2D3D
3hr ago
Isn't this just status games? In the workplace continued status communication by polite engagement is necessary for subsequent cooperative potential. Its just not worth it to change an existing dynamic. Ideal solution is to flag oneself as unimportantly heterodox in advance. You know Im not the same as you but I dont care enough to change your mind so dont bother trying to change mine, so lets talk normie shit like baseball or weather where fundamental value flash isn't axiomatic to our functional dynamic.
Let it rip for nonrepeated games though. At house parties I have great fun openly stating my maximalist positions when interrogated because I don't care about my reputation among oneoffs. They can bitch to the host later about the evil nazi that somehow entered the party but thats the hosts fault for inviting me in the first place if he knew I'd accept leaving my cave for a meatspace rando sorting hat ceremony.
2D3D
3hr ago
You definitely mean east asians (culturally) when you state the above as asians. The personal is gauche and embarrassing to asians, and consequently the personal is simply unimportant to others. Me communicating the unimportance of my life to you is an expectation that you'll reciprocate and not try to impose the supposed importance of your life onto me. Sinic small talk of any import will be on topics of casual depth, like food or gaming strat or makeup tips or workout tips. No sinic ever wants to hear anything about your dating mishaps or family drama.
To a lesser extent this means that emotionally in-tune East Asians are inevitably westernized to some degree and are insufferably narcissistic to normie sinic eyes. Saying you have trauma doesn't make you more sympathetic to me, it makes you an uncomfortable oversharer trying to get mental expenditure from me that I simply cannot provide.
This changes when doors are closed and alcohol is involved. What happens in the ktv stays in the ktv.
2D3D
3hr ago
I think theres a self selection mechanism going on where people who are aware that they have rope to hang around themselves know better than to be Chotinered. Those who are too stupid to realize they are entrappable don't show up. It is entirely possible that these people being interviewed aren't aware of their reputational flameout during the interview with ostensibly friendly New Yorker and then are blindsided that people think they're coming across as retarded once the piece is published. No how can you think I'm wrong can't you see the strength of my conviction?
2D3D
11hr ago
The geographic setting might have been part of it. Could have also resulted in a snowball where one initial batch of highly forwarded "bro what the fuck is this" triggers an interest cascade and grok just starts inserting white farm murders to every african query on twitter because engagement farming is its reward mechanism.
That would also explain the hitler praising or whatever other bullshit Musk was accused of trainng grok to do which I also never saw. My absolute lack of social media (sans perhaps this forum) is once again saving me.
2D3D
19hr ago
I was using grok ALOT just to stress test it so yes I was doing it within 8 hours of news publications.
But you raise a good point about twitter reply. I never got that.
I still maintain I never got any white farmer murder stuff on grok itself. If its a twitter reply thing it invites speculation about recursive feedback loop.
2D3D
20hr ago
I can accept that were it not for my repeated failures to get grok to try and repeat the story or shades of it with any indirect prompt. I mean I really tried. I said things like "whats the crime situation in South Africa" and I got really anodyne crime stats about joburg and pretoria. I asked about white emigration and I got answers about the attractiveness of Australia and UK for afrikaners. At no point did I get a five alarm fire about the white farmer crimes.
I can accept that I maybe never got it due to some arcane blocks I may have put on my own metausage, but I don't think I was that smart or careless. I fundamentally think that it was a journo trying to gotcha, screaming "MUSK IS A NAZI TRYING TO MAKE WHITE PEOPLE VICTIMS" and then the story gets repeated across the journo sphere. Everyone assumed they weren't getting grok to repeat apartheid adjacent narratives and concluded the absence was proof of a coverup. Journalism 101
2D3D
1d ago
Im just being facetiously churlish toward one of the more prominent Names in this antiprogressive wonkspace, I'm not autistically invested enough to either remember or trawl through the deep lore. All I remember is something about Tracingwoodgrain starting an anti-motte subreddit back before this forum self exiled fully and that subreddit had really some great posts interspersed with really intense egotripping personal drama that sometimes bled out to this refuge here. I don't know the specifics of why I mentally flag rationalwiki drama as adjacent but my gut says it is and I updoot my own gut over faggy shit like "research" or "diligence".
2D3D
1d ago
Arab wikipedia is fucking WILD. Though supposedly the top contender is Serbian wikipedia for ultranationalist eevisionism.
