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asdasdasdasd 2d ago

Like I said, options. He moved there because it was an english speaking country in the same enough time zone and he thought it might be fun, which is something you can do when you aren't a brokie (someone that earns money by doing stuff instead of by already having money)

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asdasdasdasd 2d ago

I became a computer toucher so I would never again have to interact with a soft handed motherfucking chud who was convinced in his heart that "No! They're not soft! They're not! I need that king ranch to carry an individual half sheet of osb to my suburban house! You not being sufficiently deferential to my self image has made me scared that my hands might be a little soft, so now I'm going to be a bitch about it and YOU have to manage MY emotional regulation!"

Fuck 'em. No chinaman had the fucking gaul to fuck me on a first delivery and then get mad that I called for a refund, they just brazen it out like REAL men, which is it's own hell to be fair.

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asdasdasdasd 2d ago

But all the capitalists say farmer brown will simply spin up a multi-billion dollar beef industry; using the power of his mind and his bootstraps to roll back climate change 15 years and materialise another Idaho's worth of grazing land from the ether!

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asdasdasdasd 3d ago

Names, places, and items changed or obfuscated to protect the guilty.

I have recently been part of a pseudo startup effort to build something entirely out of Made in the USA, no really material. I knew it wasn't going to work because I've actually touched a real machine instead of a computer at least once in my life, but what the hell, I thought. I made sure I wouldn;'t have to do anything email related and we set off into the high You See!'s.

The Final product required several subassemblies, including sand we tortured until it could think, some injection molded fiber reinforced plastic, some Widgets, Some Gizmos, and some fairly precise metal stuff.

We begin! The US pcb supplier cost more than 10 times as much as the equivalent shenzhen house. They took the order (nothing special, an OTS bit you can get by the 40 foot container from china), made promises, delayed for a couple weeks before providing samples which failed to meet requirements, delayed for a couple weeks before providing samples which failed QA, delayed for a couple weeks until providing samples which were great, delayed for a couple months and then shipped the first tranche, which failed QA, then dipped.

We could not find someone who had the capacity to injection mold parts in the size needed, with the reinforcement needed, for love or money. Anyone who could was either locked in to military contracts for 110 years or had retired.

Alright, move on to the next step: We could get the gizmos made in the USA. They were of lower quality than foreign made, cost more, and had more lead time, but they were from a legacy manufacturer (remember this!) and hadn't changed in 500 years, you are paying for support and legacy at that point. Worth.

The gizmos were a problem, they were in the gap between generic and specific that is entirely occupied by eg. Vietnam or Taiwan. We would have had to have them individually C&C'd.

The precision metal likewise. Someone can get it made in the USA, but not us.

Final result? Everyone involved in this project has options. I was basically there for free to help out a friend who already had money, and so was everyone else. After 18 months of someone else dealing with american business, he eventually realized what I had: American industry is straight garbage at the mid level. The top dogs are fine, the small houses are great, but everyone in between is some flavor of hustler, scammer, incompetent, or never was.

You cannot make anything new in this country without starting from the top and building out 70% of your entire production chain that you could not make 1000 times easier somewhere else, period. This is an inarguable fact; dude who had the idea has moved to australia. You WILL be seeing this produce in the next 12-16 years, either his version or someone else who had the idea at the same time, but when you see it it will have been made in china.

To make this culture war-y: This is what comes of believing the bullshit chicago school econo-cultists and capitalists tell you about how the world works instead of trusting your lying eyes. The free market is great for communicating certain information, and historically has been the only way of sending the signals that it does send. Unfortunately, it as a dogshit way to coordinate a complicated series of production and logistics processes, and will always lose out to central planning.

