dr_analog
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They don't have to find it funny, lots of insults aren't funny or entertaining. They just have to find it not defamatory. Like one important question is would people who watched actually believe this was a serious accusation as opposed to making fun of her as an insult, like just calling someone a slut or a whore as many angry people do to women?
Funny is not the operative part. They just have to get what he's trying to do. But it's more than just words though. There's 14 minutes of video of him trying to sexually humiliate her. My argument is further articulated here: https://www.themotte.org/post/3618/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/423167?context=8#context
Separately from that, what about this from my OP?
I'm pretty sure if I tried flirting with a barista, she shut me down, and I took revenge by hiring an actress that looked like her and then created a music video depicting her as being mega slutty and then myself having hate sex with her and her loving it and blasted it to millions of people I'd be found guilty of defamation. The jury is only okay with this because she was a cop involved in a bogus search of his house and not a barista.
I'm positive I'd be found liable if I did this to a barista. But because it's a cop you could squint and argue maybe she's subject to more scrutiny but... how? She's a public official that executed a search warrant on his home, okay. Talk about how retarded she looked in his house. Talk about how crooked she is for being part of a search warrant that was bogus. Talk about her record as a cop. What does 14 minutes of soft core shot in amateur porn style video about what a raging whore she is have to do with any of that?
Officer Lisa may have to deal with ridicule about her supposed love for cunnilingus, but I doubt anyone making those jokes seriously believes that she licked every pussy in town.
But Larry Flint didn't film an actor who looks like Jerry Falwell having sex with his mother in an out-house in a candid looking video. He just wrote a fake Campari ad in his own known-to-be-transgressive porn magazine claiming it was from Falwell.
Does the fact that it's video matter? I think so. Afroman repeatedly flips between footage of the real officer and an actress that looks like her. He puts himself into the scene and apologizes to her, and then shows himself and the officer (the actress) having sex and also going down on other actresses. The sex videos are all done in amateur style, further implying they're candid footage. Though the video has farcical elements, he's also clearly trying to confuse the fact that it's parody[1]
NSFW: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7wWQxSV8CK8?si=zzuL3IqUoaJGOIys&t=700s
Are we sure everyone picks up the satire?
Me, I just don't have a lot of sympathy for this. I could see some people coming away believing this. Are they reasonable people? I don't know, reasonable person is doing a lot of work I guess. To me it seems like you have to be fairly media literate to navigate this all.
Keep in mind there are people who believe grainy amateur "homemade" sex videos are really amateur sex videos of the couple alone in an unscripted intimate moment and can't quite understand that there's a third person moving the camera around to film them. I would like to believe this population is tiny but I'm not so optimistic.
- Which, you know, makes it more outrageous and hilarious but also might sucker more people.
dr_analog
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1d ago
because the judge was almost blatantly biased in favor of the plaintiffs
Was he blatantly biased? I would expect the judge to prohibit Afroman from releasing music videos about the plaintiffs while the case was ongoing but he declined to?
This song seems clearly defamatory to me. The video makes it even worse with an actress pretending to be the cop going down on a woman and then acting out having sex with Afroman.
I can only conclude the jury hated cops enough and got caught up enough in the bogusness of the search warrant that they let him slide.
Or... everyone is just media literate enough now to find all of this funny? Rural Ohio juror grandmas watching the three strippers laying on his counter with their legs up, then the video of her actress having sex with him? "Yep, seems like non-defamatory free speech".
I'm pretty sure if I tried flirting with a barista, she shut me down, and I took revenge by hiring an actress that looked like her and then created a music video depicting her as being mega slutty and then myself having hate sex with her and her loving it and blasted it to millions of people I'd be found guilty of defamation. The jury is only okay with this because she was a cop involved in a bogus search of his house and not a barista.
I would say it's because politics is by definition polarizing. If 70% of people agreed on something it isn't really a matter for the political sphere. Politics is for deciding on issues that may only barely have majority backing.
dr_analog
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3d ago
I don't think the outcome determines whether or not the action taken today means it's a mistake or not.
But I get the spirit of the question.
Went well: Iran has a revolution and re-establishes a stable constitutional monarchy.
Less well: becomes a bombed out basket case like Syria and can't really threaten anyone geopolitically and is only a drain on our adversaries if they want to help at all.
Bad: we get bored or lose our nerve and pull out and the Muslim theocrats re-affirm control and get nukes.
I'm in favor of this war with Iran.
I think #1-4 are great reasons. Additionally I would add setting the precedent that if you even think about using development of nuclear weapons as a bargaining chip we'll kick your ass.
Also it's generally good if we remind the world that we still have the will and ability to beat the absolute shit out of regimes that are annoying.
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3d ago
Makes sense.
Monitoring the color of your urine is a good way to outsource for most people.
I've spent a lot of time camping in the desert (re: festivals) and the common recommendation was to drink water until you piss clear. That's a good heuristic but my pee hadn't been particularly dark.
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3d ago
Yeah. No matter how much research I do on running and lifting I feel like I miss basics like this all of the time. I would feel like shit after a run without water but I guess I thought it was normal? Just pain that I need to push through? Ho hum.