Having said that I personally found Rationalwiki to be continuously teetering on the edge of progressive fracturing, like it was the wikipedia equivalent of the the Judean Peoples Front. Fighting an internal battle for legitimacy among warring progressives and deeply despising lesswrong turbotards. One day I'll actually go investigate what actually happened with lesswrong or whatever that made tracingwoodgrain persona non grata here.
Wait did I just beetlejuice something? Why am I suddenly filled with immense fear that I have summoned candlej-
2D3D
1d ago
Is it definitively established that Grok was pushing white genocide theories to everyone? I tried to get it to repeat the theory to me but I never got it. I strongly suspect journos were disingenuously framing grok for gotcha moments or just too stupid to realize they were seeding the ground for grok to parrot whatever the journos wanted. As always, journalist delenda est.
2D3D
1d ago
The best result for grokapedia (btw fuck musk for both ruining grokking as a verb and making his pet ai sound like a rejected flintstones villain) would be to pastebin wikipedia wholesale and add a regex replacer trained on conservapedia for semantic weights. All the (shit) factual accuracy with all the moral softframing purged and replaced with awesome Phyllis Schlafly schizoposting. It wont be any more accurate but it'll be way better than the captured wiki trannyjanny circlejerk.
2D3D
3d ago
The weight of evidence for 'child abusers' is the single instance of them hitting a child, with repeated proof furthering the original case. Followup apology vids of 'its just context bro' while the child actually has bruises visible don't help. When the case looks bad enough it requires the aggrieved party to outright state that there was no harm performed, and that is why children and pets - not animals as a whole specifically pets present within an asymmetric power dynamic - are given a level of public sympathy not available to other interaction scenarios.
It is necessary to highlight that this is a giant TOUCH GRASS RETARDS HOLY SHIT moment, but for the fact that Hasan occupies a hilariously stupid intersection of IRL to Internet thoughtspace: a terminally online retard agitating for real life changes. Asmongold wants his vidya to keep having big titty white girls and awesome dudes doing awesome stuff, and any IRL activism such as it exists is expeditionary raiding to push back invaders. Hasan wants to stream while talking about the necessity of the revolution, and never actually do anything in dirty meatspace where people can actually disagree with him. The digital world Hasan cocooned himself in is emblematic of leftist echo chamber circlejerking, but, unlike political podcasters that clone their IRL bubbles into online islands, Hasan operates in a visible manner that allows a surprising amount of bleedthrough not just from IRL falsifiability but also from adjacent digital cocoons like le epic redditor pupper protection brigades. He evades from all sides when he can, calling himself an online streamer irrelevant to real life influence but also a socialist whose voice must be raised as a totem for the youth to follow. Turns out animal abuse is something his slicked broccolihair can't deflect though.
2D3D
3d ago
Someone want to give the expected IRR hurdle for high usage low conversion platform aggregators? The optimistic discount rates given to investors at pitch rarely map onto actual as use statistics or patterns, and oftentimes the VCs are number crunchers looking at TAM conversions instead of understanding how ginned up stats are disguising other more usable metrics. Oftentimes platforms have to find a defensible USP to slather on top of the blitzscaling machine they've built and hope the narrative of the USP holds when the blitzscaling is creaking under fake incentives, and that just becomes a bagholder escape exercise.
Tumblr, Reddit, Twitter, Discord are famous examples of high use platforms unable to convert their userbases into monetizable assets without significant curation and often full on self destruction once the USP got exposed to scrutiny. A more quantifiable example of platform aggregation failure is the facebook pivot-to-video where autoplay vids got counted as full engagement and caused many platforms to both invest in video architecture as well as creation, when in reality no one was actually watching that much video (that came later on with tiktok and COVID doomscrolling cemented that operational modus). Facebooks shift to video specifically meant plenty of VCs were investing in esports specifically, which had to be written off in later years and which clearly showed changes in term sheets post 2020 after the charade was exposed.