All the suppliers that we worked with that were worth a damn were legacy companies that got their feet under them when the US was basically a war communist state. Everyone else was worthless. When you compare this to chinese/Vietnamese/Taiwanese manufacturers who compete within a limited sphere but are incentivised and coordinated by the state, or Japanese/Korean manufacturers who have a light touch from the state but internally centrally plan their output and relationships inside a larger conglomerate or even between large conglomerates, the output of the US is more expensive, slower, lower quality, and less reliable. This is true across all productive industries.

We have the lead in tech because it is the only remaining industry where everything happens under the same house; where at no step other than the final step do you need to touch the free market; which is the step that the free market is uniquely suited to. There is a reason that firms do not adopt free market principles for internal management, that Amazon is run as a totalitarian state and not an ancap association.

Unfortunately, I don't think we are getting out of the pit the ideological capitalists have dug and the boomers have jumped in to for another election cycle or two. The republicans would rather the country collapse like England than let the state manage anything at all, and the dead hand on the tiller of the Democratic party is pointed in the same direction; about 300 boomers need to retire or die or be convinced (good luck!) before they even have the capacity to think about course correcting.

All this to say: If you have a revolutionary idea for a product and you aren't already Elon Musk, don't fucking try. Do what bro did and move to Australia and work directly with productive systems that aren't ideologically forbidden from doing the thing that works.

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asdasdasdasd 5d ago

I of course favor One, but it is a hard sell.

Most men are too emotionally weak and bitchmade at the soul level to survive one other dude calling them a fag; imagine the difficulty if all of society is pushing down on you to be more manly.

I think that's the reason the dudes who decide to not lower their heads and take what they are given are so wildly out there as a rule; degenerate coded puppy play kink at pride Fuck You if you don't like it you can eat shit and die types, they are reacting against the immense pressure to do this set of masculine things or you are ...

Effeminate! what could be worse than that, you wouldn't want people to think you weren't a manly manly man, you should think about it all the time, you should neurotically worry about it all the time, you should punish other men for not aligning with the vague societal view of manliness, you should in fact die about it instead of acting one degree off the course society has set for you. Now go back to pretending to work at the mines or yer gay.

It's why I find the alpha male manly man types personally disgusting: Weakness is contemptible, and there is nothing that signals weakness more than letting the idea that people might tut tut at you dictate your entire fucking existence. Ford f250 in the marketing firm parking lot ass

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asdasdasdasd 5d ago

This whole post against fairness as a cardinal virtue is about how it's bad for things to be unfair.

See the bit about nature, red in tooth and claw, the ultimate copout Hobbes introduced into the world for people who enjoy the current structure to use against anyone who tries to change it.

See the bit about Tyrants trying to enforce fairness. This is another appeal to nature, to the idea that the current state of the world is preferable in some way because it is natural, and it would be what, bad? Unfair? To try to change it.

If the world was actually the way it these ideas said it was, nobody would be able to write this post about it. There would be no wringing of hands about tyrants forcing society at gunpoint to allow women the right to vote and own property, as if property and voting sprung for nature. You would instead be living in Rousseau's state of nature, a solitary wanderer in the woods.

All those appeals to the past, or the future, or nature, are also appeals to emotion specifically the feeling you get when someone switches something on you or cuts in line, appeals to the feeling you get when it kinda seems unfair.

You can't avoid it. Much like UNO came with your Xbox, fairness came packaged with your prefrontal cortex.

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asdasdasdasd 6d ago

TDS is made up, the real TDS is the prion conservatives caught when Rush limbaug's earthly remains drifted heavenwards from the incinerator as his soul fell straight to hell, that tells them people not liking someone who goes out of their way to be unlikable, people thinking an open fraudster and convicted felon might do more fraud and more felonies, thinking an open liar might tell lies, is some sort of social contagion that they are above.

You can't separate the fact that people hate the dude from the fact that he deserves to be hated. The due ran a fraudulent charity, and one of the things the fraud money bought was a self portrait! That is hallmark movie villain shit!

