a prominent Bay Area nudism activist, was in prison for attempted child abduction.
I'm also getting sick of hearing that the right wing is supposed to eat January 6th. We've had every single right wing politician "disavowing" this for the last 5 years, despite the fact that the only person killed on this day was a right wing woman.
January 6th was one day of protesting which followed months of protesting by left wingers.
Generally my frustration is this idea that right wing and left wing politics and expressions of those politics are equals, or just different poles of an ideology. They're not. One of my favorite articles: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/ expands on what I mean.
(No the woke won't debate you, here's why - required reading around here imo)
These two ideologies, western liberal democracy, which the conservatives are still, maybe stupidly, trying to work inside of, and some bastard form of revolutionary marxism, are not two sides fighting over territory. There's no compromise where we meet in the middle. It's winner take all - either we remain a western liberal democracy, or we don't.
I think people are waking up to this, which is good. Sam Hyde's video today about this was pretty good: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_czBvLB-DwY (watch the first 5 minutes at least, please. It's good.)
JD's video was also really good (a slightly normie version of the same message): https://youtube.com/watch?v=ngofqx9EfcM
I, luckily, have no idea what your first sentence is talking about. Could you expand on this?
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