Its also true that we are likely still in the overhang of ZIRP, with an irrational exuberance in market strength due to Trump and rapid capital shifting during this economic chaos. We still are in the window for a lagged interest rate stressor, and mortgages are peaking above 07 rates though that means nothing in this differentiated environment. In any case this ZIRP overhang still sees capital sloshing around looking for someplace, ANYPLACE to put money into to get alpha, and the demand for a story outweighs the demand for a technically sound assessment. No ones going to listen to the sysadmin saying the usage stats for AI wrapper chatbots don't make sense and will collapse when regex parsers are shown to be as useless as BPO outsourcing consultancies, VC Principals listen to the confident guy that promises he will change how humans work thanks to their Scarlett Johanssen sexvoice AI assistant reminding grandma to take her meds.
2D3D
5d ago
The hoped for outcome of 'money makes traps politically desirable' was, unfortunately, not achieved. The war against the machine must continue.
2D3D
6d ago
God I wonder how the AI would summarize the thread on campaign finance I derailed into a "traps arent gay" discussion.
2D3D
6d ago
The assumed presence of penis made my juvenile brain unable to activate the necessary response. The assumed presence of vagina after I discovered the truth made my juvenile brain unable to continue conversation without babbling like a fucking autist. The physical attractiveness wasn't the arousing variable (that she looked like a man meant she was pretty unattractive) the prolonged presence she was willing to have in my company was. Teenagers are fucktarded morons and that is why I don't consider teenagers people.
2D3D
8d ago
Meat is meat. Statement applicable to all groups involved in the above queries
2D3D
8d ago
Those girls would have latched onto something else were it not for trans as a means of coping with the difficulty of being a teenager. These girls would have been cutting and starving themselves if their first reference point was a Sandman or a 90s heroin chic comic in the library.
As much as the real world exists we do live in Modern Times where wordcel smartypants get to distort the presentation beyond our eyes. A teenage boy in Wyoming who can't put on muscle and hates herding will latch onto the trans agitprop from Desmond Is Amazing stans, while his father will choke down Tucker Carlson slop about Portland being a drug infested hellhole overrun by diseased immigrants. Wordcels dictate the terms when reality assertion isn't proximate but when the agitators enter real world suddenly their fancy words become just hot air if they can't match the reality they've been asserting.
2D3D
8d ago
Sailers law of female journalism taken one step further to societal engineering? I can accept that. Feminists wanting ugly women to be social currency to enhance their own position is logically consistent with pushing disgusting unwomen into the spotlight. Agreed re the right wingers highlighting every bad example that will exist regardless of the supply of submissive and breedable femboys, but frankly that's still the fault of the trannies for pushing rupaul rejects as their modal representation.
2D3D
8d ago
I mean the converse can be true? There was this dude I found totally cool and chill and when I discovered he was a girl I totally got the hots for her. Didn't do anything because I was a socially awkward dweeb and also raised not to be a creep but there is something primal about male female dynamics that does get activated when the knowledge is instantiated.
2D3D
8d ago
The rules are nice enough but also vague enough that I'm not sure I can go full 4chan rahowa or kiwifarm cowhunting without catching a ban. Not worth testing the limits just to see if I can eke out some giggles.
2D3D
8d ago
AI cant be maximally offensive. The turing test for a human is to see if it can say hard-r the n-word (I still dont know the rules here). No AI will use slurs, so we have some runway tondetermine truthiness
2D3D
8d ago
Anything that makes my dick hard is a woman. The failure of the modern trans movement is to have ugly failed men be the face of the movement instead of fuckable femboys. Get the trans movement to be astolfo crossplayers, and schedule an anime cosplay competition at the same time as the NRC. Republicans will be singing the tune of femboy superiority in no time.
2D3D
8d ago
Institutions that suck simply don't get traction. The Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft tried to be a badly disguised quasi-DSA progressive think tank that advocated for withdrawing support from Ukraine and supporting the Global South for Peace Initiatives globally, starting with unilateral US disarmanent to prove good faith, like it was Jeremy Corbyns wet dream. Unfortunately if your reporting sucks or doesnt gel with reality then it just gets rejected.
AIPAC oversuccess can, controversially by the standards of this board, be attributed to the uselessness of the antijew factions. No muslim MENA bloc can reliably effect any policy it purports to require US support on, nor can any socialist country actually deliver on their same stated goals. Survivorship bias makes jews look like dastardly manipulators when they are more likely just shitting the bed much less frequently than any other retard trying to play big boy lobbyist.
Patriarchy is elders the managung incompetent and emotive youngins and the greatest trick of women was to have men take the label when mothers are the ones who exert control over their daughters and other inferiors far more viciously than men do.
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