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asdasdasdasd 6d ago

It's the opposite for me. I've never heard anything convincing from a right con about anything idological, only "X is terrible!", followed by "X didn't happen, you got mad at a fiction." followed as the moon succeeds the sun by "Well the fact that I was so easily fooled shows that X is terrible, even though it didn't happen"

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asdasdasdasd 6d ago

It kinda hard to take "You are crying wolf!" seriously when said wolf has finished off half of the sheep and is starting to eye the shepard.

I mean, did he not start another retarded middle eastern war, another retarded trade war, put a retard in charge of HHS, blow the deficit into the stratosphere? On top of that, he's doing his level best to raise gas prices past peak biden, and beat bidens record on inflation.

Those are all real, undeniable facts. I don't think the "biased media" is sneaking out at night and changing the price at the gas station or launching bombing raids on Iran.

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asdasdasdasd 9d ago

It's almost as if we live in a system where the worth of the individual and their ability to support themselves and their family is entirely determined by capital accumulation relative to other people, which society has also decided that there should be as little redistribution of this capital as is politically possible EXCEPT to people that are already well outside child bearing age.

No amount of waving the bible or chastising is going to work when you are chastising fifty times harder for not staking that paper.

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asdasdasdasd 11d ago

Allow my to stake my flag: Any consenting a adult who smokes a cigaret in the privacy of their own home should be drawn, quartered, and displayed outside the public library like its 1300.

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asdasdasdasd 11d ago

Given how reducto-ed this argument is, here I present the opposite direction reducto:

(That whole exchange replicated here):

I agree. That's why every American should be issued a Minuteman III ICBM at birth. With it's reduced capacity magazine of a single 300ish kiloton warhead; it is a reasonable deterrent against someone wandering over your property line or getting too angry on the road.

Do you not like the idea of every US citizen being able to instantly vaporize 1 square kilometer anywhere on earth? They already have access to knives and heavy rocks and such, why should we care about the means of Death? Its the ends that we are passing judgment for, in this case the ends being every small town in america instantly being vitrified the first time some chud gets fighty in the parking lot of the shitiest of it's three bars.

The argument from general effect just doesn't work for arms control, because it comes packaged with the response "So you think I should be able to buy a Mk19 40mm grenade launcher with the 48 grenade belt and mount it on top of my corolla? No? So much for freedom!"

If the argument is "X amount of rando civilians getting ventilated is the cost of freedom, counting or not counting gang violence?", that is a respectable axiomatic stance that I might hold, given how I got that thang not on me but safely stored unloaded in a floor mount safe with a box of desiccant packets I've collected from various food bags over the years.

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asdasdasdasd 13d ago

The reasons are different though: The people who hate Trump hate Trump for doing the things he promised he would do; the people who hate the Dems hate the Dems for not hating Republicans enough. If gruesome newsome came out on stage shirtless smeared in mud and declared he would bite the pancreases out of every republican in congress before drop kicking a goat into a woodchipper, his approval would go UP.

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asdasdasdasd 13d ago

You right, observe the edit.

That said, I do think Trump and co. would be in prison right now in a functional system that didn't provide infinite deference to people once they accrued a certain amount of popularity or capital. If I took documents without the black band on them out of the building they were in I would not see daylight for a LONG time; if I then refused to cooperate with the feds I would 50/50 be fucking dead.

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asdasdasdasd 13d ago

Whenever it does come up, I often wonder how one would separate the useless, lazy, stupid jobs from the essential ones. When I was younger I held a similar view, but over time I realized that the single strongest predictor for whether I thought a job was bullshit or not was how little I knew about its actual day to day work.

By and large and also unfortunately: The bullshit is distributed throughout the system at different levels of concentration.

When I did Labor, my job (based on what I was compensated for) was about 20-30% bullshit; given that that was how much my paycheck reflected massaging the owners ego vs. actually doing stuff; but I did actually do stuff all day.