It took me a very long time to get better at running economy during races, like not flaming out immediately in the first mile and a half during a 5k.
dr_analog
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3d ago
well, when you put it that way it sounds kind of stupid
I just never felt thirsty :/
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3d ago
16 miles
I had a 12oz glass of water with salt in the morning and brought 60oz with me.
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3d ago
I learned this week that I was waking up multiple times in the middle of the night with a scratchy throat and an increasingly worsening headache due to dehydration.
I almost never feel thirsty anymore but given my level of running and lifting I should be drinking about 100 ounces of water a day and I was coming nowhere near that. As a corollary, I did a long run on Saturday and made sure to drink water before and actively during and it was the first time I finished one without a headache.
Who knew? Not me!
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4d ago
Look, I think we can all agree that this open letter about nation-state disinformation is completely credible until 50 more intelligence experts sign it.
But more seriously, why can't this person just read too much 4chan?
One thing I've learned from a deep and long festival phase in my 30s was that there's a kind of underbelly to the sexual consent education and enlightened psychedelic crisis assistance. Festivals, you see, hate emergency/police attention. Many festivals are barely tolerated by their communities and every drug overdose death or reported rape reduces their chances of happening again. Especially if your festival is at all counter-cultureish, like embraces nudity or polyamory or drug use.
On the tin, consent education and psychedelic awareness are good!
It's good to teach people that "no" means "no", and that an absence of clear "fuck yes!" is more safely interpreted as "no" (dubbed "enthusiastic affirmative consent").
It's good to have medics that know how to treat people undergoing a psychedelic crisis by talking them through it, or giving them valium rather than sending them to an ER where they'll be strapped to their hospital bed and spend hours being terrified while square doctors treat them like they're having a toxicology emergency.
The flip side of consent education is the diffusion of responsibility. To some degree they try to teach women that they share responsibility for unwanted sexual encounters, and festival services people do try to change date rape from black/white to a continuum where it's considered a learning experience and the women are encouraged to learn and grow rather than call the police. The end result is some women feel social pressure not to report sex crimes against them. Quite a lot more than you'd expect from such a self-proclaimed feminist environment.
The situation with psychedelic aware counselling is mixed. Although it's good to not medicalize someone having a rough LSD trip, the festivals can go the other way towards encouraging psychedelic use, and treating it like a form of wimpiness if you can't handle your LSD. You probably have some undiagnosed psychological hangup if you're so scared of tripping, right? You're not trying to avoid doing the work, are you? Oh, you're wasting your DMT vape pen if you're not breaking through to the machine elf dimension so make sure to get a good proper hit. It's true fewer people end up being sent to the hospital for psychedelic crisis, but I do wonder how many more people are one shotted into burning their professional and personal lives down because they got pushed into experiencing the interconnectedness of all things a bit too vividly.
Indeed. Every time I read even a probable cause affidavit I'm both impressed by how clear they are--they're good writing--but also disheartened at how expensive they must be. This is a limited resource!
Not trying to argue that they're PhD level documents or anything, but I'm surprised that every salty ragged looking detective has to be able to write one at that level.
dr_analog
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6d ago
Israel did that and we allegedly told them to chill.
dr_analog
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8d ago
Trump just announced they destroyed all military targets on Kharg Island, so, presumably they'll conquer that?
Kharg Island, I have learned through situation monitoring, is the way Iran processes 90% or so if its oil for export.
I have no idea how sane this is. Maybe it'll be fine?
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10d ago
They already committed to killing him too, so, who cares what he thinks?
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14d ago
Her surgeon suggested a full six weeks before she can resume 100% of activities, though can function as an independent adult after 1-2.
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14d ago
They were on the big side but, like, almost okay after the first two kids. But the third kid sent them into the next dimension.
dr_analog
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14d ago
For some reason, they never were as keen on taking up that offer as I was extending it.
women, who understands them?
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14d ago
They shrank like, 10% after she stopped nursing. Still enormous.
dr_analog
top 1% of underdog fetishists
14d ago
One thing which might happen, which would be hilarious, is that OpenAI is slightly too early but Anthropic is just right. That is, AGI is going to take just slightly longer than expected and OpenAI implodes from overinvestment while Anthropic rides to the moon.
Okay, so, if you get pulled over by a female cop and written a ticket for a broken tail light and you feel this was unjust you get to hire an actress to play her and act out a 14 minute long amateur porn style sexual humiliation music video about her? Because she's an agent of the state and subject to more criticism? Including this kind of criticism?
It's true, in some of the videos he is indeed criticizing or mocking the officers in their official capacity. Like the fat officer in his house seemingly tempted by the lemon pound cake. Or for seizing $400 cash. But in Licc'em Lisa video he's just portraying her as a whore going around town licking clit and ultimately getting seduced and fucked by Afroman.
I reiterate that it feels the jury was so annoyed by the officers doing a bogus search and bringing claims over justified criticism that they just overlooked this really gross one that came later.
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