I've also had an office job that was more like 90% bullshit; I mainly read ebooks while pretending to do email bullshit, but there was an occasional critical task that needed me specifically. I could Have been in the office for 1 hour a day with room on both sides; but the owner needed me there for 8 hours in order for his dick to feel big.

There are probably jobs out there that are 99% bullshit, and 1% irreplicable and critical process knowledge that shuts the plant down for a week if the one guy who sits on a stool spitting sunflower seed hulls everywhere like a god damn savage leaves because he is the only one who knows what that sound means.

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asdasdasdasd 14d ago · Edited 13d ago

Fuck the GOP. They should be in prison or in a care home at this point; the Maggots especially. We need an entirely new conservative wing that at least gestures at interacting with reality instead of tilting at not even windmills; at this point they are fist-fighting imaginary bugbears.

It turns out you can't run a country based entirely on having a victim complex and a dream, even if you accidently hit on a real grievance like immigration, you need to at some point make contact with the world as it is instead of the world as it makes you feel good.

EDIT: I throw myself on the mercy of the crowd, ya'll caught some blowoff from a mothersday family gathering where all the libed out retired professionals and leftist current graduates were observing the traditional detente, but the foxnews-ite conservatives refused to take a hint to the point where they were exiled to the outer darkness (disinvited from memorial day, such that they might learn.)

I was hanging on by a thread, you don't understand the level of autistic restraint required to not go off on a motherfucker who doesn't know what the word 'litoral' means, but has lots of opinions about combat in that particular zone which she will just not shut the fuck up about. It was BAD guys, I'm not kidding, this is the worst it's been since 2020.

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asdasdasdasd 14d ago

That was me! I'm the evil guy!

I did that as soon as I saw trump was probably gonna win, and It did pretty good until I got out of it.

Other people must have had that idea though, it was too obvious to make real money.

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asdasdasdasd 15d ago

More investment talk as the thread dies: I posted earlier about some short term funny money gambling I did on the US administration stepping on their own balls before falling into a ditch re. the Middle east because every Republican gets at least 1, I present to you another such case:

I keep a fairly large amount of money in foreign currency not as an investment but just to have available to use out country should I need it. My euros (tourist fun bucks) have been doing well as Trump weakens the US economy in relation to the world but not that well, more of a medium well. My other currency I keep a decent chunk of from the old country has been blowing the fuck up. I have made almost 100% gains on this bitch just for having it, I am up more than $70000 just on the currency, I don't even know how much the property has gone up.

Nowm the culture war angle, which I didn't understand when I was a brokie (Read: had a job the contributed to society positively in any way): I can see why people with huge amounts of liquid capital would want someone like trump, even if he was obviously going to shit up the economy he is in charge of.

If you are wrong and he doesn't shit it up, geat! You make money normal style! If he shits it up just a little, great! The proles get hungry and lose their bargaining power! If he fucks it up a TON, great! You can take advantage of the motion to get opportunities you would never receive in a well functioning system!

And on top of all that, he promises you spoils; you can just ignore anti trust if you bow a scrape, you can count on a reduced tax burden and a less well off population that is easier to exploit, you can count on him not actually fucking with the immigration that you REALLY need to keep the wheels turning.

All this is predicated on the Democrats being Republican lite Regans with little rainbow flag tie pins; that they aren't going to storm back into office like TR and bust the shit out of you, but that seems like a safe bet. The party machine is so outrageously cucked they can't even be properly anti-war or anti-elite, even though both those positions are wildly popular in both bases.

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asdasdasdasd 15d ago

These things are psychologically hard-wired, not cultural. The only way to make a society where the women and men have symmetrical dynamics is social repression or genetic engineering.

This is something people of a certain ideological bent state as a thought terminating cliche as an equal and opposite to blank-slatism. It is not proven, because it is unprovable. It is an article of faith. In the past, wearing pants and having wage labor jobs were "psychologically hard-wired, not cultural. "

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't, but you can't make the statement and call it there.

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